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Do you consider nationalism and patriotism synoymous?

Yes- I am a nationalist and a patriot
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26%
No- I am a nationalist and a patriot
52
12%
No- I am a nationalist, not a patriot
43
10%
No- I am a patriot, not a nationalist
147
33%
Yes- I am neither a nationalist nor a patriot
18
4%
No- I am neither a nationalist nor a patriot
68
15%
 
Total votes : 443
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Postby Nea Byzantia » Wed Jul 31, 2019 11:01 am

LiberNovusAmericae wrote:
Novus America wrote:See the bigger issue becomes saying THE JEWS influenced the Bolsheviks vs SOME Jews did.
“The Jews” is not an entity capable of making collective decisions.

I'm sure that if the Jews were the ones behind Bolshevism itself, and did so to engage in a Jewish conspiracy, they probably would have retained control of the party and prevented antisemites like Stalin from rising. Later Soviet history is important here.

Stalin wasn't an anti-semite, though.
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Postby Nova Cyberia » Wed Jul 31, 2019 11:05 am

Nea Byzantia wrote:
LiberNovusAmericae wrote:I'm sure that if the Jews were the ones behind Bolshevism itself, and did so to engage in a Jewish conspiracy, they probably would have retained control of the party and prevented antisemites like Stalin from rising. Later Soviet history is important here.

Stalin wasn't an anti-semite, though.

Lol

Ever heard of the Doctors Conspiracy?

Stalin was very much an anti-Semite and post-WW2 was planning a purge of the Jews. His death thankfully prevented this.
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Postby Bear Stearns » Wed Jul 31, 2019 11:06 am

GUYS IM GONNA SAY IT


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Postby Nea Byzantia » Wed Jul 31, 2019 11:07 am

Nova Cyberia wrote:
Nea Byzantia wrote:Stalin wasn't an anti-semite, though.

Lol

Ever heard of the Doctors Conspiracy?

Stalin was very much an anti-Semite and post-WW2 was planning a purge of the Jews. His death thankfully prevented this.

Stalin purged those around him who he felt was a threat - if you're saying he was planning to "purge the Jews", maybe that's because a lot of the powerful people surrounding him were Jews.
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Postby Nova Cyberia » Wed Jul 31, 2019 11:09 am

Nea Byzantia wrote:
Nova Cyberia wrote:Lol

Ever heard of the Doctors Conspiracy?

Stalin was very much an anti-Semite and post-WW2 was planning a purge of the Jews. His death thankfully prevented this.

Stalin purged those around him who he felt was a threat - if you're saying he was planning to "purge the Jews", maybe that's because a lot of the powerful people surrounding him were Jews.

Perhaps you should read this then.

The same paranoia that consumed Hitler about the Jews was also consuming Stalin.
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Postby Nova Cyberia » Wed Jul 31, 2019 11:10 am

Bear Stearns wrote:GUYS IM GONNA SAY IT


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oh lawd
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Postby Bear Stearns » Wed Jul 31, 2019 11:11 am

Nova Cyberia wrote:
Bear Stearns wrote:GUYS IM GONNA SAY IT


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oh lawd


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Postby Nakena » Wed Jul 31, 2019 11:12 am

Bear Stearns wrote:GUYS IM GONNA SAY IT


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Postby LiberNovusAmericae » Wed Jul 31, 2019 11:15 am

Nea Byzantia wrote:
LiberNovusAmericae wrote:I'm sure that if the Jews were the ones behind Bolshevism itself, and did so to engage in a Jewish conspiracy, they probably would have retained control of the party and prevented antisemites like Stalin from rising. Later Soviet history is important here.

Stalin wasn't an anti-semite, though.

Stalin's state engaged in state sponsored antisemitism, and there were fears of an antisemitic purge.
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Postby Nea Byzantia » Wed Jul 31, 2019 11:17 am

LiberNovusAmericae wrote:
Nea Byzantia wrote:Stalin wasn't an anti-semite, though.

Stalin's state engaged in state sponsored antisemitism, and there were fears of an antisemitic purge.

You used exactly the same article as the other guy...I guess both of you like Ken Kalfus.
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Postby LiberNovusAmericae » Wed Jul 31, 2019 11:20 am

Nea Byzantia wrote:

You used exactly the same article as the other guy...I guess both of you like Ken Kalfus.

I didn't notice that as my internet went down for five minutes. It took forever to submit my post.
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Postby Nova Cyberia » Wed Jul 31, 2019 11:22 am

Nea Byzantia wrote:

You used exactly the same article as the other guy...I guess both of you like Ken Kalfus.

This just means he's also big brain-tier.
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Postby LiberNovusAmericae » Wed Jul 31, 2019 11:27 am

Wow, this thread is almost done!
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Postby The Grand Duchy Of Nova Capile » Wed Jul 31, 2019 11:28 am

Well, the Und Doch trend lasted about a day.
Capilean News (Updated 16 November)
Where is the horse gone? Where the warrior?
Where is the treasure-giver? Where are the seats at the feast?
Where are the revels in the hall?
Alas for the bright cup! Alas for the mailed warrior!
Alas for the splendour of the prince!
How that time has passed away, dark under the cover of night, as if it never were.
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Postby Nea Byzantia » Wed Jul 31, 2019 11:28 am

LiberNovusAmericae wrote:Wow, this thread is almost done!

What a way to end it...
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Postby LiberNovusAmericae » Wed Jul 31, 2019 11:29 am

The Grand Duchy Of Nova Capile wrote:Well, the Und Doch trend lasted about a day.

There will be more trends to come.

Nea Byzantia wrote:
LiberNovusAmericae wrote:Wow, this thread is almost done!

What a way to end it...

Not an end, but a new beginning.
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Postby Nea Byzantia » Wed Jul 31, 2019 11:31 am

LiberNovusAmericae wrote:
The Grand Duchy Of Nova Capile wrote:Well, the Und Doch trend lasted about a day.

There will be more trends to come.

Nea Byzantia wrote:What a way to end it...

Not an end, but a new beginning.

We will meet again in the Next Life Thread...
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Postby LiberNovusAmericae » Wed Jul 31, 2019 11:32 am

Nea Byzantia wrote:
LiberNovusAmericae wrote:There will be more trends to come.


Not an end, but a new beginning.

We will meet again in the Next Life Thread...

Who shall be the next OP?
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Postby Nova Cyberia » Wed Jul 31, 2019 11:33 am

LiberNovusAmericae wrote:
Nea Byzantia wrote:We will meet again in the Next Life Thread...

Who shall be the next OP?

I vote for GM.
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Postby Nea Byzantia » Wed Jul 31, 2019 11:33 am

LiberNovusAmericae wrote:
Nea Byzantia wrote:We will meet again in the Next Life Thread...

Who shall be the next OP?

Remains to be seen...But its still a little early for that.
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Postby Nea Byzantia » Wed Jul 31, 2019 11:33 am

Nova Cyberia wrote:
LiberNovusAmericae wrote:Who shall be the next OP?

I vote for GM.

Who?
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Postby Novus America » Wed Jul 31, 2019 11:34 am

LiberNovusAmericae wrote:
The Grand Duchy Of Nova Capile wrote:Well, the Und Doch trend lasted about a day.

There will be more trends to come.

Nea Byzantia wrote:What a way to end it...

Not an end, but a new beginning.


Hopefully the new beginning is much better than this end.
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Zombie Ike/Teddy Roosevelt 2020.

Novus America represents my vision of an awesome Atompunk near future United States of America expanded to the entire North American continent, Guyana and the Philippines. The population would be around 700 million.
Think something like prewar Fallout, minus the bad stuff.

Politically I am an independent. I support what is good for the country, which means I cannot support either party.
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Postby LiberNovusAmericae » Wed Jul 31, 2019 11:35 am

Nea Byzantia wrote:
Nova Cyberia wrote:I vote for GM.

Who?

Great Minarchistan I think.
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Postby Nea Byzantia » Wed Jul 31, 2019 11:35 am

Novus America wrote:
LiberNovusAmericae wrote:There will be more trends to come.


Not an end, but a new beginning.


Hopefully the new beginning is much better than this end.

Be careful what you wish for :p ...
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Postby Nova Cyberia » Wed Jul 31, 2019 11:35 am

Nea Byzantia wrote:
Nova Cyberia wrote:I vote for GM.

Who?

Great Minarchistan.
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