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PostPosted: Sun May 19, 2019 4:50 pm
by Communal concils
Torrocca wrote:
Pasong Tirad wrote:This image isn't even from Rojava - nor is it about Rojava Kurds. It's from a protest in France by Turkish Kurds demanding the release of Abdullah Ă–calan. Do better, OP.


But they're not following OP's brand of Marxism-Leninism-Maoism-Stalinism-Hoxhaism-Anti-LGBTQ+ism-Whateverism, so that's clearly a bad thing!



I did it to show that rojava is beloved by some westerners. Nothing more, nothingness.

Also, Your joke is not true. Clearly a foolish attempt of anarchist comedy, which is very childish . I identify as a Democratic socialist, that is because I believe that socialism is best achieve through a ballot.

PostPosted: Sun May 19, 2019 4:51 pm
by Torrocca
Communal concils wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
But they're not following OP's brand of Marxism-Leninism-Maoism-Stalinism-Hoxhaism-Anti-LGBTQ+ism-Whateverism, so that's clearly a bad thing!



I did it to show that rojava is beloved by some westerners. Nothing more, nothingness.

Also, Your joke is not true. Clearly a foolish attempt of anarchist comedy, which is very childish . I identify as a Democratic socialist, that is because I believe that socialism is best achieve through a ballot.


>Self-identifies as a "democratic-socialist"
>Has absolutely no issue whatsoever in using hyper-authoritarian means to suppress minorities like the LGBTQ+ community

Do you have any other jokes you could tell us, OP?

PostPosted: Sun May 19, 2019 4:52 pm
by Heloin
Communal concils wrote:
Pasong Tirad wrote:This. Rojava beat the shit out of ISIS and will oppose to the death the Sultan in Ankara. That alone, in my view, has earned Rojava its right to statehood or, at the very least, a greater level of autonomy from Assad, which will be possible if the much-discussed federalization of Syria continues.



Well, I would support the very ideal of federalization. Though, the kurds should not depend on the US. They might be able to come to a conclusion with Assad.

We just have to see until Idlib is retaken, and hopefully Rojava might reject Neocon imperialism. Though, I wouldn't be angry if unification was achieve with military conquest.

So the Kurds and Rojava should tell the States to fuck off, then without the most powerful country supporting them gamble their future with Assad who only kinda tolerates them right now, and is backed by Russia? Clearly this is a smart and sensible decision to make.

PostPosted: Sun May 19, 2019 4:52 pm
by Highever
Communal concils wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
But they're not following OP's brand of Marxism-Leninism-Maoism-Stalinism-Hoxhaism-Anti-LGBTQ+ism-Whateverism, so that's clearly a bad thing!



I did it to show that rojava is beloved by some westerners. Nothing more, nothingness.

Also, Your joke is not true. Clearly a foolish attempt of anarchist comedy, which is very childish . I identify as a Democratic socialist, that is because I believe that socialism is best achieve through a ballot.

Back to trying to pretend you care about democracy and peoples free will I see.

PostPosted: Sun May 19, 2019 4:53 pm
by Communal concils
Pasong Tirad wrote:
Communal concils wrote:

I know . That was to show that Rojava does have popularity in the west.

...how? How is it supposed "to show that Rojava is popular in the West" when it isn't even about Rojava?



Abdullah Ocalan is a inspiration of the YPG and Rojava, and they are using symbols of rojava. I am honestly showing that there are leftist that support the country.

PostPosted: Sun May 19, 2019 4:55 pm
by Highever
Communal concils wrote:
Pasong Tirad wrote:...how? How is it supposed "to show that Rojava is popular in the West" when it isn't even about Rojava?



Abdullah Ocalan is a inspiration of the YPG and Rojava, and they are using symbols of rojava. I am honestly showing that there are leftist that support the country.

Yes and there are non leftists that do as well. What us your point?

PostPosted: Sun May 19, 2019 4:55 pm
by Heloin
Highever wrote:
Communal concils wrote:

I did it to show that rojava is beloved by some westerners. Nothing more, nothingness.

Also, Your joke is not true. Clearly a foolish attempt of anarchist comedy, which is very childish . I identify as a Democratic socialist, that is because I believe that socialism is best achieve through a ballot.

Back to trying to pretend you care about democracy and peoples free will I see.

Democracy and free will matter, so long as they fall perfectly in line with what Communal believes.

PostPosted: Sun May 19, 2019 4:55 pm
by Communal concils
Torrocca wrote:
Communal concils wrote:

I did it to show that rojava is beloved by some westerners. Nothing more, nothingness.

Also, Your joke is not true. Clearly a foolish attempt of anarchist comedy, which is very childish . I identify as a Democratic socialist, that is because I believe that socialism is best achieve through a ballot.


>Self-identifies as a "democratic-socialist"
>Has absolutely no issue whatsoever in using hyper-authoritarian means to suppress minorities like the LGBTQ+ community

Do you have any other jokes you could tell us, OP?



I didn't support suppressing minorities, stop making up false claims.also, a democracy is a democracy as long as it gives it's citizens a choice through voting. I support people voting their leader, and I believe in more than one candidate.

PostPosted: Sun May 19, 2019 4:56 pm
by Communal concils
Heloin wrote:
Highever wrote:Back to trying to pretend you care about democracy and peoples free will I see.

Democracy and free will matter, so long as they fall perfectly in line with what Communal believes.



nearly everyone thinks that, including libertarian leftist.

PostPosted: Sun May 19, 2019 4:57 pm
by Communal concils
Highever wrote:
Communal concils wrote:

I did it to show that rojava is beloved by some westerners. Nothing more, nothingness.

Also, Your joke is not true. Clearly a foolish attempt of anarchist comedy, which is very childish . I identify as a Democratic socialist, that is because I believe that socialism is best achieve through a ballot.

Back to trying to pretend you care about democracy and peoples free will I see.



I am not pretending. I have a illiberal view of it, that's all.

PostPosted: Sun May 19, 2019 5:01 pm
by Highever
Communal concils wrote:
Heloin wrote:Democracy and free will matter, so long as they fall perfectly in line with what Communal believes.



nearly everyone thinks that, including libertarian leftist.

Except no. Considering I dont think people who think different or act different than what I want or do should be persecuted. Unlike some.

PostPosted: Sun May 19, 2019 5:03 pm
by Torrocca
Communal concils wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
>Self-identifies as a "democratic-socialist"
>Has absolutely no issue whatsoever in using hyper-authoritarian means to suppress minorities like the LGBTQ+ community

Do you have any other jokes you could tell us, OP?



I didn't support suppressing minorities, stop making up false claims.


So this statement's a fucking lie:

"people aren't allowed to have Non-reproductive sex."

Unless you want to explain to us how suppressing LGBTQ+ rights isn't actually suppressing minorities, of course.

PostPosted: Sun May 19, 2019 5:04 pm
by Highever
Torrocca wrote:
Communal concils wrote:

I didn't support suppressing minorities, stop making up false claims.


So this statement's a fucking lie:

"people aren't allowed to have Non-reproductive sex."

Unless you want to explain to us how suppressing LGBTQ+ rights isn't actually suppressing minorities, of course.

Oh god I really dont want to get sucked into that tripe again....

PostPosted: Sun May 19, 2019 5:12 pm
by Communal concils
Torrocca wrote:
Communal concils wrote:

I didn't support suppressing minorities, stop making up false claims.


So this statement's a fucking lie:

"people aren't allowed to have Non-reproductive sex."

Unless you want to explain to us how suppressing LGBTQ+ rights isn't actually suppressing minorities, of course.



stop diverging the thread from the main topic. Your strategy will not work

PostPosted: Sun May 19, 2019 5:13 pm
by Communal concils
Highever wrote:
Communal concils wrote:

nearly everyone thinks that, including libertarian leftist.

Except no. Considering I dont think people who think different or act different than what I want or do should be persecuted. Unlike some.



That is just your claim. doesn't mean it's true.

PostPosted: Sun May 19, 2019 5:14 pm
by Heloin
Communal concils wrote:
Highever wrote:Except no. Considering I dont think people who think different or act different than what I want or do should be persecuted. Unlike some.



That is just your claim. doesn't mean it's true.

And that somehow makes your claim true?

PostPosted: Sun May 19, 2019 5:17 pm
by Communal concils
Highever wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
So this statement's a fucking lie:

"people aren't allowed to have Non-reproductive sex."

Unless you want to explain to us how suppressing LGBTQ+ rights isn't actually suppressing minorities, of course.

Oh god I really dont want to get sucked into that tripe again....



Torrocca is depending on red herrings. I don't like this attempt of elitism.

PostPosted: Sun May 19, 2019 5:18 pm
by Communal concils
Heloin wrote:
Communal concils wrote:

That is just your claim. doesn't mean it's true.

And that somehow makes your claim true?



what if your claim isn't true.

PostPosted: Sun May 19, 2019 5:19 pm
by Heloin
Communal concils wrote:
Heloin wrote:And that somehow makes your claim true?



what if your claim isn't true.

You're argument is seriously "no u".

PostPosted: Sun May 19, 2019 5:21 pm
by Highever
Communal concils wrote:
Highever wrote:Oh god I really dont want to get sucked into that tripe again....



Torrocca is depending on red herrings. I don't like this attempt of elitism.

Its not a red herring. You made the claim you dont advocate oppression and support freedom and he is using your own statements to prove that is completely false.

You're also the last person that can grandstand about elitism. I don't even know how this qualifies as elitist.

PostPosted: Sun May 19, 2019 5:22 pm
by Highever
Communal concils wrote:
Highever wrote:Except no. Considering I dont think people who think different or act different than what I want or do should be persecuted. Unlike some.


That is just your claim. doesn't mean it's true.

No im....pretty sure I know how I feel and what my sentiments are.

PostPosted: Sun May 19, 2019 5:22 pm
by Torrocca
Communal concils wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
So this statement's a fucking lie:

"people aren't allowed to have Non-reproductive sex."

Unless you want to explain to us how suppressing LGBTQ+ rights isn't actually suppressing minorities, of course.



stop diverging the thread from the main topic. Your strategy will not work


You're the one who claimed you don't support suppressing minorities, chief. I'm just making sure everyone knows who the liar here is. :3

Highever wrote:
Communal concils wrote:

Torrocca is depending on red herrings. I don't like this attempt of elitism.

Its not a red herring. You made the claim you dont advocate oppression and support freedom and she* is using your own statements to prove that is completely false.

You're also the last person that can grandstand about elitism. I don't even know how this qualifies as elitist.


FTFY, by the way. :3

PostPosted: Sun May 19, 2019 5:22 pm
by Communal concils
Heloin wrote:
Communal concils wrote:

what if your claim isn't true.

You're argument is seriously "no u".



Now we are using memes. Has the conversation devolve to such a state in which this is the best response?

Here's the question, the question about anti-realism, what if your claim isn't true?

PostPosted: Sun May 19, 2019 5:23 pm
by Communal concils
Highever wrote:
Communal concils wrote:
That is just your claim. doesn't mean it's true.

No im....pretty sure I know how I feel and what my sentiments are.



Sure, and I as well believe in my sentiments.

PostPosted: Sun May 19, 2019 5:30 pm
by Communal concils
Torrocca wrote:
Communal concils wrote:

stop diverging the thread from the main topic. Your strategy will not work


You're the one who claimed you don't support suppressing minorities, chief. I'm just making sure everyone knows who the liar here is. :3

Highever wrote:Its not a red herring. You made the claim you dont advocate oppression and support freedom and she* is using your own statements to prove that is completely false.

You're also the last person that can grandstand about elitism. I don't even know how this qualifies as elitist.


FTFY, by the way. :3



1. Still diverging the topic. I thought we were talking about rojava. as for your non-sense, I have not declared hatred for minority groups. Stop making up things about me.

2. You have to explain better.