Alabama public television didn't air gay wedding in 'Arthur'

[San Lumen]

clearly they are uneducated if they arent going to show a episode of a show showing children something that is perfectly normal and showing it wont educate the people of Alabama

Teaching inner city schoolchildren doesn't improve their reading and math skills, should we just close down the public schools and leave them to their own devices?

Because that's what you sound like.

I said nothing of the the kind.

[The Two Jerseys]

Teaching inner city schoolchildren doesn't improve their reading and math skills, should we just close down the public schools and leave them to their own devices?

Because that's what you sound like.

I said nothing of the the kind.

The point.






Your head.

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Actually, I would like an answer on that, should we stop funding inner city public schools since children there don't want to learn?

[The Empire of Pretantia]

You did. Right in the post I quoted.

"If they are going to not show a children;s show then dont show Will And Grace on NBC."

To educate the people of Alabama.

Their cash flow is uninterrupted, allowing them to stay in business and continue to educate the people of Alabama.

clearly they are uneducated if they arent going to show a episode of a show showing children something that is perfectly normal and showing it wont educate the people of Alabama

Osama Bin Laden was educated; he wanted to make homosexuality a criminal act.
Just because you approve of homosexuality and gay marriage doesn't mean you're educated.

Teaching inner city schoolchildren doesn't improve their reading and math skills, should we just close down the public schools and leave them to their own devices?

Because that's what you sound like.

I said nothing of the the kind.

You didn't say it, but you did say something of the kind.

[Ors Might]

How so? If refusing to show x is censorship of x, then why isn’t refusing to show y censorship of y?

It's more like ommiting a part of a speech, as the content was created, sent out for viewing then denied in an area

Not seeing the difference here. The episode’s content was known, reviewed, and denied. It’s not like colleges don’t know the beliefs and general arguments of the people they invite and uninvite.

[Ors Might]

Will and Grace doesn’t fucking matter here. Neither does consistency. If there was a substantial risk of the APT losing funding if they showed a specific episode, why would they show that specific episode?

Yes it does. If they are going to not show a children;s show then dont show Will And Grace on NBC.

Then they lose funding. Let the people be ignorant and raise their children ignorant and lose APT and they can watch their propaganda television instead.

APT has no fucking control over NBC. You are talking nonsense.

San Lumen is arguing that we leave people ignorant because Alabama doesn’t like same sex marriage in their chikdrens cartoons. Wonderful.

[San Lumen]

Yes it does. If they are going to not show a children;s show then dont show Will And Grace on NBC.

Then they lose funding. Let the people be ignorant and raise their children ignorant and lose APT and they can watch their propaganda television instead.

APT has no fucking control over NBC. You are talking nonsense.

San Lumen is arguing that we leave people ignorant because Alabama doesn’t like same sex marriage in their chikdrens cartoons. Wonderful.

and how does not showing it change anything!!! it doesnt

[Ors Might]

APT has no fucking control over NBC. You are talking nonsense.

San Lumen is arguing that we leave people ignorant because Alabama doesn’t like same sex marriage in their chikdrens cartoons. Wonderful.

and how does not showing it change anything!!! it doesnt

I fucking agree but how the hell would APT getting their funding pulled change anything either? It’d only be to satisfy people like you.

[The Empire of Pretantia]

APT has no fucking control over NBC. You are talking nonsense.

San Lumen is arguing that we leave people ignorant because Alabama doesn’t like same sex marriage in their chikdrens cartoons. Wonderful.

and how does not showing it change anything!!! it doesnt

APT doesn't lose funding from contributors so it can continue educating Alabama children, so yes, it does change something.

[San Lumen]

and how does not showing it change anything!!! it doesnt

I fucking agree but how the hell would APT getting their funding pulled change anything either? It’d only be to satisfy people like you.

The people of Alabama would be getting what they voted for. APT should not pander to bigotry

[Ors Might]

I fucking agree but how the hell would APT getting their funding pulled change anything either? It’d only be to satisfy people like you.

The people of Alabama would be getting what they voted for. APT should not pander to bigotry

Nor should it pander to you. Does it suck that APT won’t be educating kids on homosexuality? Yeah. But it’d suck even more if it becomes unable to educate kids at all.

[San Lumen]

The people of Alabama would be getting what they voted for. APT should not pander to bigotry

Nor should it pander to you. Does it suck that APT won’t be educating kids on homosexuality? Yeah. But it’d suck even more if it becomes unable to educate kids at all.

The state is last in education. It doesnt seem to be doing much educating.

[Ors Might]

Nor should it pander to you. Does it suck that APT won’t be educating kids on homosexuality? Yeah. But it’d suck even more if it becomes unable to educate kids at all.

The state is last in education. It doesnt seem to be doing much educating.

So you want it to educate even less?

[Internationalist Bastard]

It's more like ommiting a part of a speech, as the content was created, sent out for viewing then denied in an area

Not seeing the difference here. The episode’s content was known, reviewed, and denied. It’s not like colleges don’t know the beliefs and general arguments of the people they invite and uninvite.

The content has already been created and then ommited. Not inviting someone to create new content is different from omitting existing content.
Bleeping curse words in a show is not the same as not inviting a speaker who frequently curses to speak live.

[Ors Might]

Not seeing the difference here. The episode’s content was known, reviewed, and denied. It’s not like colleges don’t know the beliefs and general arguments of the people they invite and uninvite.

The content has already been created and then ommited. Not inviting someone to create new content is different from omitting existing content.
Bleeping curse words in a show is not the same as not inviting a speaker who frequently curses to speak live.

If the speaker was invited and then uninvited because students raised a fuss, then the content that would have been present no longer is. But I think we’re drifting from what I was getting at. Choosing not to show something is different than actively trying to prevent it from being seen altogether.

[The Empire of Pretantia]

Nor should it pander to you. Does it suck that APT won’t be educating kids on homosexuality? Yeah. But it’d suck even more if it becomes unable to educate kids at all.

The state is last in education. It doesnt seem to be doing much educating.

The solution, obviously, is to cut any sort of education altogether. Smart idea Lumen, you'll get the Nobel Prize in Literature for this one. That'll fix Alabama's problems.

[The Two Jerseys]

Nor should it pander to you. Does it suck that APT won’t be educating kids on homosexuality? Yeah. But it’d suck even more if it becomes unable to educate kids at all.

The state is last in education. It doesnt seem to be doing much educating.

So we should shut down all the inner city schools because high school seniors are reading at a middle school level?

[San Lumen]

The state is last in education. It doesnt seem to be doing much educating.

The solution, obviously, is to cut any sort of education altogether. Smart idea Lumen, you'll get the Nobel Prize in Literature for this one. That'll fix Alabama's problems.

Never said that.

The state is last in education. It doesnt seem to be doing much educating.

So we should shut down all the inner city schools because high school seniors are reading at a middle school level?

didnt say that either, and your comment is also nonsense

[The Empire of Pretantia]

The solution, obviously, is to cut any sort of education altogether. Smart idea Lumen, you'll get the Nobel Prize in Literature for this one. That'll fix Alabama's problems.

Never said that.

You're sternly in the mindset that Alabama's education is worthless and not worth continuing.

[The Two Jerseys]

The solution, obviously, is to cut any sort of education altogether. Smart idea Lumen, you'll get the Nobel Prize in Literature for this one. That'll fix Alabama's problems.

Never said that.

So we should shut down all the inner city schools because high school seniors are reading at a middle school level?

didnt say that either, and your comment is also nonsense

What about a question mark do you not fucking understand?

[Ors Might]

The solution, obviously, is to cut any sort of education altogether. Smart idea Lumen, you'll get the Nobel Prize in Literature for this one. That'll fix Alabama's problems.

Never said that.

So we should shut down all the inner city schools because high school seniors are reading at a middle school level?

didnt say that either, and your comment is also nonsense

But you want to reduce the amount of education in Alabama because residents are ignorant. You said that the APT getting shut down would be Alabamans getting what they voted for. Own what you’ve said.

[San Lumen]

Never said that.

You're sternly in the mindset that Alabama's education is worthless and not worth continuing.

No I didn't. I have been saying APT should not pander to bigotry and homophobia and do the right thing. There is a magical thing called a remote.

[Internationalist Bastard]

The content has already been created and then ommited. Not inviting someone to create new content is different from omitting existing content.
Bleeping curse words in a show is not the same as not inviting a speaker who frequently curses to speak live.

If the speaker was invited and then uninvited because students raised a fuss, then the content that would have been present no longer is. But I think we’re drifting from what I was getting at. Choosing not to show something is different than actively trying to prevent it from being seen altogether.

I agree with this.
Hence my reaction that this is raw pettiness

[The Empire of Pretantia]

You're sternly in the mindset that Alabama's education is worthless and not worth continuing.

No I didn't. I have been saying APT should not pander to bigotry and homophobia and do the right thing. There is a magical thing called a remote.

You know the right thing would lead to defunding of the APT, so yes you are.

[Ors Might]

If the speaker was invited and then uninvited because students raised a fuss, then the content that would have been present no longer is. But I think we’re drifting from what I was getting at. Choosing not to show something is different than actively trying to prevent it from being seen altogether.

I agree with this.
Hence my reaction that this is raw pettiness

True. This isn’t strictly censorship but it is dumb. Understandable but still.

[San Lumen]

No I didn't. I have been saying APT should not pander to bigotry and homophobia and do the right thing. There is a magical thing called a remote.

You know the right thing would lead to defunding of the APT, so yes you are.

Sucks for Alabama then. Not showing a program isnt going to make them less ignorant.