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Postby Napkizemlja » Tue May 21, 2019 3:40 pm

The Emerald Legion wrote:Eh. It was a useless rat.

Doesn't mean it's still not sad.
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Postby Novus America » Tue May 21, 2019 3:49 pm

Cekoviu wrote:It only gets worse from here.
What gets me is that we're making a big deal over this fairly inconsequential mammal, but few people seem to care about the wide-reaching implications of krill depopulation.


But killing them all in the name stopping ebul nuclear power is good cause reasons...

We have had the technology to address this but we attack the technology that could address the problem rather than the problem.
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Postby Walkerfort » Tue May 21, 2019 3:52 pm

it's time to panic


this is going to get worse and panic is the only immediate thing we can do
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Postby Salus Maior » Tue May 21, 2019 3:54 pm

Walkerfort wrote:it's time to panic


this is going to get worse and panic is the only immediate thing we can do


Feel free.

Meanwhile the adults can think rationally and not lose their minds over an animal that was dependent on a single tiny island.
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Postby The Two Jerseys » Tue May 21, 2019 6:13 pm

Rio Cana wrote:According to the following source, it was competition with other species and not flooding of the island due to climate change that caused the extinction of this rodent. The article says by the time the island was flooded that more then likely the rodents had already gone extinct.

Read - https://wattsupwiththat.com/2016/06/27/ ... te-change/

Photo of the island - https://4k4oijnpiu3l4c3h-zippykid.netdn ... bc_460.jpg

Another thing to consider: the things were probably so inbred that a genetic disorder could have wiped them all out without any external influence.
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Postby Torrocca » Tue May 21, 2019 8:28 pm

Salus Maior wrote:
Walkerfort wrote:it's time to panic


this is going to get worse and panic is the only immediate thing we can do


Feel free.

Meanwhile the adults can think rationally and not lose their minds over an animal that was dependent on a single tiny island.


Because, clearly, the rational solution to the impending doom of climate change is to dismiss its earliest victims as irrelevant to said impending doom. :roll:
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Postby Kowani » Tue May 21, 2019 8:30 pm

Salus Maior wrote:
Walkerfort wrote:it's time to panic


this is going to get worse and panic is the only immediate thing we can do


Feel free.

Meanwhile the adults can think rationally and not lose their minds over an animal that was dependent on a single tiny island.

Congratulations on missing the big picture.
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Postby Tornado Queendom » Tue May 21, 2019 8:31 pm

I'd personally ACCELERATE climate change, as then we can see an interesting scenario. Besides, it's not going to stop. Today, the leftists claim that Climate Change kills mammals. Tomorrow, they'll claim that it causes tornadoes (which I'm actually hoping for :twisted:).
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Postby Torrocca » Tue May 21, 2019 8:32 pm

Kowani wrote:
Salus Maior wrote:
Feel free.

Meanwhile the adults can think rationally and not lose their minds over an animal that was dependent on a single tiny island.

Congratulations on missing the big picture.


This species unwillingly became a bioindicator species against its will by being driven to extinction by climate change, but the rational thing to do is to say, "lol who cares? They lived on a tiny island lmao".
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Postby Kowani » Tue May 21, 2019 8:33 pm

Tornado Queendom wrote:I'd personally ACCELERATE climate change, as then we can see an interesting scenario. Besides, it's not going to stop. Today, the leftists claim that Climate Change kills mammals. Tomorrow, they'll claim that it causes tornadoes (which I'm actually hoping for :twisted:).

…Why would you want tornados?
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Postby Highever » Tue May 21, 2019 8:50 pm

Tornado Queendom wrote:I'd personally ACCELERATE climate change, as then we can see an interesting scenario. Besides, it's not going to stop. Today, the leftists claim that Climate Change kills mammals. Tomorrow, they'll claim that it causes tornadoes (which I'm actually hoping for :twisted:).

Pretty sure it's not just "the leftists" but you know, almost every single accredited scientist that is in climate and such related fields.
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Postby Jebslund » Tue May 21, 2019 8:50 pm

Good to see that even in the face of proof, the climate change deniers still seem intent on sticking their heads in the sand and rationalising it away as all natural. I really hope we don't need to get to the point of Idiocracy-level food shortages before we start stepping up and trying to reverse the change. Starting with that pollution-free power idea, if it's at all feasible.
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Postby The Lone Alliance » Tue May 21, 2019 8:56 pm

Salus Maior wrote:
Walkerfort wrote:it's time to panic


this is going to get worse and panic is the only immediate thing we can do


Feel free.

Meanwhile the adults can think rationally and not lose their minds over an animal that was dependent on a single tiny island.

An animal that could have been saved if conservationists had gotten off their butts sooner and acted back in early 2000, which is when the animal started going extinct.
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Postby Northwest Slobovia » Tue May 21, 2019 9:00 pm

Torrocca wrote:
Kowani wrote:Congratulations on missing the big picture.


This species unwillingly became a bioindicator species against its will by being driven to extinction by climate change,

Probably not, see another linked article upthread pointing out that the species may have gone missing long before the cay flooded. It may not even be extinct; even the OP's linked popular article admits as much.

Torrocca wrote:but the rational thing to do is to say, "lol who cares? They lived on a tiny island lmao".

Living things restricted to tiny ranges are very vulnerable to extinction, period. It's a good reason not to give a shit about it, regardless of concerns about global warming.

Do species ever willingly become bioindicators by going extinct? :P
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Tornado Queendom wrote:I'd personally ACCELERATE climate change, as then we can see an interesting scenario. Besides, it's not going to stop. Today, the leftists claim that Climate Change kills mammals. Tomorrow, they'll claim that it causes tornadoes (which I'm actually hoping for :twisted:).

Pretty sure it's not just "the leftists" but you know, almost every single accredited scientist that is in climate and such related fields.

In all seriousness, global warming ought to lead to more tornadoes, though I assume the poster is teasing.
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Postby Borovan entered the region as he » Tue May 21, 2019 9:05 pm

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Borovan entered the region as he wrote:Oh wow an animal went extinct because of "climate change" every time the weather gets 4 degrees higher people point fingers at this so called "climate change"

Do you have any idea how horribly disastrous a real 4 degree rise in global temperatures would be? We're not quite there yet, but it would be so much worse than the current issues. You obviously know nothing about climate change.

I don't mean global temperatures I mean the local weather in your area where you notice it's slightly hotter than usual
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Postby Highever » Tue May 21, 2019 9:08 pm

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Cekoviu wrote:Do you have any idea how horribly disastrous a real 4 degree rise in global temperatures would be? We're not quite there yet, but it would be so much worse than the current issues. You obviously know nothing about climate change.

I don't mean global temperatures I mean the local weather in your area where you notice it's slightly hotter than usual

So because people make what are often times sardonic remarks this means climate change is complete bullshit?
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Postby Risottia » Tue May 21, 2019 9:28 pm

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Tornado Queendom wrote:I'd personally ACCELERATE climate change, as then we can see an interesting scenario. Besides, it's not going to stop. Today, the leftists claim that Climate Change kills mammals. Tomorrow, they'll claim that it causes tornadoes (which I'm actually hoping for :twisted:).

Pretty sure it's not just "the leftists" but you know, almost every single accredited scientist that is in climate and such related fields.

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Postby Elletolis » Tue May 21, 2019 9:37 pm

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Postby Tornado Queendom » Tue May 21, 2019 9:38 pm

Kowani wrote:
Tornado Queendom wrote:I'd personally ACCELERATE climate change, as then we can see an interesting scenario. Besides, it's not going to stop. Today, the leftists claim that Climate Change kills mammals. Tomorrow, they'll claim that it causes tornadoes (which I'm actually hoping for :twisted:).

…Why would you want tornados?

Honestly, I have a thing for them. Just like I have a thing for the Central Powers of WWI, and I WISH the Central Powers won WWI so that I could make the Storm Girls come to life. In our world, we have Earthquakes and Terrorism. in a Central Powers victory world, Tornadoes/Hurricanes and Freedom would replace their respective entities.
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Highever wrote:
Tornado Queendom wrote:I'd personally ACCELERATE climate change, as then we can see an interesting scenario. Besides, it's not going to stop. Today, the leftists claim that Climate Change kills mammals. Tomorrow, they'll claim that it causes tornadoes (which I'm actually hoping for :twisted:).

Pretty sure it's not just "the leftists" but you know, almost every single accredited scientist that is in climate and such related fields.

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Postby Kowani » Tue May 21, 2019 9:39 pm

Tornado Queendom wrote:
Kowani wrote:…Why would you want tornados?

Honestly, I have a thing for them. Just like I have a thing for the Central Powers of WWI, and I WISH the Central Powers won WWI so that I could make the Storm Girls come to life. In our world, we have Earthquakes and Terrorism. in a Central Powers victory world, Tornadoes/Hurricanes and Freedom would replace their respective entities.

If they won, you likely wouldn’t exist.
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Postby Highever » Tue May 21, 2019 9:41 pm

Tornado Queendom wrote:
Highever wrote:Pretty sure it's not just "the leftists" but you know, almost every single accredited scientist that is in climate and such related fields.

Remember: Patrick Moore exists

Andrew Wakefield exists as well. And?
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Postby Tornado Queendom » Tue May 21, 2019 9:42 pm

Kowani wrote:
Tornado Queendom wrote:Honestly, I have a thing for them. Just like I have a thing for the Central Powers of WWI, and I WISH the Central Powers won WWI so that I could make the Storm Girls come to life. In our world, we have Earthquakes and Terrorism. in a Central Powers victory world, Tornadoes/Hurricanes and Freedom would replace their respective entities.

If they won, you likely wouldn’t exist.

I would probably be entirely different, and I can see my equivalent in that universe be an actual Storm Girl. Besides, Jihadism would never exist either. However, Storm Girls MIGHT exist in that alternate universe. That's why I wish the central powers won, so that even if I don't exist, there would still be something for if I DID exist: more Storms. Less quakes.
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