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Right-Wing Discussion Thread XVI: Making Things Right Again

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Do you consider nationalism and patriotism synoymous?

Yes- I am a nationalist and a patriot
76
25%
No- I am a nationalist and a patriot
31
10%
No- I am a nationalist, not a patriot
32
11%
No- I am a patriot, not a nationalist
103
34%
Yes- I am neither a nationalist nor a patriot
13
4%
No- I am neither a nationalist nor a patriot
47
16%
 
Total votes : 302

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Postby Duhon » Thu Jul 11, 2019 10:28 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:A while back I brought up Francis Parker Yockey and Imperium and I figured it would be prudent to now ask how do you all feel about the man who inspired him, Oswald Spengler? For a few years now I've had a vague understandings of his writings but I've been diving a bit more into them as of late and I'm rather impressed by the mans thoughts. Whilst I haven't read The Decline of the West in full yet (cuz reading books online melts my eyes and I much prefer them in physical form) I've still enjoyed what I've read thus far. I wouldn't say I agree with every single thing he put on paper but some of it definitely seems prophetic.


He was full of hot air and remains so.

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The Xenopolis Confederation
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Postby The Xenopolis Confederation » Thu Jul 11, 2019 10:33 pm

Old Tyrannia wrote:
Hanafuridake wrote:
All this tells me is that I'm the reincarnation of Ikki Kita. I already knew that. :P

I'm sort of interested in hearing how other RWDT regulars would describe my philosophical/political outlook based on what they know of me, but perhaps I've been too ready to provide labels for myself for anyone to bother.

From what I've seen, your views could be loosely summarized as "Anglican British Classical Conservative."
Pro: Liberty, Liberalism, Capitalism, Secularism, Equal opportunity, Direct Democracy, Windows Chauvinism, Psychedelic Rock, LGBT+ Rights, Live and let live tbh.
Against: Authoritarianism, Traditionalism, Non-Market-Socialism, Laissez-Faire Capitalism, Autocracy, (A)Theocracy, Macs, "The ends justify the means," Collectivism in all its forms.
Economic: 0
Social: -8
NS Stats should be taken with a pinch of salt, but they're not too far off.
I'm an 18 year old Australian male* who tries to think about things but fails, as we all do. I'll regret this in 2 years tops.

*I'm sort of questioning my gender, thinking I might be gender dysphoric, so if you want, I would prefer you use she/her pronouns on me. If not, he/him'll do.

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Postby The Xenopolis Confederation » Thu Jul 11, 2019 10:35 pm

Greater Adamsia wrote:But seriously, why do other people like intoxication? Apparently it's "fun" or something? It seems more "horrifying" by my reckoning.

Moderate intoxication is supposed to create a moderate euphoric, relaxing effect. And its loosening of inhibitions is supposed to be good for having fun with friends. I've never had more than 1.2 standards drinks at a time, so I can't speak to it personally.
Pro: Liberty, Liberalism, Capitalism, Secularism, Equal opportunity, Direct Democracy, Windows Chauvinism, Psychedelic Rock, LGBT+ Rights, Live and let live tbh.
Against: Authoritarianism, Traditionalism, Non-Market-Socialism, Laissez-Faire Capitalism, Autocracy, (A)Theocracy, Macs, "The ends justify the means," Collectivism in all its forms.
Economic: 0
Social: -8
NS Stats should be taken with a pinch of salt, but they're not too far off.
I'm an 18 year old Australian male* who tries to think about things but fails, as we all do. I'll regret this in 2 years tops.

*I'm sort of questioning my gender, thinking I might be gender dysphoric, so if you want, I would prefer you use she/her pronouns on me. If not, he/him'll do.

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Postby Totally Not OEP » Thu Jul 11, 2019 10:56 pm

Greater Adamsia wrote:But seriously, why do other people like intoxication? Apparently it's "fun" or something? It seems more "horrifying" by my reckoning.


Because I'm a young male; there's nothing like getting drunk in a bar with your dudes and having a good time. Starting a bar fight is also optional fun. Plus, hey, when you need it to be Alcohol is a great way to handle emotional pain if done smartly.

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Postby Nakena » Thu Jul 11, 2019 10:58 pm

Totally Not OEP wrote:Plus, hey, when you need it to be Alcohol is a great way to handle emotional pain if done smartly.


I have a bottle of russian vodka for that purpose in storage.

I miss your wrestling avaflag. It was very... uhm... masculine ^^
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Postby Totally Not OEP » Thu Jul 11, 2019 11:29 pm

Nakena wrote:
Totally Not OEP wrote:Plus, hey, when you need it to be Alcohol is a great way to handle emotional pain if done smartly.


I have a bottle of russian vodka for that purpose in storage.

I miss your wrestling avaflag. It was very... uhm... masculine ^^


When I'm fully back on my bullshit, I'll return Stone Cold to his rightful place. As of right now, I feel like I would be dishonoring him by utilizing him as my flag.

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Postby Kowani » Fri Jul 12, 2019 1:02 am

A Midnight-Thought: Labor Unions are inherently capitalistic.
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Oh, and a Pragmatist. Somehow.
Rights are functionally just privileges society has deemed important.
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Postby Nakena » Fri Jul 12, 2019 1:09 am

Totally Not OEP wrote:
Nakena wrote:
I have a bottle of russian vodka for that purpose in storage.

I miss your wrestling avaflag. It was very... uhm... masculine ^^


When I'm fully back on my bullshit, I'll return Stone Cold to his rightful place. As of right now, I feel like I would be dishonoring him by utilizing him as my flag.


Fair enough. I get ya fam.

Kowani wrote:A Midnight-Thought: Labor Unions are inherently capitalistic.


A Morning-Thought: Kowani should go to bed.
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The Xenopolis Confederation
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Postby The Xenopolis Confederation » Fri Jul 12, 2019 1:17 am

Kowani wrote:A Midnight-Thought: Labor Unions are inherently capitalistic.

How so?
Pro: Liberty, Liberalism, Capitalism, Secularism, Equal opportunity, Direct Democracy, Windows Chauvinism, Psychedelic Rock, LGBT+ Rights, Live and let live tbh.
Against: Authoritarianism, Traditionalism, Non-Market-Socialism, Laissez-Faire Capitalism, Autocracy, (A)Theocracy, Macs, "The ends justify the means," Collectivism in all its forms.
Economic: 0
Social: -8
NS Stats should be taken with a pinch of salt, but they're not too far off.
I'm an 18 year old Australian male* who tries to think about things but fails, as we all do. I'll regret this in 2 years tops.

*I'm sort of questioning my gender, thinking I might be gender dysphoric, so if you want, I would prefer you use she/her pronouns on me. If not, he/him'll do.

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Kowani
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Postby Kowani » Fri Jul 12, 2019 1:19 am

Nakena wrote:
Kowani wrote:A Midnight-Thought: Labor Unions are inherently capitalistic.


A Morning-Thought: Kowani should go to bed.

A smart choice, but one that I will not heed.

The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:
Kowani wrote:A Midnight-Thought: Labor Unions are inherently capitalistic.

How so?

Markets.
Narcissistic (Hedonistic) Nihilist. Yes, I am edgy. I know.
Dorgival R. Seč of the NS Parliament!
Atheist and still proud of it. Technophile to the extreme.
Post-Capitalist, Post-Nationalist. Go beyond.
Oh, and a Pragmatist. Somehow.
Rights are functionally just privileges society has deemed important.
Neanderthaland wrote:
Christian Confederation wrote:Contraception can't fail if you don't have sex in term no unwanted pregnancy.

Your entire religion is based on the idea that this isn't true.

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Postby The Xenopolis Confederation » Fri Jul 12, 2019 1:32 am

Kowani wrote:
Nakena wrote:


A Morning-Thought: Kowani should go to bed.

A smart choice, but one that I will not heed.

The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:How so?

Markets.

Can't you have unions without markets? And for that matter, can't you have markets without private property?
Pro: Liberty, Liberalism, Capitalism, Secularism, Equal opportunity, Direct Democracy, Windows Chauvinism, Psychedelic Rock, LGBT+ Rights, Live and let live tbh.
Against: Authoritarianism, Traditionalism, Non-Market-Socialism, Laissez-Faire Capitalism, Autocracy, (A)Theocracy, Macs, "The ends justify the means," Collectivism in all its forms.
Economic: 0
Social: -8
NS Stats should be taken with a pinch of salt, but they're not too far off.
I'm an 18 year old Australian male* who tries to think about things but fails, as we all do. I'll regret this in 2 years tops.

*I'm sort of questioning my gender, thinking I might be gender dysphoric, so if you want, I would prefer you use she/her pronouns on me. If not, he/him'll do.

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Kowani
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Postby Kowani » Fri Jul 12, 2019 1:39 am

The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:
Kowani wrote:A smart choice, but one that I will not heed.


Markets.

Can't you have unions without markets? And for that matter, can't you have markets without private property?

Not what I’m talking about. Rather, the unions provide a market function, that is, the negotiation of the price of a service (the labor of the workers) between the workers and the Capitalist that employs them. Under a socialistic system, you wouldn’t really need unions, since the workers would own the means of production, and could therefore come to agreements within themselves about production processes.
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Dorgival R. Seč of the NS Parliament!
Atheist and still proud of it. Technophile to the extreme.
Post-Capitalist, Post-Nationalist. Go beyond.
Oh, and a Pragmatist. Somehow.
Rights are functionally just privileges society has deemed important.
Neanderthaland wrote:
Christian Confederation wrote:Contraception can't fail if you don't have sex in term no unwanted pregnancy.

Your entire religion is based on the idea that this isn't true.

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Postby Old Tyrannia » Fri Jul 12, 2019 1:45 am

Kowani wrote:A Midnight-Thought: Labor Unions are inherently capitalistic.

Unions can exist only in capitalist economies, true, but that's because they are created for the purpose of ameliorating the conditions of workers in a capitalist economy. That doesn't make them "capitalistic" any more than the civil rights movement was "racist" because it would have been unnecessary in a non-racist society.
The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:Can't you have unions without markets?

Hypothetically, yes. There are public sector unions, after all. If the whole economy was controlled by the government as in state socialist systems, you could feasibly still have representative workers' bodies for the purposes of collective negotiations on wages and working conditions- though ironically enough most state socialist countries have banned labour unions in practice.
And for that matter, can't you have markets without private property?

Again, yes, although under a market socialist economic system there'd be no need for unions since workers would own and operate the means of production collectively along democratic lines. In effect, the unions would be in control of the industries.
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Postby Nea Byzantia » Fri Jul 12, 2019 5:10 am

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
They're certainly not, but only one of them's actually trying to indoctrinate anyone, and it's not the LGBTQ+.


Disagree. The education system is all about indoctrination, and it's skew in most areas towards liberalism and support of such things certainly fits the definition. You lot just happen to be better at pushing your agenda in the system than the fundies, which is equally parts sad and amusing.

I mean the fundies are successful when it comes to pushing their foreign policy on the system (ie. support of Israel, wars in the Middle East, etc.)

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Postby Nea Byzantia » Fri Jul 12, 2019 5:55 am

Nakena wrote:
Totally Not OEP wrote:Plus, hey, when you need it to be Alcohol is a great way to handle emotional pain if done smartly.


I have a bottle of russian vodka for that purpose in storage.

I miss your wrestling avaflag. It was very... uhm... masculine ^^

Being a patriotic Greek, I have a bottle of Metaxa for the same purpose...
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Postby Fahran » Fri Jul 12, 2019 7:29 am

Old Tyrannia wrote:
Fahran wrote:My summary of your political ideas is as follows: Sir Francis Bryan. :p

You really think I'm some sort of rakish libertine who conforms his opinions to those of his superiors? I don't think that's true at all.

It's not. I was teasing you a bit, though I was perhaps a bit too on the nose.

In reality, I tend to perceive you as a High Tory and quasi-Jacobite.

Greater Adamsia wrote:But seriously, why do other people like intoxication? Apparently it's "fun" or something? It seems more "horrifying" by my reckoning.

A little wine in moderation, in accompaniment with a meal, is often pleasant. It can contribute to a richer blend of flavors in the first case and, in social settings, it can serve as a lubricant of conversation, especially with someone as shy and mousy as myself. Alcohol can serve religious functions as well and, while Judaism usually precludes drunkenness or excess, there is at least one situation where it is a mitzvot to imbibe alcohol to the point of drunkenness, albeit with a mind to spiritual and historical matters and not to debauchery.
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Postby Hanafuridake » Fri Jul 12, 2019 10:51 am

Washington Resistance Army wrote:A while back I brought up Francis Parker Yockey and Imperium and I figured it would be prudent to now ask how do you all feel about the man who inspired him, Oswald Spengler? For a few years now I've had a vague understandings of his writings but I've been diving a bit more into them as of late and I'm rather impressed by the mans thoughts. Whilst I haven't read The Decline of the West in full yet (cuz reading books online melts my eyes and I much prefer them in physical form) I've still enjoyed what I've read thus far. I wouldn't say I agree with every single thing he put on paper but some of it definitely seems prophetic.


He was very insightful and far reaching, Decline of the West and The Hour of Decision were both really good, but Prussianism and Socialism was Spengler at his weakest, since he relied on national stereotypes and brief historical examples to try and argue that certain traits were exclusive to nationalities. His criticism of Romanticism was on point.
Hour of Decision wrote:Oh, they were heroes, and noble, and ready to be martyrs at any moment; but they talked too much about German nature and too little about railways and customs unions, and thus became only an obstacle in the way of Germany's real future. Did they ever so much as hear the name of the great Friedrich List, who committed suicide in 1846 because no one understood and supported his far-sighted and modern political aim, the building of an economic Germany? But they all knew the names of Arminius and Thusnelda.
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Postby The Supreme Magnificent High Swaglord » Fri Jul 12, 2019 10:52 am

Hanafuridake wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:A while back I brought up Francis Parker Yockey and Imperium and I figured it would be prudent to now ask how do you all feel about the man who inspired him, Oswald Spengler? For a few years now I've had a vague understandings of his writings but I've been diving a bit more into them as of late and I'm rather impressed by the mans thoughts. Whilst I haven't read The Decline of the West in full yet (cuz reading books online melts my eyes and I much prefer them in physical form) I've still enjoyed what I've read thus far. I wouldn't say I agree with every single thing he put on paper but some of it definitely seems prophetic.


He was very insightful and far reaching, Decline of the West and The Hour of Decision were both really good, but Prussianism and Socialism was Spengler at his weakest, since he relied on national stereotypes and brief historical examples to try and argue that certain traits were exclusive to nationalities. His criticism of Romanticism was on point.
Hour of Decision wrote:Oh, they were heroes, and noble, and ready to be martyrs at any moment; but they talked too much about German nature and too little about railways and customs unions, and thus became only an obstacle in the way of Germany's real future. Did they ever so much as hear the name of the great Friedrich List, who committed suicide in 1846 because no one understood and supported his far-sighted and modern political aim, the building of an economic Germany? But they all knew the names of Arminius and Thusnelda.


If I am allowed to make a confession, I have not delved into Spengler yet.
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If people regarded other people’s states in the same way that they regard their own, who then would incite their own state to attack that of another? For one would do for others as one would do for oneself.
If people regarded other people’s cities in the same way that they regard their own, who then would incite their own city to attack that of another? For one would do for others as one would do for oneself.
If people regarded other people’s families in the same way that they regard their own, who then would incite their own family to attack that of another? For one would do for others as one would do for oneself.

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Postby The Supreme Magnificent High Swaglord » Fri Jul 12, 2019 10:55 am

Fahran wrote:
Old Tyrannia wrote:You really think I'm some sort of rakish libertine who conforms his opinions to those of his superiors? I don't think that's true at all.

It's not. I was teasing you a bit, though I was perhaps a bit too on the nose.

In reality, I tend to perceive you as a High Tory and quasi-Jacobite.

Greater Adamsia wrote:But seriously, why do other people like intoxication? Apparently it's "fun" or something? It seems more "horrifying" by my reckoning.

A little wine in moderation, in accompaniment with a meal, is often pleasant. It can contribute to a richer blend of flavors in the first case and, in social settings, it can serve as a lubricant of conversation, especially with someone as shy and mousy as myself. Alcohol can serve religious functions as well and, while Judaism usually precludes drunkenness or excess, there is at least one situation where it is a mitzvot to imbibe alcohol to the point of drunkenness, albeit with a mind to spiritual and historical matters and not to debauchery.


The way I see it, however, drunkenness leads to the debauched. If I may, and I recognize that this may seem overly stern or strict, but I view alcohol as like a demon in a bottle, like a corrupting influence that leads one astray from what is prudent and good.
<THE HIGH SWAGLORD>
If people regarded other people’s states in the same way that they regard their own, who then would incite their own state to attack that of another? For one would do for others as one would do for oneself.
If people regarded other people’s cities in the same way that they regard their own, who then would incite their own city to attack that of another? For one would do for others as one would do for oneself.
If people regarded other people’s families in the same way that they regard their own, who then would incite their own family to attack that of another? For one would do for others as one would do for oneself.

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Postby Greater Adamsia » Fri Jul 12, 2019 12:31 pm

So, if utopian socialist, authoritarian corporatist, and secular theocrat don't work to describe me, what will? :unsure:

Y'all have it easier than me, it seems; y'all have reasonably easy-to-describe ideological leanings...
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The Republic of Adamsia was founded on the shores of Massachusetts Bay by the Puritans as a new Zion, as a
theocratic utopia in the wilderness of New England. Adamsia has a culture that emphasizes duty, and stresses the good of the
community even if (and especially if) it requires individual self-abnegation. The majority of Puritan settlers in early Adamsians
were educated to some degree; as such, Adamsian culture has a generally "bourgeois" ethos and immense respect for
intellectual achievement. While in modern times, religiosity and spirituality has waned somewhat, the zealous drive to achieve
social and moral perfection has oft been labeled as "secular Puritanism" by detractors.

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Postby Kowani » Fri Jul 12, 2019 12:38 pm

Greater Adamsia wrote:So, if utopian socialist, authoritarian corporatist, and secular theocrat don't work to describe me, what will? :unsure:

Y'all have it easier than me, it seems; y'all have reasonably easy-to-describe ideological leanings...

Yeah, I wouldn’t talk overmuch about impossible to define ideological ideas…

But. I think utopian technocrat, for you.
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Post-Capitalist, Post-Nationalist. Go beyond.
Oh, and a Pragmatist. Somehow.
Rights are functionally just privileges society has deemed important.
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Postby Hanafuridake » Fri Jul 12, 2019 1:00 pm

Greater Adamsia wrote:So, if utopian socialist, authoritarian corporatist, and secular theocrat don't work to describe me, what will? :unsure:

Y'all have it easier than me, it seems; y'all have reasonably easy-to-describe ideological leanings...


Given a lot of your political ideas seem novel or heterogeneous, I'd recommend writing some sort of manifesto before you worry about labels.
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Postby Akum » Fri Jul 12, 2019 1:26 pm

I cannot consider myself a nationalist for the country I reside in, as I feel no huge attachment to it but rather for a place that was once my home long ago and which I prefer to be in whenever I get a chance to visit it. When I move there, whenever that may be, I would be a nationalist for that country.

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Postby Greater Adamsia » Fri Jul 12, 2019 2:42 pm

Hanafuridake wrote:
Greater Adamsia wrote:So, if utopian socialist, authoritarian corporatist, and secular theocrat don't work to describe me, what will? :unsure:

Y'all have it easier than me, it seems; y'all have reasonably easy-to-describe ideological leanings...


Given a lot of your political ideas seem novel or heterogeneous, I'd recommend writing some sort of manifesto before you worry about labels.


Believe me, I tried. But sadly, I’m not satisfied with the quality of my writing, and whenever I crank out new material, I feel the urge to delete it. I have plenty of ideas, but when I try to write them down, they... erm... turn to mush, perhaps? Also, I can’t think of a title... Principia Harmonia? Neo-Mohism in Theory and Practice? On the Obliteration of the Self? Saint-Simonian Technocracy for Dummies? Seriously, thinking of a good title is hard.
<THE REPUBLIC OF ADAMSIA>
The Republic of Adamsia was founded on the shores of Massachusetts Bay by the Puritans as a new Zion, as a
theocratic utopia in the wilderness of New England. Adamsia has a culture that emphasizes duty, and stresses the good of the
community even if (and especially if) it requires individual self-abnegation. The majority of Puritan settlers in early Adamsians
were educated to some degree; as such, Adamsian culture has a generally "bourgeois" ethos and immense respect for
intellectual achievement. While in modern times, religiosity and spirituality has waned somewhat, the zealous drive to achieve
social and moral perfection has oft been labeled as "secular Puritanism" by detractors.

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Postby Hanafuridake » Fri Jul 12, 2019 5:46 pm

Greater Adamsia wrote:On the Obliteration of the Self?


You mention this a lot, but I can't see how destroying the self would be fulfilling or moral.
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