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Neo Kerala
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Corrupt Dictatorship

After Putin

Postby Neo Kerala » Wed May 15, 2019 10:38 pm

This isn't a critique of Putin.It is an actual discussion.

So,Russia is currently doing fine but Putin has made the Russian Political System is centralised around him.There doesn't seem to be anyone else who is qualified.What do you think?
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Jack Thomas Lang
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Ex-Nation

Postby Jack Thomas Lang » Wed May 15, 2019 10:41 pm

Maybe list some possible successors like Shoigu, Medvedov and any other big shot.

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Bombadil
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Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Bombadil » Wed May 15, 2019 10:41 pm

Putin will never die, just like his ancestor Ras Putin.
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十年

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Tetradimensional Overworld
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Ex-Nation

Postby Tetradimensional Overworld » Wed May 15, 2019 10:42 pm

After Putin, that's a good premise for my worldbuilding project
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Duhon
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Ex-Nation

Postby Duhon » Wed May 15, 2019 10:43 pm

Well, Putin is the only remotely capable leader the Russians have now. A great tragedy, all things considered, but then a hallmark of Russian culture has been to think in the depressingly short term (see: Ivan Groznyy).

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Duhon
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Postby Duhon » Wed May 15, 2019 10:44 pm

Jack Thomas Lang wrote:Maybe list some possible successors like Shoigu, Medvedov and any other big shot.


Peewees to the Matterhorn, the lot of them. Which is depressing, honestly.

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Heloin
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Ex-Nation

Postby Heloin » Wed May 15, 2019 10:44 pm

Mecha-Putin.

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Kowani
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Democratic Socialists

Postby Kowani » Wed May 15, 2019 10:45 pm

Heloin wrote:Mecha-Putin.

Psh. Uploading your consciousness to the Internet, that’s the future.
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Duhon
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Postby Duhon » Wed May 15, 2019 10:46 pm

Bombadil wrote:Putin will never die, just like his ancestor Ras Putin.


Rasputinism, anyone?

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Bombadil
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Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Bombadil » Wed May 15, 2019 10:53 pm

Duhon wrote:
Bombadil wrote:Putin will never die, just like his ancestor Ras Putin.


Rasputinism, anyone?


He's a film advisor in Hollywood.

While many people just blindly assumed that Grigori Rasputin brought it while he was trying to claw his way out from under the ice of a Russian river, we know that he survived that night. Replacing what was assumed to be his body with that of a corpse with an ostentatious beard attached- a series of events that would later form the basis for the hit film Weekend at Bernie’s- he fled revolutionary Russia, sensing the danger that lay there for him, and continued his career fraternising with the upper echelons of the cultural elite. That’s right- we can confirm that Rasputin actually ended up in Hollywood. And he’s been working there ever since.

With his magical powers, Rasputin acted as a consultant for many major horror-related motion pictures during his stay in Los Angeles. Although he’s now retired from the business officially, he occasionally takes on jobs as favours for proteges like Scorcese and Tarantino. While his official involvement on film sets is generally kept hush-hush for fear that the viewing public may be put off by the involvement of a supposedly-dead Russian priest, he is a regular on the LA party circuit.

Evidence of this is limitless- aside from a photo with Grigori and George A. Romero from the set of Night of the Living Dead, which was tweeted in 1967 then quickly removed, he regularly uses pseudonyms to conceal his real identity. The general rule of thumb is that if the person accepting the Academy Award has a big beard, it’s a nod to the fact that Rasputin was behind the bulk of the work.

He is scheduled to begin production of a new movie next spring.


I remember Twitter in '67, it was definitely there.
Eldest, that's what I am...Tom remembers the first raindrop and the first acorn...he knew the dark under the stars when it was fearless — before the Dark Lord came from Outside..

十年

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Neanderthaland
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Left-wing Utopia

Postby Neanderthaland » Wed May 15, 2019 11:05 pm

If the pattern holds, his successor will have a full head of hair.
Ug make fire. Mod ban Ug.

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United Muscovite Nations
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Postby United Muscovite Nations » Wed May 15, 2019 11:08 pm

Neanderthaland wrote:If the pattern holds, his successor will have a full head of hair.

^This, the bald-hairy dichotomy is the great pattern of Russian history.
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Tetradimensional Overworld
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Postby Tetradimensional Overworld » Wed May 15, 2019 11:11 pm

United Muscovite Nations wrote:
Neanderthaland wrote:If the pattern holds, his successor will have a full head of hair.

^This, the bald-hairy dichotomy is the great pattern of Russian history.

If you don't count Malenkov
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IF YOU THINK WE'RE FOUR DIMENSIONAL, YOU ARE MISTAKEN. THIS IS JUST AN OLD NAME, A PLACEHOLDER NAME. I WILL /STILLME YA IF YOU MAKE CRAPPY ANSWERS SO DEAL WITH IT VADIM
TETRADIMENSIONAL OVERWORLD isn't my IC name. This nation is pure unadulterated nostalgia, deal with it. Did you know that I wasted 400 million plus seconds of my life and you wasted more? Well, if I could go back to any age, I'd go back to the time when I was 11. Great times indeed. I'm an anti-communist, but I do love me some Soviet music.
Late childhood is the best part of childhood -- change my mind. People below 10 are in blissful ignorance so I'd rather avoid that. Blissful ignorance is not true happiness

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Neanderthaland
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Left-wing Utopia

Postby Neanderthaland » Wed May 15, 2019 11:11 pm

Tetradimensional Overworld wrote:
United Muscovite Nations wrote:^This, the bald-hairy dichotomy is the great pattern of Russian history.

If you don't count Malenkov

Nobody counts Malenkov.
Ug make fire. Mod ban Ug.

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United Muscovite Nations
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Postby United Muscovite Nations » Wed May 15, 2019 11:12 pm

Tetradimensional Overworld wrote:
United Muscovite Nations wrote:^This, the bald-hairy dichotomy is the great pattern of Russian history.

If you don't count Malenkov

What loser would count Malenkov.
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An Alan Smithee Nation
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Postby An Alan Smithee Nation » Wed May 15, 2019 11:42 pm

Neanderthaland wrote:If the pattern holds, his successor will have a full head of hair.


Putin in a wig.
Everything is intertwinkled

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Neanderthaland
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Left-wing Utopia

Postby Neanderthaland » Wed May 15, 2019 11:44 pm

An Alan Smithee Nation wrote:
Neanderthaland wrote:If the pattern holds, his successor will have a full head of hair.


Putin in a wig.

So... Trump?
Ug make fire. Mod ban Ug.

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Baltenstein
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Ex-Nation

Postby Baltenstein » Thu May 16, 2019 2:05 am

We don't know the current status of "Project: Vladitron". Putin may still see himself succesfully upgraded to eternal robo-czar of all the Russias.
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-Ocelot-
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Postby -Ocelot- » Thu May 16, 2019 2:24 am

Either the huge state propaganda system Russia has will fabricate some new messiah figure to prepare for Putin's retirement or Putin will die unexpectedly and Russia will have to face yet another massive political crisis.

All regimes that are based around a "great leader" have this problem. But Russia is a more refined dictatorship than, say, the USSR and they will most likely have no issue promoting the next dictator. As long as the oligarchs don't eat each other in the process.

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Deutschess Kaiserreich
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Postby Deutschess Kaiserreich » Thu May 16, 2019 2:27 am

He will probably be moved to the golden throne if he ever approaches death.
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Duhon
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Postby Duhon » Thu May 16, 2019 4:22 am

-Ocelot- wrote:Either the huge state propaganda system Russia has will fabricate some new messiah figure to prepare for Putin's retirement or Putin will die unexpectedly and Russia will have to face yet another massive political crisis.

All regimes that are based around a "great leader" have this problem. But Russia is a more refined dictatorship than, say, the USSR and they will most likely have no issue promoting the next dictator. As long as the oligarchs don't eat each other in the process.


Refined or not, you have to have a lackey who'll look the part as well as have experience handling the oligarchs, and who aside from Putin has both in spades?

No one.

So the system Putin has fashioned out of the frustrations of the '90s will certainly collapse, with no one but weak schmucks ruling over Moscow in the interim.

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An Alan Smithee Nation
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Postby An Alan Smithee Nation » Thu May 16, 2019 4:30 am

How about Sergey Shoygu?
Everything is intertwinkled

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Duhon
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Postby Duhon » Thu May 16, 2019 4:32 am

An Alan Smithee Nation wrote:How about Sergey Shoygu?


Peewee.

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Washington Resistance Army
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Thu May 16, 2019 4:37 am

Zhirinovsky is the only person who should lead Russia.
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Jack Thomas Lang
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Postby Jack Thomas Lang » Thu May 16, 2019 4:40 am

Washington Resistance Army wrote:Zhirinovsky is the only person who should lead Russia.

Shut up black mud.

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