by Shrillland » Mon May 20, 2019 8:43 pm
by Nakena » Tue May 21, 2019 9:42 pm
by Blargoblarg » Tue May 21, 2019 9:46 pm
by Shrillland » Tue May 21, 2019 9:59 pm
Nakena wrote:I strongly support ÖVP or NEOs.
I hope Kurz remains in office and can get enough votes to form a new government, preferably without the FPÖ.
Vote of No Confidence might happen this week or next one, so elections could come sooner than expected.
by First American Empire » Tue May 21, 2019 11:50 pm
by Shrillland » Mon May 27, 2019 10:40 pm
by The Montana Enclave » Mon May 27, 2019 10:41 pm
by Nakena » Tue May 28, 2019 3:12 am
by Witchcraft and Sorcery » Tue May 28, 2019 3:36 am
by Shrillland » Tue May 28, 2019 3:39 am
Witchcraft and Sorcery wrote:Oof. There's a lot I could say to this. I don't really do NSG but I can't resist the chance to talk about Austria. For reference, I'm not Austrian myself, but I'm an American student who studies German and currently lives in Vienna. Needless to say I've been following German and Austrian politics with great interest around the Europawahl.
It somehow does not shock me that Heinz-Christian Strache, the leader of the party whose nationalist slogans like "Steh auf für unsere Heimat!" projected the imagery of a party that wouldn't sell out, was caught ready and willing to sell out to Russia.
I'm not surprised that Kurz got the boot. The Social Democrats have had it in for him for a long time. He burned so many bridges with them upon his ascent to chancellor, with the dissolution of the coalition, then changing the ÖVP color from black to turquoise, then making good on his campaign promises to work with the far right and now we've all seen how that turned out. He's also now burned his bridges with the FPÖ over the current scandal that will make it very difficult for him to assemble any kind of governing coalition going forward when and if if ÖVP becomes the largest party in September.
As far as the election goes, my preferred outcome is this: It's pretty much a foregone conclusion that ÖVP will remain the largest party. Disillusioned FPÖ voters are unlikely to vote red or green. But my hope is that they will be unable to assemble a coalition with Kurz as leader and the SPÖ can work something out with the resurgent Green party and maybe NEOS if necessary that will put the super-awesome Pamela Rendi-Wagner into the chancellor's residence. If I were voting, I'd vote green for sure, but this is my preferred outcome.
(As a side note, I find it very funny as a student of German that someone named "Kurz" now holds the record for shortest chancellorship. )
by North German Realm » Thu May 30, 2019 5:37 am
5 Nov, 2020
Die Morgenpost: "We will reconsider our relationship with Poland" Reichskanzler Lagenmauer says after Polish president protested North German ultimatum that made them restore reproductive freedom. | European Society votes not to persecute Hungary for atrocities committed against Serbs, "Giving a rogue state leave to commit genocide as it sees fit." North German delegate bemoans. | Negotiations still underway in Rome, delegates arguing over the extent of indemnities Turkey might be made to pay, lawful status of Turkish collaborators during occupation of Azerbaijan, Cyprus, Syria.
by Nakena » Thu May 30, 2019 7:11 am
North German Realm wrote:I uh, don't know which party to support, except that I probably wouldn't support FPÖ. That's... humiliating.
by North German Realm » Thu May 30, 2019 7:27 am
Nakena wrote:North German Realm wrote:I uh, don't know which party to support, except that I probably wouldn't support FPÖ. That's... humiliating.
FPÖ is bad. They're sucessors of people who caused considerable drama in the late Austria Hungary.
I personally tend to ÖVP, mostly because I think Kurz is the best guy Austria has to offer at the moment.
5 Nov, 2020
Die Morgenpost: "We will reconsider our relationship with Poland" Reichskanzler Lagenmauer says after Polish president protested North German ultimatum that made them restore reproductive freedom. | European Society votes not to persecute Hungary for atrocities committed against Serbs, "Giving a rogue state leave to commit genocide as it sees fit." North German delegate bemoans. | Negotiations still underway in Rome, delegates arguing over the extent of indemnities Turkey might be made to pay, lawful status of Turkish collaborators during occupation of Azerbaijan, Cyprus, Syria.
by Great Kauthar » Thu May 30, 2019 10:21 am
by North German Realm » Thu May 30, 2019 10:23 am
I myself am no fan of Kurz, I'll be honest, but he dealt with the situation with FPO pretty well, if we're being honest. He's not likely not to win again (Given how popular he is in Austria)Great Kauthar wrote:Totally and amazed and disgusted at how Kurz has been treated. The SPO working with the FPO to oust him because of Strache's corruption is ludicrous. Considering he has polled well above all the other candidates as preferred Chancellor, it seems useless to oust him just now. Oh well, it will be interesting to see the OVP return a solid result and work with the post-Strache FPO. Personally love Kurz.
If polling keeps up the way it is and there aren't any significant events, the OVP and NEOS will make gains. I suppose the Greens will too, but they'll just swap places with JETZT.
5 Nov, 2020
Die Morgenpost: "We will reconsider our relationship with Poland" Reichskanzler Lagenmauer says after Polish president protested North German ultimatum that made them restore reproductive freedom. | European Society votes not to persecute Hungary for atrocities committed against Serbs, "Giving a rogue state leave to commit genocide as it sees fit." North German delegate bemoans. | Negotiations still underway in Rome, delegates arguing over the extent of indemnities Turkey might be made to pay, lawful status of Turkish collaborators during occupation of Azerbaijan, Cyprus, Syria.
by Great Kauthar » Thu May 30, 2019 10:34 am
North German Realm wrote:I myself am no fan of Kurz, I'll be honest, but he dealt with the situation with FPO pretty well, if we're being honest. He's not likely not to win again (Given how popular he is in Austria)Great Kauthar wrote:Totally and amazed and disgusted at how Kurz has been treated. The SPO working with the FPO to oust him because of Strache's corruption is ludicrous. Considering he has polled well above all the other candidates as preferred Chancellor, it seems useless to oust him just now. Oh well, it will be interesting to see the OVP return a solid result and work with the post-Strache FPO. Personally love Kurz.
If polling keeps up the way it is and there aren't any significant events, the OVP and NEOS will make gains. I suppose the Greens will too, but they'll just swap places with JETZT.
by North German Realm » Thu May 30, 2019 10:40 am
Great Kauthar wrote:North German Realm wrote:I myself am no fan of Kurz, I'll be honest, but he dealt with the situation with FPO pretty well, if we're being honest. He's not likely not to win again (Given how popular he is in Austria)
How so? He'll be able to mobilise his base very efficiently following the purely political ousting of him, and he remains the most favourable candidate for chancellor. Just last month, 59% said he was their preferable chancellor
5 Nov, 2020
Die Morgenpost: "We will reconsider our relationship with Poland" Reichskanzler Lagenmauer says after Polish president protested North German ultimatum that made them restore reproductive freedom. | European Society votes not to persecute Hungary for atrocities committed against Serbs, "Giving a rogue state leave to commit genocide as it sees fit." North German delegate bemoans. | Negotiations still underway in Rome, delegates arguing over the extent of indemnities Turkey might be made to pay, lawful status of Turkish collaborators during occupation of Azerbaijan, Cyprus, Syria.
by Shrillland » Thu May 30, 2019 12:08 pm
North German Realm wrote:Great Kauthar wrote:How so? He'll be able to mobilise his base very efficiently following the purely political ousting of him, and he remains the most favourable candidate for chancellor. Just last month, 59% said he was their preferable chancellor
"He's not likely not to win again". I agreed that he will probably become Chancellor again. Probably in coalition with a less insane party, anyway.
by Great Kauthar » Thu May 30, 2019 12:23 pm
by Shrillland » Thu May 30, 2019 12:31 pm
by Trumpisslavia » Thu May 30, 2019 10:22 pm
-Ocelot- wrote:Greens. Make the european green wave bigger.
Left or right, the Austrian vote should never go to Russian puppets again.
by Major-Tom » Thu May 30, 2019 10:27 pm
First American Empire wrote:I hope NEOS does well. Eurofederalists are always good, though I'd prefer they be more left-wing economically.
by Kowani » Sat Jun 01, 2019 5:20 pm
by Shrillland » Fri Jun 14, 2019 7:52 pm
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