Fun fact: The amount of Iranians who found religion important in their lives climbed from 76% (2006) to 86% (2016). So no, it's certainly not losing traction, nor is it 'the source of all problems'.
Novus America wrote:Vetalia wrote:
They might not be happy with the current Iranian government, but they sure as hell hate the US a lot more as every single problem they have faced is a direct result of this country sticking its nose in their affairs...and on top of that nothing unites people more than being invaded by a hated foreign power. Invading Iran would produce a backlash easily comparable to the Germans invading the USSR in 1941; the US would be invading a mostly landlocked, heavily mountainous country with no nearby allies to provide logistical support and direct connection to Russia via the Caspian Sea.
Look what happened when Saddam tried to invade Iran back in the 1980s, he commanded an army vastly superior in arms, training and equipment and a much stronger economy (and not to mention used chemical weapons) vs. a country reeling from the aftermath of its revolution and still couldn't beat them. Today, Iran has a population nearly 40 million higher than back then and a much larger economy than it did back then, along with a modernized, loyal armed forces.
This would be an utter bloodbath costing trillions of dollars and potentially hundreds of thousands of lives, which would achieve absolutely *nothing* other than to weaken the US, possibly irreparably.
You can beat a country without invading though.
Depends, what is the goal? Bombing it down to the ground? Sure, possible without invading it. Regime change? Not going to happen without invading it. Crippling its military and nuclear abilities? Not going to happen without invading it.
So unless you want a pointless war, you'll have to invade it.
Aureumterra wrote:Vetalia wrote:
They might not be happy with the current Iranian government, but they sure as hell hate the US a lot more as every single problem they have faced is a direct result of this country sticking its nose in their affairs...and on top of that nothing unites people more than being invaded by a hated foreign power. Invading Iran would produce a backlash easily comparable to the Germans invading the USSR in 1941; the US would be invading a mostly landlocked, heavily mountainous country with no nearby allies to provide logistical support and direct connection to Russia via the Caspian Sea.
Look what happened when Saddam tried to invade Iran back in the 1980s, he commanded an army vastly superior in arms, training and equipment and a much stronger economy (and not to mention used chemical weapons) vs. a country reeling from the aftermath of its revolution and still couldn't beat them. Today, Iran has a population nearly 40 million higher than back then and a much larger economy than it did back then, along with a modernized, loyal armed forces.
This would be an utter bloodbath costing trillions of dollars and potentially hundreds of thousands of lives, which would achieve absolutely *nothing* other than to weaken the US, possibly irreparably.
The Iranain people want to get rid of the current government asap
No they don't.
Novus America wrote:Sidesh0w B0b wrote:
What? Like cancel the olympics? Put a marine barracks in Lebanon? Maybe arm Al Qaeda? OTOH there's North Vietnam which was invaded and bombed, proving invading a 4th rate power isn't always a win either. .
Actually I am hoping this thread will shrivel up and die bc nothing more will happen on this topic. *prays*
By destroying their government and military. We beat the Libyan regime without invading.
But yes, probably nothing comes of it anyways.
You beat the Libyan regime? Last time i checked it were the Lybian people who did all the hard work, and i'm sure you won't get that help from the Iranian people.