Do Cops Get A Bad Rep From The Media?

[Bombadil]

It's against the law.

What would you prefer they do? Answer the question.

I'd prefer they obey the law.

[Scomagia]

The media act more like entertainers than journalists.

The word is infotainment.

[Scomagia]

What would you prefer they do? Answer the question.

I'd prefer they obey the law.

So you aren't going to answer the question.

[Inkopolitia]

Cops get a bad rep from being cops.

So, for protecting the population?

[Bombadil]

I'd prefer they obey the law.

So you aren't going to answer the question.

I've very clearly answered the question given what obeying the law requires.

[Heloin]

Cops get a bad rep from being cops.

So, for protecting the population?

Killing unarmed people often enough that this is a thing that we have to talk about, stopping searching people for questionable reasons, stealing peoples property through abuse of civil forfeiture. I feel so much safer now.

[Scomagia]

So you aren't going to answer the question.

I've very clearly answered the question given what obeying the law requires.

No, you're evading the question I initially posed. I will rephrase.If the police have reasonable cause to detain an individual and that individual flees, what would you prefer they do if not taser the individual to bring them to a stop?

[Kowani]

Yes, of course. There's no outrage in videos or stories of cops doing their jobs competently and respectfully, hence no profit. All the profit is in showing abuse, so that gets disproportionately fed to the public to get those sweet clicks.

To be fair, there’s no reason to show that. It’s the normal state of affairs. Cops attacking everyone is out of the ordinary, and thus, shown.

Cops get a bad rep from being cops.

So, for protecting the population?

[Bombadil]

I've very clearly answered the question given what obeying the law requires.

No, you're evading the question I initially posed. I will rephrase.If the police have reasonable cause to detain an individual and that individual flees, what would you prefer they do if not taser the individual to bring them to a stop?

Are you stupid? I clearly do not prefer they taser someone running away given it's against the law.

Hell.. they don't even have to be running away, they might just be suffering from a medical emergency in a car - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7oP1WToagUA

[Inkopolitia]

So, for protecting the population?

Killing unarmed people often enough that this is a thing that we have to talk about, stopping searching people for questionable reasons, stealing peoples property through abuse of civil forfeiture. I feel so much safer now.

It's almost like this is the most extreme minority of police officers and the vast majority of the officers who do good deeds shouldn't be blamed for the actions of few... Hmm...

[Rising Palms]

The media act more like entertainers than journalists.

Pretty much this

The police and military are held to impossible standards. The media and certain categories of the public needs to stop taking an adversarial attitude towards the very people trying to protect them. If an officer asks you to stop, you stop. You do not run away, you do not become aggressive. If you disagree with the stop, submit a complaint or go through other proper legal channels.

Officers and soldiers are human beings. They are not robots that comply perfectly to unrealistic written standards. Yes, there are going to be cases where some have used more force than required. In the field, you do not get the luxury of hindsight in the present moment, you are forced to make split-second decisions based on incomplete information. That is the reality. You face abuse on a daily basis and the moment you step out of line, you will be crucified by those who haven't spent a moment of their lives in your shoes. They practically live in an alternate reality.

I am not saying that cases of police brutality should not be held accountable, but some understanding of the context of the situation is needed. If criminals and the delinquent of society are deserving of sympathy, then so are those who protect us from them. Members of the police force and military need a lot more love and understanding from society.

[A m e n r i a]

I don't know why you have to mention America. Nor do I care about some obscure foreign country I'll never set foot on anyways. In Indonesia though, cops are getting more sympathy from anyone with a brain, what with all the fundamentalists getting punished and takfiring them in return. Plus, their own show on TV kinda helps them win public opinion, so there's that.

[LiberNovusAmericae]

Killing unarmed people often enough that this is a thing that we have to talk about, stopping searching people for questionable reasons, stealing peoples property through abuse of civil forfeiture. I feel so much safer now.

It's almost like this is the most extreme minority of police officers and the vast majority of the officers who do good deeds shouldn't be blamed for the actions of few... Hmm...

Abuse of Civil Forfeiture is more common than you think. Many abuses unfortunately are not an "extreme minority."

[Ifreann]

Cops get a bad rep from being cops.

So, for protecting the population?

Sure.

[Inkopolitia]

It's almost like this is the most extreme minority of police officers and the vast majority of the officers who do good deeds shouldn't be blamed for the actions of few... Hmm...

Abuse of Civil Forfeiture is more common than you think. Many abuses unfortunately are not an "extreme minority."

Then it should be fought against and the cops who do that removed from their jobs and fined/put in jail. However, I still believe that this is not even near the majority of cops.

[Aeritai]

I don't know why you have to mention America. Nor do I care about some obscure foreign country I'll never set foot on anyways. In Indonesia though, cops are getting more sympathy from anyone with a brain, what with all the fundamentalists getting punished and takfiring them in return. Plus, their own show on TV kinda helps them win public opinion, so there's that.

I mention America since some believe that the police are hired by the government to oppress the African-American community in the United States.

[A m e n r i a]

I don't know why you have to mention America. Nor do I care about some obscure foreign country I'll never set foot on anyways. In Indonesia though, cops are getting more sympathy from anyone with a brain, what with all the fundamentalists getting punished and takfiring them in return. Plus, their own show on TV kinda helps them win public opinion, so there's that.

I mention America since some believe that the police are hired by the government to oppress the African-American community in the United States.

Is it true though?

[Aeritai]

I mention America since some believe that the police are hired by the government to oppress the African-American community in the United States.

Is it true though?

Not sure might be another crazy theory.

But there is a Twitter Group though about it
https://mobile.twitter.com/aptpaction?lang=en

[Heloin]

I mention America since some believe that the police are hired by the government to oppress the African-American community in the United States.

Is it true though?

No, but the fact the Black people in America are more likely to end up behind bars, more likely to be stopped and searched by a police officer, and more likely to be reacted with lethal force by the police doesn't help that no.

[A m e n r i a]

Is it true though?

No, but the fact the Black people in America are more likely to end up behind bars, more likely to be stopped and searched by a police officer, and more likely to be reacted with lethal force by the police doesn't help that no.

So the fault could just be in the justice system, couldn't it?

[LiberNovusAmericae]

Abuse of Civil Forfeiture is more common than you think. Many abuses unfortunately are not an "extreme minority."

Then it should be fought against and the cops who do that removed from their jobs and fined/put in jail. However, I still believe that this is not even near the majority of cops.

Probably not, but in some states, abuse of civil asset forfeiture is systematically encouraged. Especially in some areas in Texas where civil asset forfeiture pays the Assistant District Attorney's entire salary. Or in other states where it brings in big bucks for the police. We need police, and I support the hard work they have to deal with, but police reform is a must.

[Inkopolitia]

Then it should be fought against and the cops who do that removed from their jobs and fined/put in jail. However, I still believe that this is not even near the majority of cops.

Maybe not, but in some states, abuse of civil asset forfeiture is systematically encouraged. Especially in some areas in Texas where civil asset forfeiture pays the Assistant District Attorney's entire salary. Or in other states where it brings in big bucks for the police. We need police, but police reform is a must.

I never thought of it that way, but I agree.

[Heloin]

No, but the fact the Black people in America are more likely to end up behind bars, more likely to be stopped and searched by a police officer, and more likely to be reacted with lethal force by the police doesn't help that no.

So the fault could just be in the justice system, couldn't it?

Yes, the fault is the justice system, but at the very least the justice system isn't a vast conspiracy to oppress blacks.

Well hopefully it isn't a vast conspiracy, I still have some misguided faith in humanity.

[Bombadil]

I mention America since some believe that the police are hired by the government to oppress the African-American community in the United States.

Is it true though?

I mean.. not categorically but..

..federal funding is given not on how many cases are solved but how many arrests are made, this means it's far more efficient to just pick up drug dealers since they'll almost always be around.

“Current measures inadvertently incentivize unwise policy choices,” reads a report from the Brennan Center for Justice. “Federal officials ask states to report the number of arrests, but not whether the crime rate dropped. They measure the amount of cocaine seized, but not whether arrestees were screened for drug addiction. They tally the number of cases prosecuted, but not whether prosecutors reduced the number of petty crime offenders sent to prison. In short, today’s ... performance measures fail to show whether the programs it funds have achieved 'success:' improving public safety without needless social costs.”

Typically street dealers will be black. I'm not up for giving too much validity to the alleged quote by Ehrlichman about starting the War on Drugs as a means to vilify hippies and blacks but even if not the intent, it has the effect.

Just watch COPS, it's nearly always driving offences and drug offences, these are simply the easiest to make arrests on. Regardless of whether this is against minorities it's certainly against the poor.

[Aeritai]

Is it true though?

Not sure might be another crazy theory.

But there is a Twitter Group though about it
https://mobile.twitter.com/aptpaction?lang=en

According to their poster

"Police are the shock troopers of gentrifcation."

So I think this is a conspiracy going on.