Right-Wing Discussion Thread XVI: Making Things Right Again

[Salus Maior]

Friendly reminder of the need to restore the Inquisition, Christian Jizya on non-believers, and a new Janissary Corps.

Doing that would require abolishing the first amendment, and if you want to abolish the first amendment, you hate America. Simple as that.

Well, I'm not a fan of America and I don't want to do that.

Well, maybe the Inquisition. But only on the clergy.

[Totally Not OEP]

Friendly reminder of the need to restore the Inquisition, Christian Jizya on non-believers, and a new Janissary Corps.

Doing that would require abolishing the first amendment, and if you want to abolish the first amendment, you hate America. Simple as that.

It's been awhile, United States of Canada and Jesusland.

[Kowani]

Friendly reminder of the need to restore the Inquisition, Christian Jizya on non-believers, and a new Janissary Corps.

Doing that would require abolishing the first amendment, and if you want to abolish the first amendment, you hate America. Simple as that.

I refer to you the Alien and Sedition Acts. I very much don’t that James Madison, one of the fucking framers of the Constitution hated America.

[Novus America]

Doing that would require abolishing the first amendment, and if you want to abolish the first amendment, you hate America. Simple as that.

I refer to you the Alien and Sedition Acts. I very much don’t that James Madison, one of the fucking framers of the Constitution hated America.

Umm James Madison restored the Inquisition and imposed Jizya? I do not remember that part.

[Kowani]

I refer to you the Alien and Sedition Acts. I very much don’t that James Madison, one of the fucking framers of the Constitution hated America.

Umm James Madison restored the Inquisition and imposed Jizya? I do not remember that part.

No, the abolishment of the 1st Amendment.

[ElCKuT]

I weep at what we have become as a society.

I mean I cannot argue. As much as I think the whole degenerate meme is over used, paying large sums of money to drink used bath water? I mean WTF?

Actually it's for sentimental reasons, that's what the water's used for.

I would argue that the message isn't necessarily "I'm normal" so much as "I'm physically attractive and flaunting it." The basic biological impulse in those who view the picture is to be attracted and/or aroused. Outward manifestations of such reactions tend to either boost the body image and self-esteem of the person posting the picture or allow them to sort through potential sexual and/or romantic partners. We have religious and social impulses that occasionally work against that more primal biological impulse, but that's a bit of a simplification.


Very loosely. People aren't really products. Or at least we shouldn't be.

There is nothing wrong with choosing to advertise oneself.

As long as it's Halaal

I mean I cannot argue. As much as I think the whole degenerate meme is over used, paying large sums of money to drink used bath water? I mean WTF?

To be fair, how many people actually bought it?

It sold out

Out of curiosity, what are some policies you support on this matter? You come at it from a different angle than I do.

On thirstposting? I'd ban bikinis and male shirtlessness(well, in public- and social media would be considered public) to begin with, so it'd probably look incredibly different in a society where Dio dictates the law and we can't really say.
It's like asking Amin about his approach to subprime mortgages.

Idk what those are,the I like the rest of this post

I know you aren't. Just pointing out "Tell me I'm pretty" insta posts are an inevitable result not really distinctive from the other inevitable results of individualism.

Is vapidity and narcissism really an inevitable result of individualism? If so, then self-hatred, self-sacrifice, pathological altruism and the diminishing of pride and hence honor and shame are inevitable results of collectivism.

Well self-sacrifice isn't necessarily bad depending on what and how much. As for the other stuff, how?

We need to ban usury tbh, or at least heavily restrict the rates that can be charged. Further, we should strive to promote more social organizations that are meant to bring people together, like working men's clubs.

Yes, ban usury.

Loans still existed back when any interest levied was considered usury.

They either used the Jewish exemption or did some BS workaround that had the same result.
Like “Islamic Banking”.
Most people are not going to loan money for free.

Alternate business practices are not bs, and Islamic banking actually exists. There's no need for the quotes.

No, not really. Committing usury was one of the worst sins you could commit and one of the fastest ways to become a social outcast. It was primarily based off of risk tbh. Later you did see the emergence of some interest being levied, but those people became social outcasts and often were attacked by people and then eventually relegated exclusively to the local Jewish population.

Dude, again they were making money. The usury laws were full of loopholes. Just because they were not openly charging interest does not mean they were not using some other means of making money.

Making money isn't Haraam, riba (usury) is.

Oh, you know what I meant.

And y'all are just mad that your religion is a Jewish heresy.

I actually want to read the Talmud, but I've heard that the English translations aren't very good.

It's also a few thousand pages.

Have you read the Holy Qur'an?

My only regret is they didn't win it.

Thankfully, they did not.

^This. OEP idk why you wanted the Confederates to win.

Friendly reminder of the need to restore the Inquisition, Christian Jizya on non-believers, and a new Janissary Corps.

Yes, to jizyah on all able-bodied non-Muslim men, no to everything else.

[Napkizemlja]

No, not really. Committing usury was one of the worst sins you could commit and one of the fastest ways to become a social outcast. It was primarily based off of risk tbh. Later you did see the emergence of some interest being levied, but those people became social outcasts and often were attacked by people and then eventually relegated exclusively to the local Jewish population.

Dude, again they were making money. The usury laws were full of loopholes. Just because they were not openly charging interest does not mean they were not using some other means of making money.

I never said they didn't make money, I said they didn't charge interest because for a long time they didn't. And even when they did, the result was the Church slamming down hard which is why banking ended up being relegated almost exclusively to the Jewish population. And the rise of Jewish led banking was treated so hostilely that it led to the development of the ghetto system.

[Novus America]

Umm James Madison restored the Inquisition and imposed Jizya? I do not remember that part.

No, the abolishment of the 1st Amendment.

Ummm he did not abolish the First Amendment.
The Alien and Sedition acts did not abolish the First Amendment. Temporarily curtailed it sure. But did not abolish it.

[Jolthig]

What's the topic right now, RWDTers?

[Novus America]

Dude, again they were making money. The usury laws were full of loopholes. Just because they were not openly charging interest does not mean they were not using some other means of making money.

I never said they didn't make money, I said they didn't charge interest because for a long time they didn't. And even when they did, the result was the Church slamming down hard which is why banking ended up being relegated almost exclusively to the Jewish population.

They made money by means that was no better and not that much different.

[Kowani]

No, the abolishment of the 1st Amendment.

Ummm he did not abolish the First Amendment.
The Alien and Sedition acts did not abolish the First Amendment. Temporarily curtailed it sure. But did not abolish it.

This is a what I call pedantic fuckery.

[Napkizemlja]

I never said they didn't make money, I said they didn't charge interest because for a long time they didn't. And even when they did, the result was the Church slamming down hard which is why banking ended up being relegated almost exclusively to the Jewish population.

They made money by means that was no better and not that much different.

Equity participation is considered fair under Christian ethics towards banking. Not to mention, even with the rise of more tolerance towards usury, it was generally frowned upon, if not illegal, to charge interest on loans given to poor people.

You'll also note that I said "reduce as much as possible". I don't think you could completely eliminate usury in the contemporary world, not in a single lifetime at least.

[Jolthig]

They made money by means that was no better and not that much different.

Equity participation is considered fair under Christian ethics towards banking. Not to mention, even with the rise of more tolerance towards usury, it was generally frowned upon, if not illegal, to charge interest on loans given to poor people.

You'll also note that I said "reduce as much as possible". I don't think you could completely eliminate usury in the contemporary world, not in a single lifetime at least.

Yeah, the capitalist society we have today heavily relies on usury.

[Novus America]

Ummm he did not abolish the First Amendment.
The Alien and Sedition acts did not abolish the First Amendment. Temporarily curtailed it sure. But did not abolish it.

This is a what I call pedantic fuckery.

Or accuracy.

[The Xenopolis Confederation]

Doing that would require abolishing the first amendment, and if you want to abolish the first amendment, you hate America. Simple as that.

I refer to you the Alien and Sedition Acts. I very much don’t that James Madison, one of the fucking framers of the Constitution hated America.

When did Madison abolish the first amendment?

[Novus America]

They made money by means that was no better and not that much different.

Equity participation is considered fair under Christian ethics towards banking. Not to mention, even with the rise of more tolerance towards usury, it was generally frowned upon, if not illegal, to charge interest on loans given to poor people.

You'll also note that I said "reduce as much as possible". I don't think you could completely eliminate usury in the contemporary world, not in a single lifetime at least.

I give you a loan to buy a house, and charge you 1,000 a month including interest for 30 years. Or we do equity participation and I charge you the same amount for the same amount of time.
The exact system and name is unimportant compared to what your actual monthly payment is.

Look I agree we need to prevent certain abusive banking practices but throwing around medieval terminology is not actually proposing concrete policies.

[Hanafuridake]

Friendly reminder of the need to restore the Inquisition, Christian Jizya on non-believers, and a new Janissary Corps.

So you basically want beardless youth who are castrated.

I would pretend to be surprised that you fantasize about creating warrior traps, but I'm not.

[Napkizemlja]

Equity participation is considered fair under Christian ethics towards banking. Not to mention, even with the rise of more tolerance towards usury, it was generally frowned upon, if not illegal, to charge interest on loans given to poor people.

You'll also note that I said "reduce as much as possible". I don't think you could completely eliminate usury in the contemporary world, not in a single lifetime at least.

I give you a loan to buy a house, and charge you 1,000 a month including interest for 30 years. Or we do equity participation and I charge you the same amount for the same amount of time.
The exact system and name is unimportant compared to what your actual monthly payment is.

Look I agree we need to prevent certain abusive banking practices but throwing around medieval terminology is not actually proposing concrete policies.

Equity participation is not the same as interest, especially since you don't pay if you don't make a profit. Usury is also not medieval terminology but w/e.

[Kowani]

I refer to you the Alien and Sedition Acts. I very much don’t that James Madison, one of the fucking framers of the Constitution hated America.

When did Madison abolish the first amendment?

I refer to you the Alien and Sedition Acts.

[Totally Not OEP]

Friendly reminder of the need to restore the Inquisition, Christian Jizya on non-believers, and a new Janissary Corps.

So you basically want beardless youth who are castrated.

I would pretend to be surprised that you fantasize about creating warrior traps, but I'm not.

You're still mad about the Opium Wars.

[Novus America]

I give you a loan to buy a house, and charge you 1,000 a month including interest for 30 years. Or we do equity participation and I charge you the same amount for the same amount of time.
The exact system and name is unimportant compared to what your actual monthly payment is.

Look I agree we need to prevent certain abusive banking practices but throwing around medieval terminology is not actually proposing concrete policies.

Equity participation is not the same as interest, especially since you don't pay if you don't make a profit. Usury is also not medieval terminology but w/e.

Depending on the terms on the contract, you might end up paying just as much is the point.
You are focusing on the wrong thing.

Plus usury is just a vague term for loan terms considered unfair. It does not necessarily prohibit interest. It is not a very meaningful term.

[Hanafuridake]

So you basically want beardless youth who are castrated.

I would pretend to be surprised that you fantasize about creating warrior traps, but I'm not.

You're still mad about the Opium Wars.

In terms of sick burns, “you're mad about a random historical war” is low in the rankings tbh.

[Totally Not OEP]

Currently the United States provides the Earned Income Tax Credit and the Child Tax Credit at a cost of $71 billion and $121 billion, respectively. If we combined them into a single program, we could afford the proposed Grow American Income Now (GAIN) Act tax credit, which would cost $143 billion and thus also generate $49 Billion in savings compared to existing programs while offering a larger credit.

[Totally Not OEP]

You're still mad about the Opium Wars.

In terms of sick burns, “you're mad about a random historical war” is low in the rankings tbh.

It's an off day, so yeah...

[The Xenopolis Confederation]

When did Madison abolish the first amendment?

I refer to you the Alien and Sedition Acts.

Did they abolish the first amendment?