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Postby Kowani » Tue May 21, 2019 7:00 pm

Akrisen wrote:If muslims can protest against LGBT whey cant christians?

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-48294017

For one thing that’s the UK, not America.
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Postby The Lone Alliance » Tue May 21, 2019 7:02 pm

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Proctopeo wrote:I mean, it's only public television. Better they don't air one episode than get fucked by angry parents.

The best way to cure cultural homophobia is through children.

Yeah whenever I ask right wingers why they do so many restrictive things about what they're children is allowed to see I usually get some spell about the "Liberal Agenda" brainwashing their kids. Thanks for confirming it for them.

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Akrisen wrote:If muslims can protest against LGBT whey cant christians?

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-48294017

For one thing that’s the UK, not America.

The article complaining about this is a BBC article.

So if anything this article is likely BBC doing "Whataboutism" in response.
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Postby Akrisen » Tue May 21, 2019 7:08 pm

Kowani wrote:
Akrisen wrote:If muslims can protest against LGBT whey cant christians?

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-48294017

For one thing that’s the UK, not America.


America is silent on the homophobia of muslims in the US though, like the muslim man who shot up a gay club years ago for example yet demonizes christians at every single opportunity.

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Postby Highever » Tue May 21, 2019 7:10 pm

Akrisen wrote:
Kowani wrote:For one thing that’s the UK, not America.


America is silent on the homophobia of muslims in the US though, like the muslim man who shot up a gay club years ago for example yet demonizes christians at every single opportunity.

You mean Pulse? That tragedy that made front page news everywhere?

As far as I know, he didnt specifically target Pulse in an anti-gay agenda either, it was about retaliation for American airstrikes. He didnt even know it was a gay nightclub and originally scouted several locations.
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Postby Akrisen » Tue May 21, 2019 7:21 pm

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Akrisen wrote:
America is silent on the homophobia of muslims in the US though, like the muslim man who shot up a gay club years ago for example yet demonizes christians at every single opportunity.

You mean Pulse? That tragedy that made front page news everywhere?

As far as I know, he didnt specifically target Pulse in an anti-gay agenda either, it was about retaliation for American airstrikes. He didnt even know it was a gay nightclub and originally scouted several locations.


Why must christians tolerate homosexuality while other religions in America dont? If one is truely a religious egalitarian then they wouldnt view one religion above the other.

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Postby San Lumen » Tue May 21, 2019 7:22 pm

Akrisen wrote:
Highever wrote:You mean Pulse? That tragedy that made front page news everywhere?

As far as I know, he didnt specifically target Pulse in an anti-gay agenda either, it was about retaliation for American airstrikes. He didnt even know it was a gay nightclub and originally scouted several locations.


Why must christians tolerate homosexuality while other religions in America dont? If one is truely a religious egalitarian then they wouldnt view one religion above the other.


Polls show a majority overall accepts it.
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Postby Nakena » Tue May 21, 2019 7:25 pm

Highever wrote:
Akrisen wrote:
America is silent on the homophobia of muslims in the US though, like the muslim man who shot up a gay club years ago for example yet demonizes christians at every single opportunity.

You mean Pulse? That tragedy that made front page news everywhere?

As far as I know, he didnt specifically target Pulse in an anti-gay agenda either, it was about retaliation for American airstrikes. He didnt even know it was a gay nightclub and originally scouted several locations.


He was there before a few times. More specifically he might have been a closeted, self-hating gay.

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Postby Highever » Tue May 21, 2019 7:25 pm

Akrisen wrote:
Highever wrote:You mean Pulse? That tragedy that made front page news everywhere?

As far as I know, he didnt specifically target Pulse in an anti-gay agenda either, it was about retaliation for American airstrikes. He didnt even know it was a gay nightclub and originally scouted several locations.


Why must christians tolerate homosexuality while other religions in America dont? If one is truely a religious egalitarian then they wouldnt view one religion above the other.

....did you not read any of that? Pulse had nothing to do with Islamic homophobia and it certainly wasnt swept under the rug.

And if someone decides to specifically target homosexuals for their orientation they are going to be charged with a hate crime regardless of religious affiliation so....what is your point?
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Postby Highever » Tue May 21, 2019 7:28 pm

Nakena wrote:
Highever wrote:You mean Pulse? That tragedy that made front page news everywhere?

As far as I know, he didnt specifically target Pulse in an anti-gay agenda either, it was about retaliation for American airstrikes. He didnt even know it was a gay nightclub and originally scouted several locations.


He was there before a few times. More specifically he might have been a closeted, self-hating gay.

Police found no corroborating evidence of the claims he had ever been to the club or used any gay hookup apps as claimed.
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Postby US-SSR » Tue May 21, 2019 7:45 pm

I'm sure former PBS supporters in Alabama and Arkansas will be able to find organizations to direct their donations to that won't knuckle under to homophobia. In case no one else said it they would've aired the episode where a rat married a baby marmoset tho, or Arthur married his sister.
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Postby Akrisen » Tue May 21, 2019 7:48 pm

Highever wrote:
Akrisen wrote:
Why must christians tolerate homosexuality while other religions in America dont? If one is truely a religious egalitarian then they wouldnt view one religion above the other.

....did you not read any of that? Pulse had nothing to do with Islamic homophobia and it certainly wasnt swept under the rug.

And if someone decides to specifically target homosexuals for their orientation they are going to be charged with a hate crime regardless of religious affiliation so....what is your point?


Then why werent muslims in the UK charged with hate crimes for blatant homophobia hmm? If a christian in the UK did the same thing they would have been charged.

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Postby Highever » Tue May 21, 2019 7:51 pm

Akrisen wrote:
Highever wrote:....did you not read any of that? Pulse had nothing to do with Islamic homophobia and it certainly wasnt swept under the rug.

And if someone decides to specifically target homosexuals for their orientation they are going to be charged with a hate crime regardless of religious affiliation so....what is your point?


Then why werent muslims in the UK charged with hate crimes for blatant homophobia hmm? If a christian in the UK did the same thing they would have been charged.

Source on events where muslims were not charged for hate crimes because of their religion but Christian's were due to their religion?
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Postby San Lumen » Tue May 21, 2019 7:52 pm

Akrisen wrote:
Highever wrote:....did you not read any of that? Pulse had nothing to do with Islamic homophobia and it certainly wasnt swept under the rug.

And if someone decides to specifically target homosexuals for their orientation they are going to be charged with a hate crime regardless of religious affiliation so....what is your point?


Then why werent muslims in the UK charged with hate crimes for blatant homophobia hmm? If a christian in the UK did the same thing they would have been charged.

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Postby Akrisen » Tue May 21, 2019 7:56 pm

Highever wrote:
Akrisen wrote:
Then why werent muslims in the UK charged with hate crimes for blatant homophobia hmm? If a christian in the UK did the same thing they would have been charged.

Source on events where muslims were not charged for hate crimes because of their religion but Christian's were due to their religion?


https://www.christianheadlines.com/blog ... y-sin.html

Meanwhile the UK allows this shit

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... ondon.html

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Postby Nakena » Tue May 21, 2019 7:58 pm

Akrisen wrote:
Highever wrote:Source on events where muslims were not charged for hate crimes because of their religion but Christian's were due to their religion?


https://www.christianheadlines.com/blog ... y-sin.html

Meanwhile the UK allows this shit

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... ondon.html


The absolute state of the UK, ca 2019.

Shows were their priorities are.
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Postby Kowani » Tue May 21, 2019 7:59 pm

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Kowani wrote:The best way to cure cultural homophobia is through children.

Yeah whenever I ask right wingers why they do so many restrictive things about what they're children is allowed to see I usually get some spell about the "Liberal Agenda" brainwashing their kids. Thanks for confirming it for them.

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Postby Highever » Tue May 21, 2019 8:09 pm

Akrisen wrote:
Highever wrote:Source on events where muslims were not charged for hate crimes because of their religion but Christian's were due to their religion?


https://www.christianheadlines.com/blog ... y-sin.html

Meanwhile the UK allows this shit

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... ondon.html

Your own source says that the comments apparently were taken out of context to be used to further a narrative by right wing groups. Apparently the lecture also included the same person saying that Islamic law cannot be applied in a country like the UK, and that the full sermon was talking about the punishments found in the Koran for homosexuality and not personally saying these things should be done.
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Postby Akrisen » Tue May 21, 2019 8:11 pm

Highever wrote:

Your own source says that the comments apparently were taken out of context to be used to further a narrative by right wing groups. Apparently the lecture also included the same person saying that Islamic law cannot be applied in a country like the UK, and that the full sermon was talking about the punishments found in the Koran for homosexuality and not personally saying these things should be done.


You cant be joking right? Muslims hate gay people even more than christians, see this is what I mean so eager to defend muslims when they do it but those filthy evil christian bigots they deserve to be forced into a viewpoint thats against their religion. How hypocritical how intolerant of the views of other people.
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Postby Highever » Tue May 21, 2019 8:19 pm

Akrisen wrote:
Highever wrote:Your own source says that the comments apparently were taken out of context to be used to further a narrative by right wing groups. Apparently the lecture also included the same person saying that Islamic law cannot be applied in a country like the UK, and that the full sermon was talking about the punishments found in the Koran for homosexuality and not personally saying these things should be done.


You cant be joking right? Muslims hate gay people even more than christians, see this is what I mean so eager to defend muslims when they do it but those filthy evil christian bigots they deserve to be forced into a viewpoint thats against their religion. How hypocritical how intolerant of the views of other people.

You providing your supposed evidence and I'm responding to it. It doesnt seem like it's a proven fact that this is what he said unlike what you are trying to say. God forbid I actually look at the facts before turning to a victim complex like some others.

And the source also says that there is alot of outcry for him to be removed from his position and even removed from the country for his alleged statements so...no matter what this source does absolutely nothing to forward your case.
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Postby Akrisen » Tue May 21, 2019 8:24 pm

Highever wrote:
Akrisen wrote:
You cant be joking right? Muslims hate gay people even more than christians, see this is what I mean so eager to defend muslims when they do it but those filthy evil christian bigots they deserve to be forced into a viewpoint thats against their religion. How hypocritical how intolerant of the views of other people.

You providing your supposed evidence and I'm responding to it. It doesnt seem like it's a proven fact that this is what he said unlike what you are trying to say. God forbid I actually look at the facts before turning to a victim complex like some others.

And the source also says that there is alot of outcry for him to be removed from his position and even removed from the country for his alleged statements so...no matter what this source does absolutely nothing to forward your case.



He wont be removed because hes a muslim meaning untouchable in the modern UK, but aside from that Im showing the hypocrisy of the "tolerant" left when it comes to different religion's views on homosexuality. While christians the white ones dont kill gays the ones in the Congo do, and muslims in the middle east kill homosexuals as well yet the left shows vicious hatred of tolerant white christians that allow homosexuality to happen in their nations. Showing gay marriage to kids makes them think its normal because kids dont know any better like muslim toddlers being brainwashed by imams being unable to think outside of an islamic worldview for a long time its indoctrination.
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Postby Highever » Tue May 21, 2019 8:35 pm

Akrisen wrote:
Highever wrote:You providing your supposed evidence and I'm responding to it. It doesnt seem like it's a proven fact that this is what he said unlike what you are trying to say. God forbid I actually look at the facts before turning to a victim complex like some others.

And the source also says that there is alot of outcry for him to be removed from his position and even removed from the country for his alleged statements so...no matter what this source does absolutely nothing to forward your case.



He wont be removed because hes a muslim meaning untouchable in the modern UK, but aside from that Im showing the hypocrisy of the "tolerant" left when it comes to different religion's views on homosexuality. While christians the white ones dont kill gays the ones in the Congo do, and muslims in the middle east kill homosexuals as well yet the left shows vicious hatred of tolerant white christians that allow homosexuality to happen in their nations. Showing gay marriage to kids makes them think its normal because kids dont know any better like muslim toddlers being brainwashed by imams being unable to think outside of an islamic worldview for a long time its indoctrination.

Forgive me if I'm not ready to convert to your complex after one ambiguous example that in fact shows that people are not ignoring his alleged statements because hes Muslim which is the entire opposite of your claim in the first place.

I'm pretty sure people are also not blatantly ignoring the plight of homosexuals in other places as you claim and there has been plenty said in denunciation of the gsy rights situation in the places you said. I'm sorry you see disagreement and disapproval of Christians in the west denouncing homosexuality as "vicious hatred". I also find your description of those Christian's that constantly denounce honosexuals and dont want them to have rights as "tolerant". Yes its very good that the vast majority dont go out and kill homosexuals like in other places. That does not somehow make those Christian's in the west who seek to bar gays from certain rights and throw shade their way tolerant just by comparison to what occurs elsewhere. This is of course not saying that all or even most Christian's act this way as that is not the case. Hell, there are plenty that even support LGBT rights.

There is outcry against the intolerance and persecution of homosexuals no matter who perpetrates it or where it occurs, despite what your victim complex makes you think.
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Postby Nakena » Tue May 21, 2019 9:14 pm

Kowani wrote:
Proctopeo wrote:I mean, it's only public television. Better they don't air one episode than get fucked by angry parents.

The best way to cure cultural homophobia is through children.


Remind me how I was exposed to gay culture in sweet teenager years. ^^
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Postby Myrensis » Tue May 21, 2019 10:13 pm

Akrisen wrote:
Highever wrote:You mean Pulse? That tragedy that made front page news everywhere?

As far as I know, he didnt specifically target Pulse in an anti-gay agenda either, it was about retaliation for American airstrikes. He didnt even know it was a gay nightclub and originally scouted several locations.


Why must christians tolerate homosexuality while other religions in America dont? If one is truely a religious egalitarian then they wouldnt view one religion above the other.


You're entirely free, just like the Muslims, to believe whatever backwards regressive shit you like. It's when you start trying to give those backward regressive beliefs the weight of law and codify harassment and discrimination against "sinners" that things go wrong. Muslims get less attention because they make up about 1% of the US population and are not now, nor in any foreseeable future outside of hysterical right-wing fever dreams, going to be in a position to enforce anything on anybody.

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