Right-Wing Discussion Thread XVI: Making Things Right Again

[Novus America]

They absolutely do not.
Allowing a religious minority to exist, which in strict confines is not religious freedom.
Penalize apostasy (but only for one religion, Christians in Muslim states can not punish apostates who convert to Islam), you grossly violated religious freedom.

The state funds mosques yet strongly restricts the ability of Christians to build churches? Also violates religious freedom.

Of course also Atheists get nothing either, not even second class citizenship.

Strict confines? Christians have served in Muslim government.

Yet never as the head of state or head of government.

Allowing them to serve in (only some) government positions does not make up for all the other restrictions outlined above. Religious freedom is more than allowing certain religious minorities to exist (under discriminatory rules).

[Hanafuridake]

Why does it always seem like there's an Islamist on RWDT trying to convince us all that we actually have Islamism totally wrong and should enthusiastically accept second class status?

[Kowani]

I think I misread, tbh. Kowani apparently doesn't believe in rights? Wtf is he arguing for then?

Fully Automated Gay Space Communism.

So I have been told.

I need a better name for that...

[Duvniask]

Why does it always seem like there's an Islamist on RWDT trying to convince us all that we actually have Islamism totally wrong and should enthusiastically accept second class status?

Seems like the only avenue of approach they have left to desperately try and convince others of their worldview.

[Novus America]

Why does it always seem like there's an Islamist on RWDT trying to convince us all that we actually have Islamism totally wrong and should enthusiastically accept second class status?

And in most cases you would not get even get that. Second class status is only reserved to certain religions. In most cases Buddhism does not make the list.

[Washington Resistance Army]

Why does it always seem like there's an Islamist on RWDT trying to convince us all that we actually have Islamism totally wrong and should enthusiastically accept second class status?

We should ban Islamists tbh

[The Supreme Magnificent High Swaglord]

Fully Automated Gay Space Communism.

So I have been told.

I need a better name for that...

Post-scarcity civilization?

[Nakena]

Why does it always seem like there's an Islamist on RWDT trying to convince us all that we actually have Islamism totally wrong and should enthusiastically accept second class status?

We should ban Islamists tbh

Indeed. However oddly enough theres still some right-wingers who have an fondness for islamist integralism over the so-called "Globohomo"

[Al Mumtahanah]

If you can't articulate a moral code others can depend on you to follow, there's a problem.

Nowhere did I say that I, or others like me who spend way more time thinking about these matters, couldn't articulate a moral code, just that there's no great, holy work from which such a moral code could be extrapolated.

Now, answer me this, what's my religious freedom under the Islamic state you speak so fervently in favor of?

I would say you don't have a religion.

[Novus America]

Why does it always seem like there's an Islamist on RWDT trying to convince us all that we actually have Islamism totally wrong and should enthusiastically accept second class status?

We should ban Islamists tbh

Certainly we should ban them from immigration. We have long banned certain groups like Communists from immigration, why not do what we did to Communists in the 50s but do it to Islamists?

[Hanafuridake]

Why does it always seem like there's an Islamist on RWDT trying to convince us all that we actually have Islamism totally wrong and should enthusiastically accept second class status?

And in most cases you would not get even get that. Second class status is only reserved to certain religions. In most cases Buddhism does not make the list.

Oh yeah, I'm well aware that when it comes to the beheadings, I'm the first on the chop block. For being both a gay and a mushrikun.

[Novus America]

Nowhere did I say that I, or others like me who spend way more time thinking about these matters, couldn't articulate a moral code, just that there's no great, holy work from which such a moral code could be extrapolated.

Now, answer me this, what's my religious freedom under the Islamic state you speak so fervently in favor of?

I would say you don't have a religion.

Religious freedom includes the right to have no religion. Or your own.

[Cappuccina]

I disagree with Al Mumtahanah, "religious freedom" is a western secular (aka atheist) concept which is alien to and non-existent in Islam (as it should be).

A Muslim state has no need for 'religious freedom" and Muslim relationships with unbelievers is governed by scripture. God (swt) had already layed out for us how to govern and how to behave, musings of unbelievers are irrelevant.

[The Supreme Magnificent High Swaglord]

We should ban Islamists tbh

Indeed. However oddly enough theres still some right-wingers who have an fondness for islamist integralism over the so-called "Globohomo"

I'm sorry, but "globohomo"? That term is heccing absurd, mate. It just... it's silly. It's too gosh darned silly.

[Al Mumtahanah]

Why does it always seem like there's an Islamist on RWDT trying to convince us all that we actually have Islamism totally wrong and should enthusiastically accept second class status?

And in most cases you would not get even get that. Second class status is only reserved to certain religions. In most cases Buddhism does not make the list.

Not true, Buddhists were classified as people of book. So were Hindus

[Bear Stearns]

We should ban Islamists tbh

Certainly we should ban them from immigration. We have long banned certain groups like Communists from immigration, why not do what we did to Communists in the 50s but do it to Islamists?

Our immigration policy used to pretty sensible, and we'd ban people most likely to cause trouble. This included:
-Communists
-Anarchists
-Criminals
-Alcoholics
-Drug addicts
-Crippled
-Diseased
-Mental cases
-Anti-social people
-The lazy

The point of Ellis Island was to screen for these people.

[Kowani]

I need a better name for that...

Post-scarcity civilization?

Not bad.

I disagree with Al Mumtahanah, "religious freedom" is a western secular (aka atheist) concept which is alien to and non-existent in Islam (as it should be).

A Muslim state has no need for 'religious freedom" and Muslim relationships with unbelievers is governed by scripture. God (swt) had already layed out for us how to govern and how to behave, musings of unbelievers are irrelevant.

I swear, the greatest enemies of Muslims are Muslims themselves.

[Al Mumtahanah]

I would say you don't have a religion.

Religious freedom includes the right to have no religion. Or your own.

That's taking things a bit far.

[Bear Stearns]

We should ban Islamists tbh

Indeed. However oddly enough theres still some right-wingers who have an fondness for islamist integralism over the so-called "Globohomo"

You mean all four of them? Find me a normal American right-winger or even alt righter whoa actually likes Islam.

[The Supreme Magnificent High Swaglord]

Certainly we should ban them from immigration. We have long banned certain groups like Communists from immigration, why not do what we did to Communists in the 50s but do it to Islamists?

Our immigration policy used to pretty sensible, and we'd ban people most likely to cause trouble. This included:
-Communists
-Anarchists
-Criminals
-Alcoholics
-Drug addicts
-Crippled
-Diseased
-Mental cases
-Anti-social people
-The lazy

The point of Ellis Island was to screen for these people.

Define "mental cases", if you don't mind of course.

[Nakena]

Certainly we should ban them from immigration. We have long banned certain groups like Communists from immigration, why not do what we did to Communists in the 50s but do it to Islamists?

Our immigration policy used to pretty sensible, and we'd ban people most likely to cause trouble. This included:
-Communists
-Anarchists
-Criminals
-Alcoholics
-Drug addicts
-Crippled
-Diseased
-Mental cases
-Anti-social people
-The lazy

The point of Ellis Island was to screen for these people.

I believe its entirely reasonable that a sovereign nation is choosing and setting it's criterias in regards to immigration.

[Al Mumtahanah]

Indeed. However oddly enough theres still some right-wingers who have an fondness for islamist integralism over the so-called "Globohomo"

You mean all four of them? Find me a normal American right-winger or even alt righter whoa actually likes Islam.

The alt-right has a bizarre infatuation with Shiaism

[Hanafuridake]

-Crippled

I wouldn't classify being crippled as something akin to being a criminal or a drug addict. That people used to would be a black mark on the pages of history.

[Bear Stearns]

Our immigration policy used to pretty sensible, and we'd ban people most likely to cause trouble. This included:
-Communists
-Anarchists
-Criminals
-Alcoholics
-Drug addicts
-Crippled
-Diseased
-Mental cases
-Anti-social people
-The lazy

The point of Ellis Island was to screen for these people.

Define "mental cases", if you don't mind of course.

People with mental illness. I believe at the time it was enforced, it mostly referred to autism, Down Syndrome, low IQ, or an inability to follow instructions.

Immigration officers would administer tests to them to see how everyone stacked up.

[Cappuccina]

And in most cases you would not get even get that. Second class status is only reserved to certain religions. In most cases Buddhism does not make the list.

Not true, Buddhists were classified as people of book. So were Hindus

Where did you come up with that nonsense?!?

Post-scarcity civilization?

Not bad.

I disagree with Al Mumtahanah, "religious freedom" is a western secular (aka atheist) concept which is alien to and non-existent in Islam (as it should be).

A Muslim state has no need for 'religious freedom" and Muslim relationships with unbelievers is governed by scripture. God (swt) had already layed out for us how to govern and how to behave, musings of unbelievers are irrelevant.

I swear, the greatest enemies of Muslims are Muslims themselves.

Why do you say that?