Germany Rules BDS movement as Anti-Semitic

[Aureumterra]

There are some within the BDS movement who are anti-Semitic, however there are also anti-Semites who support Israel. And last time I checked both groups are small but loud

The overall BDS movement though is not built or founded upon antisemitism, and it explicitly states it wants complete equality between Jews and Arabs alike. See here:
The BDS movement stands for freedom, justice and equality.

Just like how the KKK says they want equality

[Sierra Lyricalia]

The overall BDS movement though is not built or founded upon antisemitism, and it explicitly states it wants complete equality between Jews and Arabs alike. See here:
The BDS movement stands for freedom, justice and equality.

Just like how the KKK says they want equality

So you're arguing that a boycott of products made in the People's Republic of China to protest that government's treatment of Uighurs and Tibetans is inherently racist against Chinese people.

[Communal concils]

The overall BDS movement though is not built or founded upon antisemitism, and it explicitly states it wants complete equality between Jews and Arabs alike. See here:
The BDS movement stands for freedom, justice and equality.

Just like how the KKK says they want equality

That's a bad comparison. The BDS has never officially condemned the Jews as a ethnic group, while the KKK from the very beginning stated that it's their goal.

The African American was in the same situation as Israel. So Abraham Lincoln among others, supported Liberia's creation. James Monroe allow American blacks to settle Liberia. The Liberia state discriminated against the native Africans, and the African Americans were slavers and masters over them, adapting apart of Dixie culture. Liberia as a ethno-state for African-Americans did not end until the 1990's.

[Minachia]

Just like how the KKK says they want equality

That's a bad comparison. The BDS has never officially condemned the Jews as a ethnic group, while the KKK from the very beginning stated that it's their goal.

The African American was in the same situation as Israel. So Abraham Lincoln settled up a colony in Liberia. The Liberia state discriminated against the native Africans, and the African Americans were slavers and masters over them, adapting apart of Dixie culture. Liberia as a ethno-state for African-Americans did not end until the 1990's.

Lincoln didn't set up Liberia. That was James Monroe.

[Scomagia]

Of course the G*rman would make moves to suppress a movement that opposes a genocidal regime.

Such is the nature of The Hun.

Oh, what genocide? Where's the mass extermination? No where because it isn't a fucking genocide.

[Communal concils]

That's a bad comparison. The BDS has never officially condemned the Jews as a ethnic group, while the KKK from the very beginning stated that it's their goal.

The African American was in the same situation as Israel. So Abraham Lincoln settled up a colony in Liberia. The Liberia state discriminated against the native Africans, and the African Americans were slavers and masters over them, adapting apart of Dixie culture. Liberia as a ethno-state for African-Americans did not end until the 1990's.

Lincoln didn't set up Liberia. That was James Monroe.

sorry for the mistake. Though, Lincoln supported the ideal of "making blacks back to Africa".

[Scomagia]

I suppose that depends on the nature of how they phrase what they're saying. I have issues with Israel's treatment of Palestine, but I always make sure to be clear that my problems are specifically with the Israeli government. Not Israel as a whole, not the average man on the street and not Jewish people.

I don't know BDS, perhaps they probably use harsher rhetoric than I would. That might well come from a place of anti-semitism, which they're masking with anti-zionist sentiment. Ultimately, there are alot of people out there who criticise Israel's actions who don't get officially branded as anti-semitic by the government, so if the government has singled BDS out, there may be some truth to the ruling.

BDS is a mixed bag. Some of it is legitimate criticism, some of it is covert Anti-Semitism.

[Cekoviu]

I don't know enough about the group to say whether it specifically engages in anti-Semitism. While opposition to Israel's government and the idea of a purely Jewish state (or any ethnostate) is not anti-Semitic, some anti-Israel organizations utilize anti-Semitic ideas to their advantage, and it's correct to label them as such in those cases.

[Scomagia]

Strongly disagree on this one. The fact that across the entire western world there's pushback against even speaking ill of Israel kinda fuels that whole Jewish conspiracy thing.

Saying you can’t speak ill of Israel isn’t censoring Neo-Nazis though. It’s just dumb.

Nobody is saying that.

[Aureumterra]

I don't know enough about the group to say whether it specifically engages in anti-Semitism. While opposition to Israel's government and the idea of a purely Jewish state (or any ethnostate) is not anti-Semitic, some anti-Israel organizations utilize anti-Semitic ideas to their advantage, and it's correct to label them as such in those cases.

It should be obvious that to BDS, opposition to the Israeli government is a dogwhistle for “jews r big bad meanies”

[Cekoviu]

I don't know enough about the group to say whether it specifically engages in anti-Semitism. While opposition to Israel's government and the idea of a purely Jewish state (or any ethnostate) is not anti-Semitic, some anti-Israel organizations utilize anti-Semitic ideas to their advantage, and it's correct to label them as such in those cases.

It should be obvious that to BDS, opposition to the Israeli government is a dogwhistle for “jews r big bad meanies”

I mean, I haven't heard of them until now, so that wasn't obvious to me?

[Aureumterra]

Just like how the KKK says they want equality

So you're arguing that a boycott of products made in the People's Republic of China to protest that government's treatment of Uighurs and Tibetans is inherently racist against Chinese people.

[Scomagia]

I don't know enough about the group to say whether it specifically engages in anti-Semitism. While opposition to Israel's government and the idea of a purely Jewish state (or any ethnostate) is not anti-Semitic, some anti-Israel organizations utilize anti-Semitic ideas to their advantage, and it's correct to label them as such in those cases.

It should be obvious that to BDS, opposition to the Israeli government is a dogwhistle for “jews r big bad meanies”

No but when large parts of your movement accuse Israel of genocide when that is objectively not happening, it does seem to verge into "those evil Jews!" territory.

[Cekoviu]

It should be obvious that to BDS, opposition to the Israeli government is a dogwhistle for “jews r big bad meanies”

No but when large parts of your movement accuse Israel of genocide when that is objectively not happening, it does seem to verge into "those evil Jews!" territory.

I don't see that as inherently anti-Semitic, just inflating the magnitude of what's happening significantly.

[Washington Resistance Army]

It should be obvious that to BDS, opposition to the Israeli government is a dogwhistle for “jews r big bad meanies”

No but when large parts of your movement accuse Israel of genocide when that is objectively not happening, it does seem to verge into "those evil Jews!" territory.

Maybe not full scale genocide but open ethnic cleansing is a rather accurate description.

[5 Kingdoms of Britannia]

I don’t like germany’s Government but this is beautiful.

Same nice to see the mainland European powers doing something right for once

[Sierra Lyricalia]

So you're arguing that a boycott of products made in the People's Republic of China to protest that government's treatment of Uighurs and Tibetans is inherently racist against Chinese people.

Uh, no. You're literally making the claim that boycotting Israel (despite the fact that many Jewish people support said boycott) is inherently anti-Semitic. That's not a straw man, that's what you said. How are the cases different?

[Communal concils]

I don't know enough about the group to say whether it specifically engages in anti-Semitism. While opposition to Israel's government and the idea of a purely Jewish state (or any ethnostate) is not anti-Semitic, some anti-Israel organizations utilize anti-Semitic ideas to their advantage, and it's correct to label them as such in those cases.

It should be obvious that to BDS, opposition to the Israeli government is a dogwhistle for “jews r big bad meanies”

That's very simplistic. The real reason they hate israel is because of discrimination of Palestinians.

I sure that Israel did not magically became an ethnic jewish state.

[Communal concils]

I don’t like germany’s Government but this is beautiful.

Same nice to see the mainland European powers doing something right for once

That's actually a big mistake,and proof that Zionism is manipulating western society.

[Greed and Death]

Noting the efficiency of the German state I imagine they are rounding up BDS members as we speak and sending them to Israel for Trial.

[US-SSR]

It's all about the Benjamins.

[Aureumterra]

Same nice to see the mainland European powers doing something right for once

That's actually a big mistake,and proof that Zionism is manipulating western society.

It's all about the Benjamins.

I feel like every day there are more and more conspiracies popping up from the far left

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

How is it anti-Semitic to point out that, in effect, Israel has done terrible things to Palestine in this conflict? The state of Israel keeps using this card to try and deflect any just criticism of its actions and its tiresome. Criticizing Saudi Arabia for wrongdoing is not any more anti-Arab than criticizing the Israeli state for wrongdoing is anti-Semitic.

The Holocaust happened, but stop milking that cow to try and deflect criticism.

Edit: after further reading, seems like BDS’s platform warrants these actions on being anti-Semitic.

[Emazia]

Yes, BDS is anti-Semitic in that it denies that Jews have the right to self-determination. That's anti-Semitism, per the Working Definition that the European Council and State Department agree on.

https://european-forum-on-antisemitism. ... sh-english

If every religious group came in and demanded a nation, imagine where we'd be today. I'm going to imagine the Mormon Theocracy of Deseret and the Scientological Group of California. Perhaps we might even have the Neo-Pagan Nation of the Nords. That'd be an interesting world, yes, but not a good one.

[Communal concils]

That's actually a big mistake,and proof that Zionism is manipulating western society.

It's all about the Benjamins.

I feel like every day there are more and more conspiracies popping up from the far left

Conspiracies are not always wrong.

Also, It's not a conspiracy to me. That is because the threat is not secret. It's right in our faces.