Right-Wing Discussion Thread XVI: Making Things Right Again

[Kowani]

Ah, my bad.

But you’re right, we do go in circles.

So... are we "cool" as I think the youth say nowadays?

1. Don’t try to slip into Gen-Z speech, because it’s painfully obvious you don’t know it.
2. Yeah, we’re chill.

[Greater Adamsia]

So... are we "cool" as I think the youth say nowadays?

1. Don’t try to slip into Gen-Z speech, because it’s painfully obvious you don’t know it.
2. Yeah, we’re chill.

I mean, I am Gen Z (18 y/o), I'm just very very sheltered.

[Washington Resistance Army]

1. Don’t try to slip into Gen-Z speech, because it’s painfully obvious you don’t know it.
2. Yeah, we’re chill.

I mean, I am Gen Z (18 y/o), I'm just very very sheltered.

It shows lol

[Kowani]

1. Don’t try to slip into Gen-Z speech, because it’s painfully obvious you don’t know it.
2. Yeah, we’re chill.

I mean, I am Gen Z (18 y/o), I'm just very very sheltered.

I can see.

[Totally Not OEP]

Kinda moving in favor of Revolutionary National Syndicalism. I don't think the Reformist/Gradualist approach can work, as decisive action is required to achieve an overthrowing of the existing Liberal Bourgeoisie order and only Revolutionary fervor can conquer the inevitable attempts of the Establishment to prevent a new society, completely antithetical to the current, from arising.

[Bear Stearns]

You guys ever notice how early 2000s anti-Bush propaganda could easily be levied at modern America today?

Make this rainbow colored and this flag describes everything wrong with America.

[Kowani]

You guys ever notice how early 2000s anti-Bush propaganda could easily be levied at modern America today?

Make this rainbow colored and this flag describes everything wrong with America.

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Homosexuality is not part of “everything wrong with America.”

[ECKU]

You guys ever notice how early 2000s anti-Bush propaganda could easily be levied at modern America today?

Make this rainbow colored and this flag describes everything wrong with America.

(Image)

Homosexuality is not part of “everything wrong with America.”

[Bear Stearns]

You guys ever notice how early 2000s anti-Bush propaganda could easily be levied at modern America today?

Make this rainbow colored and this flag describes everything wrong with America.

(Image)

Homosexuality is not part of “everything wrong with America.”

"There is no agenda"

[Kowani]

Homosexuality is not part of “everything wrong with America.”

It’s not, Amin.

Homosexuality is not part of “everything wrong with America.”

"There is no agenda"

If the homosexual agenda was rainbow capitalism and a few pieces of legislation, that’d a shitty agenda.

[Novus America]

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It’s not, Amin.

"There is no agenda"

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If the homosexual agenda was rainbow capitalism and a few pieces of legislation, that’d a shitty agenda.

It is the agenda. Not just for LGBT groups. Any interest group.
Just want some government benefits and corporate handouts.
Every major interest group is corrupt to the core.

[Kowani]

It’s not, Amin.


If the homosexual agenda was rainbow capitalism and a few pieces of legislation, that’d a shitty agenda.

It is the agenda. Not just for LGBT groups. Any interest group.
Just want some government benefits and corporate handouts.
Every major interest group is corrupt to the core.

Equal rights is not corruption.

[Washington Resistance Army]

There's nothing wrong with homosexuality. Wider LGBT culture is awful, yes, but homosexuals existing do not contribute to everything wrong with America.

[Novus America]

It is the agenda. Not just for LGBT groups. Any interest group.
Just want some government benefits and corporate handouts.
Every major interest group is corrupt to the core.

Equal rights is not corruption.

Of course not. But do you really think that is the objective of the groups’ leaders?
After all if rights were completely equal and treated the same, the groups would go out of business.

Solving problems does not make them rich. Those sweet corporate donations do.

Like the American Cancer Society.
It would not want all cancer easily cured, as all its executives would lose their jobs.
Again perverse incentives is not unique to LGBT groups. It is not more prevalent with them than any other.

[Novus America]

There's nothing wrong with homosexuality. Wider LGBT culture is awful, yes, but homosexuals existing do not contribute to everything wrong with America.

Very true. And again LGBT groups are not any worse than any others. It is just the whole lobbyist culture.
I have nothing against LGBT. My problem is with lobbyist culture.

[Bear Stearns]

There's nothing wrong with homosexuality. Wider LGBT culture is awful, yes, but homosexuals existing do not contribute to everything wrong with America.

That's more what I was getting at with the flag. Corporate liberalism is a cancer.

[Totally Not OEP]

Homosexuals might be acceptable, but the wider expression and especially the culture of it must be suppressed.

[Totally Not OEP]

There's nothing wrong with homosexuality. Wider LGBT culture is awful, yes, but homosexuals existing do not contribute to everything wrong with America.

That's more what I was getting at with the flag. Corporate liberalism is a cancer.

Back in August of 2017 there was an article, I think by The Atlantic or it might have been Newsweek, talking about how Corporations have become the bastion of Social Liberalism and the force most extolling it given the recession of Federal efforts under Trump. That was extremely influential on me, and helped push me into a Third Positionist stance.

[Bear Stearns]

That's more what I was getting at with the flag. Corporate liberalism is a cancer.

Back in August of 2017 there was an article, I think by The Atlantic or it might have been Newsweek, talking about how Corporations have become the bastion of Social Liberalism and the force most extolling it given the recession of Federal efforts under Trump. That was extremely influential on me, and helped push me into a Third Positionist stance.

I'm seeing a shift in the parties coming.

Republicans will become social authoritarians and economic populists. Republicans will be more likely to break up Big Tech than Democrats will.

Democrats will remain extreme social liberals, but also become very pro-market and in favor of Corporate America and basically be the political wing of Silicon Valley and Wall Street.

And hardcore left-wingers will likely form a new party or just shut up and stick with the Democrats as they usually do.

[Fahran]

Kinda moving in favor of Revolutionary National Syndicalism. I don't think the Reformist/Gradualist approach can work, as decisive action is required to achieve an overthrowing of the existing Liberal Bourgeoisie order and only Revolutionary fervor can conquer the inevitable attempts of the Establishment to prevent a new society, completely antithetical to the current, from arising.

I do not believe the solution to liberalism can be ideological or material. I believe rather that it must be cultural, spiritual, and personal, beginning in the home, the pulpit, and the community. Then our desires our a touch divergent, I'd say. Just no sending me to the wall if you win or I'll be deeply disappointed.

Homosexuals might be acceptable, but the wider expression and especially the culture of it must be suppressed.

The decriminalization of homosexuality, the legalization of same-sex marriage and adoption by same-sex couples, and increasing social acceptance might well lead to the gradual elimination of the more exhibitionist and voyeuristic aspects of pride culture and the emphasis on values of modesty and sexuality that, while not quite prudish, are at least somewhat more restrained and conventional. Of course we have yet to define the role religion and business will play in our society relative to LGBT+ persons and issues, and progressives seem intent on keeping a forward march going, regardless of the reforms or concessions that are implemented.

[Duhon]

Back in August of 2017 there was an article, I think by The Atlantic or it might have been Newsweek, talking about how Corporations have become the bastion of Social Liberalism and the force most extolling it given the recession of Federal efforts under Trump. That was extremely influential on me, and helped push me into a Third Positionist stance.

I'm seeing a shift in the parties coming.

Republicans will become social authoritarians and economic populists. Republicans will be more likely to break up Big Tech than Democrats will.

Democrats will remain extreme social liberals, but also become very pro-market and in favor of Corporate America and basically be the political wing of Silicon Valley and Wall Street.

And hardcore left-wingers will likely form a new party or just shut up and stick with the Democrats as they usually do.

lol at thinking the authoritarianism will only be "social"

[Fahran]

Very true. And again LGBT groups are not any worse than any others. It is just the whole lobbyist culture. I have nothing against LGBT. My problem is with lobbyist culture.

Lobbyists are an essential feature of modern governance.

[Fahran]

Quick question

What do you guys think of anarchism?

Not trying to start a flamewar, I'm just curious on what those on the right think.

It's not an especially effective means of governance, its philosophical justifications are often just liberalism on steroids, and it strikes me as rule by appetite.

[Novus America]

Kinda moving in favor of Revolutionary National Syndicalism. I don't think the Reformist/Gradualist approach can work, as decisive action is required to achieve an overthrowing of the existing Liberal Bourgeoisie order and only Revolutionary fervor can conquer the inevitable attempts of the Establishment to prevent a new society, completely antithetical to the current, from arising.

I do not believe the solution to liberalism can be ideological or material. I believe rather that it must be cultural, spiritual, and personal, beginning in the home, the pulpit, and the community. Then our desires our a touch divergent, I'd say. Just no sending me to the wall if you win or I'll be deeply disappointed.

Homosexuals might be acceptable, but the wider expression and especially the culture of it must be suppressed.

The decriminalization of homosexuality, the legalization of same-sex marriage and adoption by same-sex couples, and increasing social acceptance might well lead to the gradual elimination of the more exhibitionist and voyeuristic aspects of pride culture and the emphasis on values of modesty and sexuality that, while not quite prudish, are at least somewhat more restrained and conventional. Of course we have yet to define the role religion and business will play in our society relative to LGBT+ persons and issues, and progressives seem intent on keeping a forward march going, regardless of the reforms or concessions that are implemented.

Exactly. The ones getting married, working honest jobs and dressing well and all, how are they worse than a straight guy who is also a gangbanger slob?
How are they and not the gangbanger slob the problem to be fixed?

Forcing a group into a subculture makes it a subculture.

I am not a fan of the pride aesthetics and all, but not all gay people going that route of shoving over the top stuff in everyone’s face.

Plus with the left’s adoration of Islam and adversarial identity politics it is a way to drive a wedge down the left. The LGBT who want to be good productive members of society should be incorporated into society. Not driven into subculture. Take the good ones and leave the subculture with the left.

Also if I win you would never be up against the wall.

Now for PRC shills tech bros, well I will stop here but they are not getting an Epstein easy out.

But no good people like you would be deliberately harmed in any manner.

[Novus America]

Very true. And again LGBT groups are not any worse than any others. It is just the whole lobbyist culture. I have nothing against LGBT. My problem is with lobbyist culture.

Lobbyists are an essential feature of modern governance.

Oh they are. I am not saying we ban them all (except foreign government ones perhaps).
But I do think we need to look at serious reforms to lobbyist rules and culture.
While obviously lobbying will exist, the current mess is definitely sub optimal.