Germany Rules BDS movement as Anti-Semitic

[Communal concils]

Yes, BDS is anti-Semitic in that it denies that Jews have the right to self-determination. That's anti-Semitism, per the Working Definition that the European Council and State Department agree on.

https://european-forum-on-antisemitism. ... sh-english

If every religious group came in and demanded a nation, imagine where we'd be today. I'm going to imagine the Mormon Theocracy of Deseret and the Scientological Group of California. Perhaps we might even have the Neo-Pagan Nation of the Nords. That'd be an interesting world, yes, but not a good one.

Just imagine if India balkanize. All the people will kill each other, and try to use what ever means to retain power.

[Proctopeo]

I don't know enough about the group to say whether it specifically engages in anti-Semitism. While opposition to Israel's government and the idea of a purely Jewish state (or any ethnostate) is not anti-Semitic, some anti-Israel organizations utilize anti-Semitic ideas to their advantage, and it's correct to label them as such in those cases.

This.

Well, this, and the fact it's Germany and they're still skittish around antisemitism, which extends to anti-Zionism due to the significant crossover between the two. It shouldn't be surprising.

As for BDS in particular, it seems like accusations may not be unfounded. Outside of being condemned by multiple countries - and 26 US states - there's three factors here.
One, antisemitism is rampant in Palestine, and it's run by Palestinians, so there's room for healthy suspicion.
Two, South Africa, whose current government is... particularly racist, is in full support of them. While perhaps not antisemitic, South Africa is not a friend you want to have, and racists like racists who aren't racist against one another.
Three, when the Spanish city of Valencia passed a resolution in support, reportedly the intent was, in Spanish, "to boycott Israeli citizens and companies". Emphasis mine. I think that speaks for itself tbh, especially since the Valencian resolution was praised by BDS...

Oh, and apparently a pro-Palestinian activist called BDS a cult and said it, in private, wishes for the destruction of the Jewish state. It also might be anti-academic in character.

[Druulis]

So Germany hates Palestine?

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

I don't know enough about the group to say whether it specifically engages in anti-Semitism. While opposition to Israel's government and the idea of a purely Jewish state (or any ethnostate) is not anti-Semitic, some anti-Israel organizations utilize anti-Semitic ideas to their advantage, and it's correct to label them as such in those cases.

This.

Well, this, and the fact it's Germany and they're still skittish around antisemitism, which extends to anti-Zionism due to the significant crossover between the two. It shouldn't be surprising.

As for BDS in particular, it seems like accusations may not be unfounded. Outside of being condemned by multiple countries - and 26 US states - there's three factors here.
One, antisemitism is rampant in Palestine, and it's run by Palestinians, so there's room for healthy suspicion.
Two, South Africa, whose current government is... particularly racist, is in full support of them. While perhaps not antisemitic, South Africa is not a friend you want to have, and racists like racists who aren't racist against one another.
Three, when the Spanish city of Valencia passed a resolution in support, reportedly the intent was, in Spanish, "to boycott Israeli citizens and companies". Emphasis mine. I think that speaks for itself tbh, especially since the Valencian resolution was praised by BDS...

Oh, and apparently a pro-Palestinian activist called BDS a cult and said it, in private, wishes for the destruction of the Jewish state. It also might be anti-academic in character.

Sadly, anti-Semitic sentiments are still alive and well in my country. I do, however, have a problem with labeling any criticism of the State of Israel as anti-Semitic. It seems that with BDS this is not unfounded, the accusation, but it bothers me that this gets used as an excuse by some to prevent criticism when it is warranted.

[Proctopeo]

This.

Well, this, and the fact it's Germany and they're still skittish around antisemitism, which extends to anti-Zionism due to the significant crossover between the two. It shouldn't be surprising.

As for BDS in particular, it seems like accusations may not be unfounded. Outside of being condemned by multiple countries - and 26 US states - there's three factors here.
One, antisemitism is rampant in Palestine, and it's run by Palestinians, so there's room for healthy suspicion.
Two, South Africa, whose current government is... particularly racist, is in full support of them. While perhaps not antisemitic, South Africa is not a friend you want to have, and racists like racists who aren't racist against one another.
Three, when the Spanish city of Valencia passed a resolution in support, reportedly the intent was, in Spanish, "to boycott Israeli citizens and companies". Emphasis mine. I think that speaks for itself tbh, especially since the Valencian resolution was praised by BDS...

Oh, and apparently a pro-Palestinian activist called BDS a cult and said it, in private, wishes for the destruction of the Jewish state. It also might be anti-academic in character.

Sadly, anti-Semitic sentiments are still alive and well in my country. I do, however, have a problem with labeling any criticism of the State of Israel as anti-Semitic. It seems that with BDS this is not unfounded, the accusation, but it bothers me that this gets used as an excuse by some to prevent criticism when it is warranted.

Some criticism is always warranted, but I've noticed that people have trouble avoiding antisemitic statements when criticizing Israel. It shouldn't be hard.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

Sadly, anti-Semitic sentiments are still alive and well in my country. I do, however, have a problem with labeling any criticism of the State of Israel as anti-Semitic. It seems that with BDS this is not unfounded, the accusation, but it bothers me that this gets used as an excuse by some to prevent criticism when it is warranted.

Some criticism is always warranted, but I've noticed that people have trouble avoiding antisemitic statements when criticizing Israel. It shouldn't be hard.

If it’s kept strictly about wrongdoing by the state itself, yes. If you start harassing the Israeli or any Jewish person out there then no. That’s not ok.

[Communal concils]

I don't know enough about the group to say whether it specifically engages in anti-Semitism. While opposition to Israel's government and the idea of a purely Jewish state (or any ethnostate) is not anti-Semitic, some anti-Israel organizations utilize anti-Semitic ideas to their advantage, and it's correct to label them as such in those cases.

This.

Well, this, and the fact it's Germany and they're still skittish around antisemitism, which extends to anti-Zionism due to the significant crossover between the two. It shouldn't be surprising.

As for BDS in particular, it seems like accusations may not be unfounded. Outside of being condemned by multiple countries - and 26 US states - there's three factors here.
One, antisemitism is rampant in Palestine, and it's run by Palestinians, so there's room for healthy suspicion.
Two, South Africa, whose current government is... particularly racist, is in full support of them. While perhaps not antisemitic, South Africa is not a friend you want to have, and racists like racists who aren't racist against one another.
Three, when the Spanish city of Valencia passed a resolution in support, reportedly the intent was, in Spanish, "to boycott Israeli citizens and companies". Emphasis mine. I think that speaks for itself tbh, especially since the Valencian resolution was praised by BDS...

Oh, and apparently a pro-Palestinian activist called BDS a cult and said it, in private, wishes for the destruction of the Jewish state. It also might be anti-academic in character.

1. Well, perhaps the media has something to do with this.

2. The palestinians have every reason to hate israel, especially when it was the British that rejected their freedom as a nation.

3. Sometime a minority is right, some times a Majority is right. A few Token characters serve as a tools of propaganda. A majority of Palestinians hate Israel.

[Communal concils]

Sadly, anti-Semitic sentiments are still alive and well in my country. I do, however, have a problem with labeling any criticism of the State of Israel as anti-Semitic. It seems that with BDS this is not unfounded, the accusation, but it bothers me that this gets used as an excuse by some to prevent criticism when it is warranted.

Some criticism is always warranted, but I've noticed that people have trouble avoiding antisemitic statements when criticizing Israel. It shouldn't be hard.

I see that as a defensive response from being denied the opportunity of having a nice debate. Zionist call their enemies anti-Semitic even when you have not hated people base on their Jewness. Honestly, the statements are meant to offend the people that won't listen.

[Cekoviu]

Yes, BDS is anti-Semitic in that it denies that Jews have the right to self-determination. That's anti-Semitism, per the Working Definition that the European Council and State Department agree on.

https://european-forum-on-antisemitism. ... sh-english

If every religious group came in and demanded a nation, imagine where we'd be today. I'm going to imagine the Mormon Theocracy of Deseret and the Scientological Group of California. Perhaps we might even have the Neo-Pagan Nation of the Nords. That'd be an interesting world, yes, but not a good one.

Utah is already de facto independent from the United States.

[British Tackeettlaus]

OK, fine. I'm still going to boycott Israeli goods and services though.

[The Huskar Social Union]

I thought this said BDSM movement and was really confused for a second.



I dont know much about this BDS movement (first i ever heard of it) so im on the fence at the moment.

[Nakena]

I dont know much about this BDS movement (first i ever heard of it) so im on the fence at the moment.

It's a palestinian campaign that promotes economic, academic and political boycott of Israel.

Did I mention I have some Dead Sea Salt here? Yum!

[Conserative Morality]

Remember kids, if you don't support Israel unconditionally, that's antisemitism. =^^)

[Nakena]

Remember kids, if you don't support Israel unconditionally, that's antisemitism. =^^)

Hey they are the greatest ally ^^

[Aureumterra]

Remember kids, if you don't support Israel unconditionally, that's antisemitism. =^^)

It’s not antisemitic to oppose Israel, it is antisemitic to oppose Jews

Guess what BDS opposes?

[Conserative Morality]

Remember kids, if you don't support Israel unconditionally, that's antisemitism. =^^)

It’s not antisemitic to oppose Israel, it is antisemitic to oppose Jews

Guess what BDS opposes?

Israel.

[Conserative Morality]

Remember kids, if you don't support Israel unconditionally, that's antisemitism. =^^)

Hey they are the greatest ally ^^

Yes, I too believe that the greatest action an ally can take is selling our military secrets to China.

[Washington Resistance Army]

Remember kids, if you don't support Israel unconditionally, that's antisemitism. =^^)

Hey they are the greatest ally ^^

So great they kill our servicemen, act as a fifth column in our nation and sell our military aid to adversarial nations!

[Conserative Morality]

Hey they are the greatest ally ^^

So great they kill our servicemen, act as a fifth column in our nation and sell our military aid to adversarial nations!

I am truly astounded at their loyalty. Truly, Israel can do no wrong!

[Cetacea]

The Boycott, Divestment, Sanctions (BDS) movement works to end international support for Israel's oppression of Palestinians and pressure Israel to comply with international law.
In doing so It promotes a two state solution, so no it doesn't want the end of Israel as a nation just its justification as an ethnostate. Which is anti-Zionism not anti-semitism

I'm disappointed that Germany is supporting ethnic nationalism, I wonder if Merkel will be pushing the same ideals for Germany itself?

[Nakena]

Hey they are the greatest ally ^^

Yes, I too believe that the greatest action an ally can take is selling our military secrets to China.

Or doing important intel work during the Iraq War

[Conserative Morality]

Yes, I too believe that the greatest action an ally can take is selling our military secrets to China.

Or doing important intel work during the Iraq War

Jesus Christ.

[Hakons]

The Boycott, Divestment, Sanctions (BDS) movement works to end international support for Israel's oppression of Palestinians and pressure Israel to comply with international law.
In doing so It promotes a two state solution, so no it doesn't want the end of Israel as a nation just its justification as an ethnostate. Which is anti-Zionism not anti-semitism

I'm disappointed that Germany is supporting ethnic nationalism, I wonder if Merkel will be pushing the same ideals for Germany itself?

The problem is that the line between anti-Zionism and antisemitism can get pretty blurry, especially when BDS people start parroting Hamas positions and propaganda. For people strongly invested in the BDS movement, they put incredible amounts of time in opposing the Jewish state. One has to wonder why they don't put even a sliver of as much time for similar situations around the world that don't involve the Jewish state. It is one thing to supposedly oppose "colonization" and "apartheid," but it is another to selectively oppose it, and only against the Jewish state. If you only oppose these things when it's supposedly at the hands of Jews, but don't say a peep when it's at the hands on non-Jews, chances are you're an antisemite.

[Kavagrad]

The Boycott, Divestment, Sanctions (BDS) movement works to end international support for Israel's oppression of Palestinians and pressure Israel to comply with international law.
In doing so It promotes a two state solution, so no it doesn't want the end of Israel as a nation just its justification as an ethnostate. Which is anti-Zionism not anti-semitism

I'm disappointed that Germany is supporting ethnic nationalism, I wonder if Merkel will be pushing the same ideals for Germany itself?

The problem is that the line between anti-Zionism and antisemitism can get pretty blurry, especially when BDS people start parroting Hamas positions and propaganda. For people strongly invested in the BDS movement, they put incredible amounts of time in opposing the Jewish state. One has to wonder why they don't put even a sliver of as much time for similar situations around the world that don't involve the Jewish state. It is one thing to supposedly oppose "colonization" and "apartheid," but it is another to selectively oppose it, and only against the Jewish state. If you only oppose these things when it's supposedly at the hands of Jews, but don't say a peep when it's at the hands on non-Jews, chances are you're an antisemite.

Not every human rights organisation can be Amnesty, some have to focus on specific places and issues. That should be pretty obvious, no?

[Sanctum and Ultima]

Really, guys? It's actually not. I'm Pro-Palestine and I'm not Anti-Jew and I don't call for expulsion of the Jews back to Europe.