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Right-Wing Discussion Thread XVI: Making Things Right Again

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Do you consider nationalism and patriotism synoymous?

Yes- I am a nationalist and a patriot
115
26%
No- I am a nationalist and a patriot
52
12%
No- I am a nationalist, not a patriot
43
10%
No- I am a patriot, not a nationalist
147
33%
Yes- I am neither a nationalist nor a patriot
18
4%
No- I am neither a nationalist nor a patriot
68
15%
 
Total votes : 443

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Nova Cyberia
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Postby Nova Cyberia » Thu Jun 20, 2019 6:22 pm

United Muscovite Nations wrote:Lol, apparently telling posters they should be taken prisoner and ransomed is now not actionable.

We live in a society
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Loben The 2nd
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Postby Loben The 2nd » Thu Jun 20, 2019 6:30 pm

Nova Cyberia wrote:
United Muscovite Nations wrote:Lol, apparently telling posters they should be taken prisoner and ransomed is now not actionable.

We live in a society


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The Xenopolis Confederation
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Postby The Xenopolis Confederation » Thu Jun 20, 2019 6:38 pm

United Muscovite Nations wrote:Lol, apparently telling posters they should be taken prisoner and ransomed is now not actionable.

What's this about?
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The Xenopolis Confederation
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Postby The Xenopolis Confederation » Thu Jun 20, 2019 6:39 pm

Jolthig wrote:
Novus America wrote:I will just say this.
If a slavery apologist is right about Islam, than Islam is truly an irredeemable religion, and should be eliminated entirely.
Every time we see posts like these it makes Islam look contemptible at best.

Maybe the poster is really anti Muslim, and just pretending to be a Muslim to make Islam look horrible?

Regardless either the poster is wrong, or Islam is evil.

As I've stated in the past, Islam intends to abolish slavery, and not prolong it.

If that were true, majority Muslim nations should be among the first nations to abolish slavery, correct?
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Bienenhalde
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Postby Bienenhalde » Thu Jun 20, 2019 6:40 pm

Hanafuridake wrote:Does anyone else find Nova Roma fascinating, even if a bit silly?


I mean, if people are going to be pagans in the modern world, I suppose I would prefer they do it properly instead of following some kind of New Agey Wiccan type mumbo-jumbo. But recreating a pagan Roman state in the modern world is not a very realistic political program.

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Jack Thomas Lang
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Postby Jack Thomas Lang » Thu Jun 20, 2019 6:57 pm

Hanafuridake wrote:Does anyone else find Nova Roma fascinating, even if a bit silly?

I too enjoy larping.

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Washington Resistance Army
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Thu Jun 20, 2019 7:03 pm

Hanafuridake wrote:Does anyone else find Nova Roma fascinating, even if a bit silly?


Nova Roma is a super shitty organization led by really awful people, there's a similar group that split off some years called SPQR or something that's way better.
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Kowani
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Postby Kowani » Thu Jun 20, 2019 7:11 pm

Diopolis wrote:
Novus America wrote:
Sure, if one poster would stop trying to throw Islam into every debate, stop spamming links to Islamic texts and stop trying to justify slavery we could do that.

Let's be fair here: he's not the only poster who's tried to justify slavery.

United Muscovite Nations wrote:Lol, apparently telling posters they should be taken prisoner and ransomed is now not actionable.

If you think it's actionable, report it. Otherwise, I agree with Jolthig- the Islam debate is going nowhere and we should all move onto other topics, like the role of the state. Or porcupines.

The role of the State is to improve the material circumstances of its citizenry. To this end, there are no barriers.
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The Galactic Liberal Democracy
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Postby The Galactic Liberal Democracy » Thu Jun 20, 2019 7:16 pm

Hanafuridake wrote:Does anyone else find Nova Roma fascinating, even if a bit silly?

It's cool but weird. It would be more interesting to make up your own empire's culture and have mock politics.
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Diopolis
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Postby Diopolis » Thu Jun 20, 2019 8:57 pm

Kowani wrote:
Diopolis wrote:Let's be fair here: he's not the only poster who's tried to justify slavery.


If you think it's actionable, report it. Otherwise, I agree with Jolthig- the Islam debate is going nowhere and we should all move onto other topics, like the role of the state. Or porcupines.

The role of the State is to improve the material circumstances of its citizenry. To this end, there are no barriers.

Ok.
Define material conditions of the citizenry. To what extent does freedom factor in?
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Camelone
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Postby Camelone » Thu Jun 20, 2019 9:33 pm

Hanafuridake wrote:Does anyone else find Nova Roma fascinating, even if a bit silly?

I stumbled across them when I was younger, they seemed really cool back then and I had just become disillusioned with the American Blackshirt Party so they seemed epic. Especially to a history loving high schooler. Now I’ll take my politics as a Jacobite North America split up into many constitutional monarchies and city-states unified under the same king.
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Ave Rex Christus!

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Neutral: Constitutions, Guild Socialism, Libertarianism, Constitution Party, monarchism
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The Xenopolis Confederation
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Postby The Xenopolis Confederation » Thu Jun 20, 2019 11:29 pm

Camelone wrote:
Hanafuridake wrote:Does anyone else find Nova Roma fascinating, even if a bit silly?

I stumbled across them when I was younger, they seemed really cool back then and I had just become disillusioned with the American Blackshirt Party so they seemed epic. Especially to a history loving high schooler. Now I’ll take my politics as a Jacobite North America split up into many constitutional monarchies and city-states unified under the same king.

What is the American Blackshirt Party, and what was it about them that disillusioned you?
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Washington Resistance Army
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Thu Jun 20, 2019 11:53 pm

The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:
Camelone wrote:I stumbled across them when I was younger, they seemed really cool back then and I had just become disillusioned with the American Blackshirt Party so they seemed epic. Especially to a history loving high schooler. Now I’ll take my politics as a Jacobite North America split up into many constitutional monarchies and city-states unified under the same king.

What is the American Blackshirt Party, and what was it about them that disillusioned you?


The American Blackshirt Party is a fascist party except they spend all their time attacking other far right or third position groups and people and it's stupid as hell.

Also some of their members are bronies and weebs and it's cringe.
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The Xenopolis Confederation
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Postby The Xenopolis Confederation » Fri Jun 21, 2019 2:47 am

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:What is the American Blackshirt Party, and what was it about them that disillusioned you?


The American Blackshirt Party is a fascist party except they spend all their time attacking other far right or third position groups and people and it's stupid as hell.

Also some of their members are bronies and weebs and it's cringe.

Most Fascists are pretty cringe, tbh. Bronies or not.
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Painisia
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Postby Painisia » Fri Jun 21, 2019 3:38 am

Is it just my adolescent mind or is Slavoj Zizek`s philosophy so hard to understand?
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Postby Conserative Morality » Fri Jun 21, 2019 3:54 am

Painisia wrote:Is it just my adolescent mind or is Slavoj Zizek`s philosophy so hard to understand?

It's garbage.
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Nakena
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Postby Nakena » Fri Jun 21, 2019 3:59 am

Painisia wrote:Is it just my adolescent mind or is Slavoj Zizek`s philosophy so hard to understand?


Watch his videos.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pk8ibrfXvpQ

Conserative Morality wrote:It's garbage.


He's a true working class Hero.
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Hanafuridake
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Postby Hanafuridake » Fri Jun 21, 2019 4:04 am

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:What is the American Blackshirt Party, and what was it about them that disillusioned you?


The American Blackshirt Party is a fascist party except they spend all their time attacking other far right or third position groups and people and it's stupid as hell.

Also some of their members are bronies and weebs and it's cringe.


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Painisia
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Postby Painisia » Fri Jun 21, 2019 4:23 am

Nakena wrote:
Painisia wrote:Is it just my adolescent mind or is Slavoj Zizek`s philosophy so hard to understand?


Watch his videos.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pk8ibrfXvpQ

Conserative Morality wrote:It's garbage.


He's a true working class Hero.


Ah, I think I will understand him better soon. He has been criticized for not creating a "consistent" and clear ideological thought and philosophy by many intellectuals. For he is just your average psychoanalytic deep-theory Marxist.

But didn't he accept capitalism during the debate with J Peterson?
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Conserative Morality
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Postby Conserative Morality » Fri Jun 21, 2019 4:25 am

Nakena wrote:
Painisia wrote:Is it just my adolescent mind or is Slavoj Zizek`s philosophy so hard to understand?


Watch his videos.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pk8ibrfXvpQ

Conserative Morality wrote:It's garbage.


He's a true working class Hero.

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Postby Diopolis » Fri Jun 21, 2019 4:47 am

Painisia wrote:Is it just my adolescent mind or is Slavoj Zizek`s philosophy so hard to understand?

Deliberately so.
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Nea Byzantia
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Postby Nea Byzantia » Fri Jun 21, 2019 5:10 am

United Muscovite Nations wrote:Well, RWDT, which is it: Mogul or Mughal?

Mongol

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Nea Byzantia
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Postby Nea Byzantia » Fri Jun 21, 2019 5:38 am

Conserative Morality wrote:
United Muscovite Nations wrote:Lol, apparently telling posters they should be taken prisoner and ransomed is now not actionable.

>> mfw

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Did I just see CM don the Cross and shout "Deus Vult!"

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Postby Conserative Morality » Fri Jun 21, 2019 6:23 am

Nea Byzantia wrote:Did I just see CM don the Cross and shout "Deus Vult!"

You are now my captive, Byzantine! Yield and be treated with the honors of war! I will ransom you according to your rank!

Knighthood is very profitable if you know how to work it. =^)
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LiberNovusAmericae
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Postby LiberNovusAmericae » Fri Jun 21, 2019 6:32 am

Can we transport back to the 21st century?

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