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Postby Ifreann » Sat May 18, 2019 8:49 am

Novus America wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Why would the far left need Russian support when they're getting all those sweet Soros shekels?


Because they will take any support they can get.
Also the Soros shekels thing is hilarious because Soros dislikes Israel and Israel returns the favor

But alliteration. Sort of.
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Postby Novus America » Sat May 18, 2019 9:01 am

Ifreann wrote:
Novus America wrote:
Because they will take any support they can get.
Also the Soros shekels thing is hilarious because Soros dislikes Israel and Israel returns the favor

But alliteration. Sort of.


Well it is also a common Far Right conspiracy theory.
That Soros and Israel work together.
The whole “Israel pushes open borders abroad while not allowing them at home”.
The problem is of course the assumption Israel and Soros work together, (cause ebul Jews) when of course they actually are opposed to each other.

Also Soros is not funding the tankie far left as far as I know.
He actually funds the more center left.

It is almost like Jews, the left, the right are not some ebul united hive mind, but consist of disparate often opposed groups with often mutually exclusive and conflicting beliefs and policies.
And that no one one group or specific policies actually applies to all members of such diverse groups. :o
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Postby Communist Zombie Horde » Sat May 18, 2019 9:14 am

Liriena wrote:
Communist Zombie Horde wrote:Is everyone Hitler now?

E V E R Y O N E :3

The far right does not equal Hitlerites and Mussolinites.
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Postby Nakena » Sat May 18, 2019 9:17 am

Neu Leonstein wrote: Horribly unfair setup?


Ask your Bohmerman friend, who "mysteriously" knew in advance about this.

Besides, Strache was obviously not smart enough to be Vice Chancellor, to fall for this bullshit and talk himself into oblivion.

So nothing of value got lost.
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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Sat May 18, 2019 9:23 am

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Liriena wrote:E V E R Y O N E :3

The far right does not equal Hitlerites and Mussolinites.


It does however have quite a lot of neo nazis and fascists in there. A majority even.

Some parts of the Alt right get so radicalized by echo chambers that they get violent or even kill innocent people.
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European liquidation sale!
Everything must go!
All buyers welcome, no questions asked!

And people wonder why the population is angry... :roll:
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Postby Communist Zombie Horde » Sat May 18, 2019 9:27 am

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Communist Zombie Horde wrote:The far right does not equal Hitlerites and Mussolinites.


It does however have quite a lot of neo nazis and fascists in there. A majority even.

Some parts of the Alt right get so radicalized by echo chambers that they get violent or even kill innocent people.

At least have of the far right isn’t fascist. They are more like Trumpist patriots.
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Postby Nakena » Sat May 18, 2019 9:32 am

Novus America wrote:


For sale, the EU.
All buyers welcome, no questions asked.


This policy predates the rise of the populists.

Communist Zombie Horde wrote:
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
It does however have quite a lot of neo nazis and fascists in there. A majority even.

Some parts of the Alt right get so radicalized by echo chambers that they get violent or even kill innocent people.

At least have of the far right isn’t fascist. They are more like Trumpist patriots.


Turning point America isnt even far right. It's a stoge of the GOP.
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Postby Novus America » Sat May 18, 2019 9:39 am

Nakena wrote:
Novus America wrote:
For sale, the EU.
All buyers welcome, no questions asked.


This policy predates the rise of the populists.

Communist Zombie Horde wrote:At least have of the far right isn’t fascist. They are more like Trumpist patriots.


Turning point America isnt even far right. It's a stoge of the GOP.


Exactly. The sale of Europe to multinationals and hostile foreign regimes, predates and in fact helped cause the rise of the populists.
The mainstream parties are just as guilty.

But there is still irony in populists rightly criticizing the asset stripping of Europe are willing to take a piece of the action.
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Postby Pim Fortuyn » Sat May 18, 2019 9:40 am

Risottia wrote:European xenophobe and self-proclaimed sovereignist is actually an agent of antiEuropean foreign powers.

Colour me surprised.

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Postby Nakena » Sat May 18, 2019 9:52 am

Novus America wrote:
Nakena wrote:
This policy predates the rise of the populists.



Turning point America isnt even far right. It's a stoge of the GOP.


Exactly. The sale of Europe to multinationals and hostile foreign regimes, predates and in fact helped cause the rise of the populists.
The mainstream parties are just as guilty.

But there is still irony in populists rightly criticizing the asset stripping of Europe are willing to take a piece of the action.


They are Putin worshippers, and believe he will come ride in on a white horse like Czar Alexander I. and liberate Europe or some garbage like this.
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Postby Ifreann » Sat May 18, 2019 10:08 am

Novus America wrote:
Ifreann wrote:But alliteration. Sort of.


Well it is also a common Far Right conspiracy theory.
That Soros and Israel work together.
The whole “Israel pushes open borders abroad while not allowing them at home”.
The problem is of course the assumption Israel and Soros work together, (cause ebul Jews) when of course they actually are opposed to each other.

Also Soros is not funding the tankie far left as far as I know.
He actually funds the more center left.

It is almost like Jews, the left, the right are not some ebul united hive mind, but consist of disparate often opposed groups with often mutually exclusive and conflicting beliefs and policies.
And that no one one group or specific policies actually applies to all members of such diverse groups. :o

Or maybe that's what the communists want you to think.
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Postby Phoenicaea » Sat May 18, 2019 10:15 am

it seems that what in italy is a vaunt, place where i live so i cite this while could also be other places, is still a scandal in other countries.

nevertheless it shows human degradation in politics (mafia attitude, familism) is spreading. the italian plague, pasted in absence of rule of law, dignity, climbs the well, floods.

the familist parties, corrupt tycoon parties, so called nationalists, are the flood outside.

it seems developed countries have to begin to suffer the same illnesses that have affected the uncivilized. this shows as this is not wrote in ethnicicy, it is wrote in education.
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Postby Farnhamia » Sat May 18, 2019 10:19 am

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Because you are a lying leftist.

Why is posting in a civil manner so difficult for you? Hundreds of people use these forums without incurring punishments for calling people names. One would think that you'd understand that we take the rules seriously.

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Neu Leonstein wrote:https://www.dw.com/cda/en/austrian-vice-chancellor-heinz-christian-strache-resigns-following-alleged-corruption-scandal/a-48783968

https://t.co/TPJESmIYMD?amp=1

Heinz-Christian Strache, the head of Austria's right-wing populist FPÖ party, met with a purported Russian multimillionaire on Ibiza in July 2017. She offered him campaign support in exchange for public contracts. What he didn't know was that the entire exchange was being recorded by hidden cameras.


Good riddance, obviously. Why is it always the a nationalists that get involved in these sell-out deals with foreign interests?

What do you think? Horribly unfair setup? Or a sign that populism brings with it a degradation of social and governmental infrastructure that risks dragging developed countries away from that status?

The problem isn't with nationalism or far right, but with those who don't know what far right means. Basically, everyone to the right of Stalin has become far right to the left.
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Postby Cekoviu » Sat May 18, 2019 10:28 am

Tornado Queendom wrote:
Neu Leonstein wrote:https://www.dw.com/cda/en/austrian-vice-chancellor-heinz-christian-strache-resigns-following-alleged-corruption-scandal/a-48783968

https://t.co/TPJESmIYMD?amp=1



Good riddance, obviously. Why is it always the a nationalists that get involved in these sell-out deals with foreign interests?

What do you think? Horribly unfair setup? Or a sign that populism brings with it a degradation of social and governmental infrastructure that risks dragging developed countries away from that status?

The problem isn't with nationalism or far right, but with those who don't know what far right means. Basically, everyone to the right of Stalin has become far right to the left.
Right Wing Populism is NOT Nazism! Nazism = Genocide, which Right Wing Populism (as far as I know) doesn't support.

The funny thing is that the exact same can be said for the right acting like everyone left of Metaxas is a Marxist.
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Postby Novus America » Sat May 18, 2019 10:52 am

Nakena wrote:
Novus America wrote:
Exactly. The sale of Europe to multinationals and hostile foreign regimes, predates and in fact helped cause the rise of the populists.
The mainstream parties are just as guilty.

But there is still irony in populists rightly criticizing the asset stripping of Europe are willing to take a piece of the action.


They are Putin worshippers, and believe he will come ride in on a white horse like Czar Alexander I. and liberate Europe or some garbage like this.


Sure the rank and file often believe such nonsense.
But here it looks like the leadership was just looking for that sweet cash.

Of course Putin is no one’s friend.
He seeks to weaken and divide Europe, obviously.
Not lead so white Christians crusade against the Muslims and Jews and any of that silliness.

Hence why he also supports with the far left.
Putin is an amoral fundamentally dishonest sleaze of course.
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Think something like prewar Fallout, minus the bad stuff.

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Postby Telconi » Sat May 18, 2019 11:16 am

Novus America wrote:
Nakena wrote:
They are Putin worshippers, and believe he will come ride in on a white horse like Czar Alexander I. and liberate Europe or some garbage like this.


Sure the rank and file often believe such nonsense.
But here it looks like the leadership was just looking for that sweet cash.

Of course Putin is no one’s friend.
He seeks to weaken and divide Europe, obviously.
Not lead so white Christians crusade against the Muslims and Jews and any of that silliness.

Hence why he also supports with the far left.
Putin is an amoral fundamentally dishonest sleaze of course.


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Postby Novus America » Sat May 18, 2019 11:35 am

Telconi wrote:
Novus America wrote:
Sure the rank and file often believe such nonsense.
But here it looks like the leadership was just looking for that sweet cash.

Of course Putin is no one’s friend.
He seeks to weaken and divide Europe, obviously.
Not lead so white Christians crusade against the Muslims and Jews and any of that silliness.

Hence why he also supports with the far left.
Putin is an amoral fundamentally dishonest sleaze of course.


There is something to be said for "The enemy of my enemy is my friend"

Even if he his also a “friend” of your some of your enemies?

Putin plays all sides when it suits him.

While sometimes that tactic has short term benefits, it can also bite you long term.

But most Putinboos really claim Putin is some holy man fighting for the good of the right, not just a temporary ally of convenience.
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Zombie Ike/Teddy Roosevelt 2020.

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Think something like prewar Fallout, minus the bad stuff.

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Postby Telconi » Sat May 18, 2019 11:40 am

Novus America wrote:
Telconi wrote:
There is something to be said for "The enemy of my enemy is my friend"

Even if he his also a “friend” of your some of your enemies?

Putin plays all sides when it suits him.

While sometimes that tactic has short term benefits, it can also bite you long term.

But most Putinboos really claim Putin is some holy man fighting for the good of the right, not just a temporary ally of convenience.


Alliances of the present address the needs of the present. The Allies sent the USSR tons of military aid during WWII, knowing full well that a conflict with the Soviets was possible or even likely.
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Postby United Universal Union » Sat May 18, 2019 11:41 am

Novus America wrote:
Nakena wrote:
They are Putin worshippers, and believe he will come ride in on a white horse like Czar Alexander I. and liberate Europe or some garbage like this.


Sure the rank and file often believe such nonsense.
But here it looks like the leadership was just looking for that sweet cash.

Of course Putin is no one’s friend.
He seeks to weaken and divide Europe, obviously.
Not lead so white Christians crusade against the Muslims and Jews and any of that silliness.

Hence why he also supports with the far left.
Putin is an amoral fundamentally dishonest sleaze of course.

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Postby Nazis in Space » Sat May 18, 2019 11:51 am

Risottia wrote:European xenophobe and self-proclaimed sovereignist is actually an agent of antiEuropean foreign powers.

Well, no. It's sadder than that.

He wanted to be an agent of a foreign power, but he couldn't even get to chatting it up and chatted up a trap instead.

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