Right-Wing Discussion Thread XVI: Making Things Right Again

[ECKU]

1: This is false. It's not a stranglehold, there's just certain restrictions.
2: Al-Islam is culture, and it's the only one worth preserving.

So you just admitted that you advocate the eradication of all other cultures and religions. Got it.

You're stretching waaaaay too much.

[The Xenopolis Confederation]

The phrases "carries on" and "doesn't apologize" in this context mean "institutes theocracy and exerts a strangle hold on culture."

1: This is false. It's not a stranglehold, there's just certain restrictions.
2: Al-Islam is culture, and it's the only one worth preserving.

"Al-Islam is culture," yeah, that's what I mean by "stranglehold."

[ECKU]

1: This is false. It's not a stranglehold, there's just certain restrictions.
2: Al-Islam is culture, and it's the only one worth preserving.

If you declare x to be y, you are saying that x has a stranglehold over y. You just contradicted yourself.

That makes no sense. Islamic culture is not Al-Islam having a stranglehold on another culture, it's Al-Islam having a culture all of its own. And your edited post still doesn't make sense.

[The Xenopolis Confederation]

If you declare x to be y, you are saying that x has a stranglehold over y. You just contradicted yourself.

That makes no sense. Islamic culture is not Al-Islam having a stranglehold on another culture, it's Al-Islam having a culture all of its own. And your edited post still doesn't make sense.

A religion is not a culture. The only way it can resemble a culture is by having a stranglehold upon it.

[Scomagia]

That makes no sense. Islamic culture is not Al-Islam having a stranglehold on another culture, it's Al-Islam having a culture all of its own. And your edited post still doesn't make sense.

A religion is not a culture. The only way it can resemble a culture is by having a stranglehold upon it.

A religion can be a culture. Look at Buddhism in pre PRC invasion Tibet.

[Nakena]

That makes no sense. Islamic culture is not Al-Islam having a stranglehold on another culture, it's Al-Islam having a culture all of its own. And your edited post still doesn't make sense.

A religion is not a culture. The only way it can resemble a culture is by having a stranglehold upon it.

Islam and arab culture are closely tied to each other. Theres even something that could be called "islamic" culture. It was way more than just a religion, in its broadest sense islam offers at least partial blueprints for state and society. Religion and culture (and sometimes politics) are always connected to some degree. In Islam this is specifically and strongly so the case.

[ECKU]

That makes no sense. Islamic culture is not Al-Islam having a stranglehold on another culture, it's Al-Islam having a culture all of its own. And your edited post still doesn't make sense.

A religion is not a culture. The only way it can resemble a culture is by having a stranglehold upon it.

Islamically speaking that is false. As I said before, Al-Islam has rules for just about every single aspect our lives, from putting on our shoes and socks (right side 1st), to taking them off (left side 1st), to eating (say a prayer, eat with right hand), to marriage (nikaaH), funeral (janaazah), music (nasheeds), and everything else.

[The Xenopolis Confederation]

A religion is not a culture. The only way it can resemble a culture is by having a stranglehold upon it.

A religion can be a culture. Look at Buddhism in pre PRC invasion Tibet.

It literally can't. That's like saying a book can be a film. You can however have a film based on a book, and when you do, the book's content often has a stranglehold over the film's content.

[Bread Herbert]

A religion is not a culture. The only way it can resemble a culture is by having a stranglehold upon it.

Islamically speaking that is false. As I said before, Al-Islam has rules for just about every single aspect our lives, from putting on our shoes and socks (right side 1st), to taking them off (left side 1st), to eating (say a prayer, eat with right hand), to marriage (nikaaH), funeral (janaazah), music (nasheeds), and everything else.

Sounds like that cult my cousin's friend was in before he came to his senses and left it.

[Nakena]

Islamically speaking that is false. As I said before, Al-Islam has rules for just about every single aspect our lives, from putting on our shoes and socks (right side 1st), to taking them off (left side 1st), to eating (say a prayer, eat with right hand), to marriage (nikaaH), funeral (janaazah), music (nasheeds), and everything else.

Sounds like that cult my cousin's friend was in before he came to his senses and left it.

What if that Cult had been widely more sucessfull though?

[Bread Herbert]

Sounds like that cult my cousin's friend was in before he came to his senses and left it.

What if that Cult had been widely more sucessfull though?

Luckily the leader was arrested and it disbanded for it gained more than a few dozen followers. Sadly, is one does grow then it becomes a religion, a really dangerous/oppressive religion.

[Nakena]

What if that Cult had been widely more sucessfull though?

Luckily the leader was arrested and it disbanded for it gained more than a few dozen followers. Sadly, is one does grow then it becomes a religion, a really dangerous/oppressive religion.

Which happened and still happens elsewhere with cults that have managed to gain religion status, to a point that even some *cough* people who would, given their own... proclaimed and declared ideals and ideas, have to reject it give it the benefit of the doubt or drinking the kool-aid.

Really makes one think, doesn't it?

[The Xenopolis Confederation]

A religion is not a culture. The only way it can resemble a culture is by having a stranglehold upon it.

Islamically speaking that is false. As I said before, Al-Islam has rules for just about every single aspect our lives, from putting on our shoes and socks (right side 1st), to taking them off (left side 1st), to eating (say a prayer, eat with right hand), to marriage (nikaaH), funeral (janaazah), music (nasheeds), and everything else.

God, that's horrifying. What do you think you're accomplishing by telling me this? Are you trying to make me like Islam even less than I already do?

[ECKU]

Islamically speaking that is false. As I said before, Al-Islam has rules for just about every single aspect our lives, from putting on our shoes and socks (right side 1st), to taking them off (left side 1st), to eating (say a prayer, eat with right hand), to marriage (nikaaH), funeral (janaazah), music (nasheeds), and everything else.

God, that's horrifying. What do you think you're accomplishing by telling me this? Are you trying to make me like Islam even less than I already do?

You said something incorrect about Islamic culture, I corrected you. That's what I've accomplished.

[North German Realm]

I maintain that we, the people who were smart enough to get the fuck out of Islam when we could, owe to nobody as much as people like Amin, because they teach why Islam is the horrible and not compatible with human society better than any of us ever could.

[Kowani]

Islamically speaking that is false. As I said before, Al-Islam has rules for just about every single aspect our lives, from putting on our shoes and socks (right side 1st), to taking them off (left side 1st), to eating (say a prayer, eat with right hand), to marriage (nikaaH), funeral (janaazah), music (nasheeds), and everything else.

God, that's horrifying. What do you think you're accomplishing by telling me this? Are you trying to make me like Islam even less than I already do?

You know, I’m authoritarian, and I still think that’s ridiculous.

[Washington Resistance Army]

I maintain that we, the people who were smart enough to get the fuck out of Islam when we could, owe to nobody as much as people like Amin, because they teach why Islam is the horrible and not compatible with human society better than any of us ever could.

ngl part of me still thinks his entire NSG presence is a deep cover alt-right operation to influence opinions against Islam lol

[North German Realm]

I maintain that we, the people who were smart enough to get the fuck out of Islam when we could, owe to nobody as much as people like Amin, because they teach why Islam is the horrible and not compatible with human society better than any of us ever could.

ngl part of me still thinks his entire NSG presence is a deep cover alt-right operation to influence opinions against Islam lol

I know Muslims in Iran (as well as Muslims in Syria, Iraq, and Pakistan, through my travels) who're like him. Whether he's a prolesytizer or a fake I can not say, but there are people like him, and they're a majority in any place Islam has a stranglehold on.

[Kowani]

ngl part of me still thinks his entire NSG presence is a deep cover alt-right operation to influence opinions against Islam lol

I know Muslims in Iran (as well as Muslims in Syria, Iraq, and Pakistan, through my travels) who're like him. Whether he's a prolesytizer or a fake I can not say, but there are people like him, and they're a majority in any place Islam has a stranglehold on.

There are multiple reasons to dislike religion. This is one of the foremost.

[North German Realm]

I know Muslims in Iran (as well as Muslims in Syria, Iraq, and Pakistan, through my travels) who're like him. Whether he's a prolesytizer or a fake I can not say, but there are people like him, and they're a majority in any place Islam has a stranglehold on.

There are multiple reasons to dislike religion. This is one of the foremost.

Honestly this form of zealotry is just unique to Abrahamic-based monotheism from what I have seen.

[Kowani]

There are multiple reasons to dislike religion. This is one of the foremost.

Honestly this form of zealotry is just unique to Abrahamic-based monotheism from what I have seen.

Well, Hana’s the only practicing Buddhist I know, so… Not a giant reference pool to draw from for comparison.

[Washington Resistance Army]

There are multiple reasons to dislike religion. This is one of the foremost.

Honestly this form of zealotry is just unique to Abrahamic-based monotheism from what I have seen.

This^

Maybe some Hindus too but it's not super common

[Nakena]

There are multiple reasons to dislike religion. This is one of the foremost.

Honestly this form of zealotry is just unique to Abrahamic-based monotheism from what I have seen.

Because abrahamic based monotheisim is both exclusionist and supremacist in essence and nature. It does not tolerate any Gods besides its own and it is demands submission and obedience from man.

This is unsurprisingly most true for Islam and a bit less so for christianity where things get blurry. Judaism is a tribal religion who gets all the gnostic hate from abrahamists because they're unwilling to challange their own religion. In the end a form of projected self-hatred.

[The Xenopolis Confederation]

God, that's horrifying. What do you think you're accomplishing by telling me this? Are you trying to make me like Islam even less than I already do?

You know, I’m authoritarian, and I still think that’s ridiculous.

Why would you be an authoritarian? Authority is of no inherent value :^)

[Kowani]

You know, I’m authoritarian, and I still think that’s ridiculous.

Why would you be an authoritarian? Authority is of no inherent value :^)

Parroting my own phrases back to me while missing the actual point is not a good look for you, Xeno.