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Postby The Black Forrest » Wed May 15, 2019 9:24 pm

First I will mention I have a blue ribbon for a family member who died in the line of duty.

To the question Yes and No.

There are bad cops out there. It's hard to defend the organization without question when you watch a video of one cop not liking running down a black man who could barely run and then the cops puts 6 in his back.

The "militarization" of the police causes images problems. Meaning the firepower and the aggressive nature that is shown. I remember the Flint issues and one cop on the top of a wagon pointed what looked like a sniper rifle at a bunch of new guys. Didn't like the group and was probably a defensive move but was it needed? Especially when there are cameras? Just added to the image of shoot first.

The media is not the problem people claim it is. We are the problem. People like bad news events. I guess it shows them their lives aren't so bad. Good news events are often skipped.

People add to this. Stories and bad experiences feed the bad thoughts. BLM has been a mouth in this area. Some of their complaints and stories are valid. Some are just determined to be the "avenging warrior" and lash out to feel better about their lives. I remember at a protest; they made comments of the police. Mentioned not all were bad and mentioned my cousin. Several started making comments basically saying another racist cop is eliminated. Don't support them that much anymore.

My cousin was color blind when it came to the law and his duties. You broke the law; he was going to get you. He was known to be a good cop. My neighbor is an assistant DA. He mentioned my cousins name to the local SWAT commander and my neighbor said he had a somber face and said he didn't know him and he was one of the good ones.

What to do about it? That's another discussion.
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Postby Pope Joan » Wed May 15, 2019 10:35 pm

It is much too difficult to get reliable information on cop behavior. Official documents are often closed; FOI requests are often denied, and there are no reliable national databases on such things as "friendly fire" in cases where one cop shoots another.

Some courts seem more easily swayed by public opinion against shooting by police than do those in other jurisdictions. So, an unarmed, not acting in a threatening way, was shot and killed in Minnesota and the police were not punished, yet someone threatening residents with a gun refused warnings to drop it, and the officer who responded to the 911 calls who then shot him was convicted. He should just have let the people live in terror; let the guy actually shoot somebody first and then you can respond? Yes, the community standards seem to vary widely.
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Postby Aeritai » Thu May 16, 2019 11:10 am

The Black Forrest wrote:First I will mention I have a blue ribbon for a family member who died in the line of duty.

To the question Yes and No.

There are bad cops out there. It's hard to defend the organization without question when you watch a video of one cop not liking running down a black man who could barely run and then the cops puts 6 in his back.

The "militarization" of the police causes images problems. Meaning the firepower and the aggressive nature that is shown. I remember the Flint issues and one cop on the top of a wagon pointed what looked like a sniper rifle at a bunch of new guys. Didn't like the group and was probably a defensive move but was it needed? Especially when there are cameras? Just added to the image of shoot first.

The media is not the problem people claim it is. We are the problem. People like bad news events. I guess it shows them their lives aren't so bad. Good news events are often skipped.

People add to this. Stories and bad experiences feed the bad thoughts. BLM has been a mouth in this area. Some of their complaints and stories are valid. Some are just determined to be the "avenging warrior" and lash out to feel better about their lives. I remember at a protest; they made comments of the police. Mentioned not all were bad and mentioned my cousin. Several started making comments basically saying another racist cop is eliminated. Don't support them that much anymore.

My cousin was color blind when it came to the law and his duties. You broke the law; he was going to get you. He was known to be a good cop. My neighbor is an assistant DA. He mentioned my cousins name to the local SWAT commander and my neighbor said he had a somber face and said he didn't know him and he was one of the good ones.

What to do about it? That's another discussion.


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Postby Nova Cyberia » Thu May 16, 2019 12:57 pm

Yes. Manufacturing outrage against police is the new American pastime.
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Postby Chan Island » Thu May 16, 2019 1:08 pm

If anything the media gives cops too good a rep. While working in radio stations, I've regularly spotted bulletins .... suggestive... of cops doing something bad, but because there was no video or deaths or the details weren't readily available, we'd just prioritise a bigger story instead.
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Postby West Leas Oros 2 » Thu May 16, 2019 1:11 pm

Well yes, of course they do. Got to get those readers/watchers/listeners.
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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Thu May 16, 2019 1:11 pm

Yes and no?

Sometimes they do other times they don't?

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Postby Ostroeuropa » Thu May 16, 2019 1:13 pm

Cops doing their job aren't news. It's only news when it's super cute or super nasty, and the cute stuff doesn't dominate the headlines for weeks at a time.
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Postby West Leas Oros 2 » Thu May 16, 2019 1:15 pm

Ostroeuropa wrote:Cops doing their job aren't news. It's only news when it's super cute or super nasty, and the cute stuff doesn't dominate the headlines for weeks at a time.

Well yeah. Cops are generally just normal people, that do normal people things. The media only cares when something not normal happens. No one wants to read a headline like "LOCAL MAN BUYS COFFEE, BURNS HIS TONGUE"
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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Thu May 16, 2019 1:17 pm

Ostroeuropa wrote:Cops doing their job aren't news. It's only news when it's super cute or super nasty, and the cute stuff doesn't dominate the headlines for weeks at a time.

Sadly yes beacuse bad news gets more attention then good news. Just remember no matter how much bad news there is there is always more good news.

That said I'm still on the Media's side beacuse traditional media has scholars and fact checkers.

Unlike the internets echo chambers, traditional media is less likely to have it's confirmation bias distort things into convenient half truths.

Not to say that confirmation bias doesn't exist in traditional media, it's just less likely to happen.

Also beacuse the echo chambers helped create the extreme right left split that is damaging western democracy.
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Postby Internationalist Bastard » Thu May 16, 2019 1:38 pm

No, dumbass cops who commit crimes in uniform give cops a bad name and the media reports it
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Postby Nova Cyberia » Thu May 16, 2019 1:38 pm

Internationalist Bastard wrote:No, dumbass cops who commit crimes in uniform give cops a bad name and the media reports it

The media sensationalizes it for views.
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Postby Internationalist Bastard » Thu May 16, 2019 1:39 pm

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Internationalist Bastard wrote:No, dumbass cops who commit crimes in uniform give cops a bad name and the media reports it

The media sensationalizes it for views.

Which is what they do about literally everything
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Postby Nova Cyberia » Thu May 16, 2019 1:39 pm

Internationalist Bastard wrote:
Nova Cyberia wrote:The media sensationalizes it for views.

Which is what they do about literally everything

Whataboutism.
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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Thu May 16, 2019 1:40 pm

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Internationalist Bastard wrote:No, dumbass cops who commit crimes in uniform give cops a bad name and the media reports it

The media sensationalizes it for views.


Then the dumbass cops shouldn't do dumbass things in the first place.

The media is just playing by the capitalist rule book: If it makes money, do it.

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The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Nova Cyberia wrote:The media sensationalizes it for views.


Then the dumbass cops shouldn't do dumbass things in the first place.

The media is just playing by the capitalist rule book: If it makes money, do it.

Oftentimes they didn't really do anything wrong to begin with.
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Postby Internationalist Bastard » Thu May 16, 2019 1:42 pm

Nova Cyberia wrote:
Internationalist Bastard wrote:Which is what they do about literally everything

Whataboutism.

Is it?
The media will always sensationalize shit
If a guy robs a bank, do we place most of the blame on the robber or the media reports
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Postby Internationalist Bastard » Thu May 16, 2019 1:43 pm

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The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Then the dumbass cops shouldn't do dumbass things in the first place.

The media is just playing by the capitalist rule book: If it makes money, do it.

Oftentimes they didn't really do anything wrong to begin with.

I’ll need sauce on that one hon
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Then the dumbass cops shouldn't do dumbass things in the first place.

The media is just playing by the capitalist rule book: If it makes money, do it.

Oftentimes they didn't really do anything wrong to begin with.


Eh, most of the time they are reporting on the cops who are shit and are doing bad things.

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Postby Nova Cyberia » Thu May 16, 2019 1:47 pm

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Nova Cyberia wrote:Oftentimes they didn't really do anything wrong to begin with.

I’ll need sauce on that one hon

For what? You want to reference all of the instances of cops being acquitted after a media feeding frenzy?
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Postby Nova Cyberia » Thu May 16, 2019 1:48 pm

Internationalist Bastard wrote:
Nova Cyberia wrote:Whataboutism.

Is it?
The media will always sensationalize shit
If a guy robs a bank, do we place most of the blame on the robber or the media reports

Because bank robbers aren't the ones vested with enforcing the law.
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Nova Cyberia wrote:
Internationalist Bastard wrote:Is it?
The media will always sensationalize shit
If a guy robs a bank, do we place most of the blame on the robber or the media reports

Because bank robbers aren't the ones vested with enforcing the law.

So if I have a badge I can commit a crime?
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Internationalist Bastard wrote:
Nova Cyberia wrote:Because bank robbers aren't the ones vested with enforcing the law.

So if I have a badge I can commit a crime?

No. But if you're the one responsible for enforcing the law and people keep demonizing you and making your job more difficult then I think those people who do that should be shamed.
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Internationalist Bastard wrote:I’ll need sauce on that one hon

For what? You want to reference all of the instances of cops being acquitted after a media feeding frenzy?

Yes please
Something that proves most of them are fake accusations
And I mean fake accusations not acquitted after the media stopped talking about it and nobody cared
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Nova Cyberia wrote:
Internationalist Bastard wrote:So if I have a badge I can commit a crime?

No. But if you're the one responsible for enforcing the law and people keep demonizing you and making your job more difficult then I think those people who do that should be shamed.

I agree we should shame cops who commit crimes
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