Right-Wing Discussion Thread XVI: Making Things Right Again

[Jolthig]

I can’t speak to your particular city, but faith schools tend to either be ways to avoid having to have your kids learn evolution/sit with black kids/get indoctrinated by the government/learn that other religions exist/learn sex ed, etc. (And from what I know, they’re not always particularly good, but I could be wrong on that.)


Yeah, I think we all know where I stand on this.

You must have gone to a fundamentalist school, because I was taught evolution and sat next to multiple black kids during my times in private schools. I think the only thing we didn’t go into much out of that list was sex ed., but even then we talked about things like periods, pregnancy, bodily changes, etc. In my state at least, a lot of private schools are fantastic, and far superior to our abysmal public school system. Catholic schools are historically known for providing a high standard of education, as well, hence why even non-Catholics have sent their kids to private schools in many places.

Kowani is from Spain to elaborate.

[Washington Resistance Army]

Alexander is indisputably the greatest monarch and if you disagree you'll get rekt by phalanx and companion cavalry.

Look inside yourself CM and you'll realize all Roman leaders wanted to be Alexander.

[Conserative Morality]

Look inside yourself CM and you'll realize all Roman leaders wanted to be Alexander.

They just wanted that sweet Persian land.

[Hanafuridake]

Alexander is indisputably the greatest monarch and if you disagree you'll get rekt by phalanx and companion cavalry.

His empire and cult died about five minutes after he did.

[Holy Roman Empires2]

See, from ahistorical perspective, that’s not true at all. Recent Case.
No, but it is his fault for helping them feel like they’re not crazy, which leads to them doing things. And let’s not forget his rhetoric.
Yeah, that’s working out great for hi-oh, god no. It’s been an unmitigated disaster for everyone.
Yes, alienation Of your allies is a good strategy.
Really Not what I meant.

Yes, the statements by the President are clearly just supposed to be ignored. Of course, dehumanizing people has well documented effects, but no. TDS, right?

I know the Kansas experiment. But, how can you allow one state tax cut, to undermine regan, tatcher...

? What? Do you mean establishing mental asylums for the crazies, or....


Do you mean him DESTROYING the Republican party machine? Along with the Democrats?

I didn't mean that. They take ONE tweet, and talk about it for days.

[Washington Resistance Army]

I'd argue for someone of your political persuasion the rise of the far-right in the western world is a good thing. Whilst you're not among their number a growing trend of extremism will strain the system and if society keeps rushing both further left and right respectively it'll eventually collapse in on itself, at which point the canvas will be much easier to paint your desired image on. Without some sort of a hard reset someone like you will never truly have a chance to implement their ideas in full.

Yeah, no.

iirc Kowani has admitted his desired end goals aren't possible without a rather great deal of upheaval and suffering first. At least from my perspective his fully automated luxury state would be easier to bring to fruition if society fell into general freefall ASAP rather than letting the capitalist class further monopolize the means of automation and strip even more power and wealth away from the average person.

Alexander is indisputably the greatest monarch and if you disagree you'll get rekt by phalanx and companion cavalry.

His empire and cult died about five minutes after he did.

But it was the greatest reign and you know it.

[El-Amin Caliphate]

Do you mean establishing mental asylums for the crazies

Dude this isn't the 1950s. That's not how we talk about mentally ill people.

[Kowani]

I can’t speak to your particular city, but faith schools tend to either be ways to avoid having to have your kids learn evolution/sit with black kids/get indoctrinated by the government/learn that other religions exist/learn sex ed, etc. (And from what I know, they’re not always particularly good, but I could be wrong on that.)

Wait, wait hang on what, faith schools indoctrinating students on behalf of the government? I think you may be confusing faith schools with public schools on that point because generally the Church and the liberal political system are at odds. I feel like a lot of your views on faith schools is the Billy Bob Backwoods Bible school because that is no where near what I have experienced. Funny enough the faith schools are the most integrated schools in my area because they bridge the urban, suburban, and rural gap. I didn't know the parochial education system was so different in Spain.

Oh, we don’t have the “no black kids” thing, because well-almost no black people. Thankfully, we didn’t have the evolution debate, at least in cities. In the pueblos it’s a bit different. However, it was only after I came to America that I found the majority of things I mentioned. Religious schools back in Spain are under a great obligation to separate the Bible and scientific fact, thankfully, because the State will jump on them otherwise. Even the after school religious clubs spend weeks explaining that you can’t take the Bible literally.

However, I’m also from Andalucía, with a very bad poverty problem, so things tend to slip through the cracks.

[Kowani]

Yes, the statements by the President are clearly just supposed to be ignored. Of course, dehumanizing people has well documented effects, but no. TDS, right?

I know the Kansas experiment. But, how can you allow one state tax cut, to undermine regan, thatcher...

For one thing, those didn’t work either.

? What? Do you mean establishing mental asylums for the crazies, or....

No. I mean enabling rhetoric.

Do you mean him DESTROYING the Republican party machine? Along with the Democrats?

No. Allow me to ask you a question: What does the GOP do when Trump’s gone?

I didn't mean that. They take ONE tweet, and talk about it for days.

Perhaps it might be that those tweets have things of particular relevance?

Yeah, no.

iirc Kowani has admitted his desired end goals aren't possible without a rather great deal of upheaval and suffering first. At least from my perspective his fully automated luxury state would be easier to bring to fruition if society fell into general freefall ASAP rather than letting the capitalist class further monopolize the means of automation and strip even more power and wealth away from the average person.

I see no reason to not allow them to do the work of automation for me. That sets an easier ground for to transition beyond capitalism than a societal freefall which has the very high chance of ending some of the ideals that I would like to see survive. The automation unrest would bring about the death of some ideas that I would very much like to see dead.

[Holy Roman Empires2]

Do you mean establishing mental asylums for the crazies

Dude this isn't the 1950s. That's not how we talk about mentally ill people.

That didnt come out how I wanted it to. I apologize

[El-Amin Caliphate]

Wait, wait hang on what, faith schools indoctrinating students on behalf of the government? I think you may be confusing faith schools with public schools on that point because generally the Church and the liberal political system are at odds. I feel like a lot of your views on faith schools is the Billy Bob Backwoods Bible school because that is no where near what I have experienced. Funny enough the faith schools are the most integrated schools in my area because they bridge the urban, suburban, and rural gap. I didn't know the parochial education system was so different in Spain.

Oh, we don’t have the “no black kids” thing, because well-almost no black people. Thankfully, we didn’t have the evolution debate, at least in cities. In the pueblos it’s a bit different. However, it was only after I came to America that I found the majority of things I mentioned. Religious schools back in Spain are under a great obligation to separate the Bible and scientific fact, thankfully, because the State will jump on them otherwise. Even the after school religious clubs spend weeks explaining that you can’t take the Bible literally.

However, I’m also from Andalucía, with a very bad poverty problem, so things tend to slip through the cracks.

Andalucía

Did someone say الأَنْدَلُس؟

[El-Amin Caliphate]

Dude this isn't the 1950s. That's not how we talk about mentally ill people.

That didnt come out how I wanted it to. I apologize

It's ok

[Hanafuridake]

I didn't mean that. They take ONE tweet, and talk about it for days.

Because there's the president of the United States making official declarations and threats, many times without consulting anyone else first (such as the transgender military ban). Are you seriously suggesting that the news should ignore the president making statements just because they're on social media, even though that's a serious part of his MO?

[Kowani]

Oh, we don’t have the “no black kids” thing, because well-almost no black people. Thankfully, we didn’t have the evolution debate, at least in cities. In the pueblos it’s a bit different. However, it was only after I came to America that I found the majority of things I mentioned. Religious schools back in Spain are under a great obligation to separate the Bible and scientific fact, thankfully, because the State will jump on them otherwise. Even the after school religious clubs spend weeks explaining that you can’t take the Bible literally.

However, I’m also from Andalucía, with a very bad poverty problem, so things tend to slip through the cracks.

Andalucía

Did someone say الأَنْدَلُس؟

Ironically, I’m from Granada, the last Muslim kingdom on the Peninsula.

[Camelone]

Wait, wait hang on what, faith schools indoctrinating students on behalf of the government? I think you may be confusing faith schools with public schools on that point because generally the Church and the liberal political system are at odds. I feel like a lot of your views on faith schools is the Billy Bob Backwoods Bible school because that is no where near what I have experienced. Funny enough the faith schools are the most integrated schools in my area because they bridge the urban, suburban, and rural gap. I didn't know the parochial education system was so different in Spain.

Oh, we don’t have the “no black kids” thing, because well-almost no black people. Thankfully, we didn’t have the evolution debate, at least in cities. In the pueblos it’s a bit different. However, it was only after I came to America that I found the majority of things I mentioned. Religious schools back in Spain are under a great obligation to separate the Bible and scientific fact, thankfully, because the State will jump on them otherwise. Even the after school religious clubs spend weeks explaining that you can’t take the Bible literally.

However, I’m also from Andalucía, with a very bad poverty problem, so things tend to slip through the cracks.

I never really got the whole reason for the whole evolution debate anyways it is the best of our scientific theories to explain the natural processes and the Bible being the revealed word of God the question should be 'what is the truth from this revelation and why did God reveal it this way?' It's not a super big deal, for me anyways plus I don't see the conflict when you frame the question in this way anyways.

If you do not mind me asking but did you attend a faith school in America and if so what type is it? I attended a public school and the only good thing that came from it was that I have close friends from there, everything I pretty much self taught myself because it was so inefficient and well slow.

[Jolthig]

Did someone say الأَنْدَلُس؟

Ironically, I’m from Granada, the last Muslim kingdom on the Peninsula.

Ooooo nice.

[Salus Maior]

Ironically, I’m from Granada, the last Muslim kingdom on the Peninsula.

Thankfully it didn't remain so, and it was liberated.

[Jolthig]

Ironically, I’m from Granada, the last Muslim kingdom on the Peninsula.

Thankfully it didn't remain so, and it was liberated.

And then came the Great Inquisition.

[El-Amin Caliphate]

Ironically, I’m from Granada, the last Muslim kingdom on the Peninsula.

Thankfully it didn't remain so, and it was liberated.

It was good while it lasted tho....in most instances anyway
Man it'd be great if Muslim rule could return to Al-Andalus.

[Salus Maior]

Thankfully it didn't remain so, and it was liberated.

And then came the Great Inquisition.

Sure did.

[Salus Maior]

Thankfully it didn't remain so, and it was liberated.

It was good while it lasted tho....in most instances anyway
Man it'd be great if Muslim rule could return to Al-Andalus.

Thankfully, it never will.

[El-Amin Caliphate]

Thankfully it didn't remain so, and it was liberated.

And then came the Great Inquisition.

Yeah, I wouldn't call cultural and religious genocide and ethnic clesnsing a "liberation"...

[Washington Resistance Army]

Thankfully it didn't remain so, and it was liberated.

And then came the Great Inquisition.

tbh the Inquisition is pretty overrated compared to other older Christian actions

[Kowani]

Oh, we don’t have the “no black kids” thing, because well-almost no black people. Thankfully, we didn’t have the evolution debate, at least in cities. In the pueblos it’s a bit different. However, it was only after I came to America that I found the majority of things I mentioned. Religious schools back in Spain are under a great obligation to separate the Bible and scientific fact, thankfully, because the State will jump on them otherwise. Even the after school religious clubs spend weeks explaining that you can’t take the Bible literally.

However, I’m also from Andalucía, with a very bad poverty problem, so things tend to slip through the cracks.

I never really got the whole reason for the whole evolution debate anyways it is the best of our scientific theories to explain the natural processes and the Bible being the revealed word of God the question should be 'what is the truth from this revelation and why did God reveal it this way?' It's not a super big deal, for me anyways plus I don't see the conflict when you frame the question in this way anyways.

If you do not mind me asking but did you attend a faith school in America and if so what type is it? I attended a public school and the only good thing that came from it was that I have close friends from there, everything I pretty much self taught myself because it was so inefficient and well slow.

Don’t ask me to understand religious fundamentalist mentality, ‘cause that’s not happening.

I did not. I attend a local public high school, since my father thought that I should get used to larger class sizes. My youngest brother, on the other hand… Mind you, my school is apparently pretty good (definitely better than my last one), and although I can’t speak to your last school, your culprits would be probably be lack of funding, CollegeBoard, and CommonCore.

[Jolthig]

And then came the Great Inquisition.

Sure did.

So...are you saying it was somehow justified?

And then came the Great Inquisition.

tbh the Inquisition is pretty overrated compared to other older Christian actions

Well, in this case it isn't, since we are discussing post-Islamic rule in Spain.

And then came the Great Inquisition.

Yeah, I wouldn't call cultural and religious genocide and ethnic clesnsing a "liberation"...

Agreed.