Right-Wing Discussion Thread XVI: Making Things Right Again

by **The Xenopolis Confederation** » Mon Jun 10, 2019 11:56 pm

Salus Maior wrote:Which means you have to stick with mainstream opinion.

Which, like I just said, I'm not mainstream.

Yes, but you have every opportunity to make your ideology mainstream.

Hanafuridake wrote:Why are you equating not being head of state with being against universal suffrage?

I'm not, I'm saying. If you want a say, but you don't want others to have a say, you're selfish.

Kowani wrote:Nah. One could sincerely believe limited suffrage to be for the good of the nation.

Yes, but if one believes themselves to be good enough to vote, but not the general population, that's elitism. Not necessarily selfish, but very elitist.

by **Old Tyrannia** » Tue Jun 11, 2019 2:41 am

RWDT regulars as films:

I'm open to suggestions for further listings.

by **The Xenopolis Confederation** » Tue Jun 11, 2019 2:45 am

Old Tyrannia wrote:RWDT regulars as films:
Me: Elizabeth (1998)

Swaglord: Brazil (1985)

UMN: Nicholas and Alexandra (1971)

Hanafuridake: Lady Snowblood (1973)

Fahran: Fidder on the Roof (1971)

Salus Maior: The Leopard (1963)

OEP: The Birth of a Nation (1915)

Nea Byzantia: 300 (2006)

Conserative Morality: Casablanca (1942)

Bienenhalde: Labyrinth (1986)

Bear Stearns: The Wolf of Wall Street (2013)

Diopolis: Day of Wrath (1943)

Xenopolis: Transformers (2007)

Novus America: Team America: World Police (2004)

I'm open to suggestions for further listings.

I don't really see the comparison between me and Transformers, but thanks I guess.

by **Old Tyrannia** » Tue Jun 11, 2019 2:51 am

The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:
Old Tyrannia wrote:RWDT regulars as films:
Me: Elizabeth (1998)

Swaglord: Brazil (1985)

UMN: Nicholas and Alexandra (1971)

Hanafuridake: Lady Snowblood (1973)

Fahran: Fidder on the Roof (1971)

Salus Maior: The Leopard (1963)

OEP: The Birth of a Nation (1915)

Nea Byzantia: 300 (2006)

Conserative Morality: Casablanca (1942)

Bienenhalde: Labyrinth (1986)

Bear Stearns: The Wolf of Wall Street (2013)

Diopolis: Day of Wrath (1943)

Xenopolis: Transformers (2007)

Novus America: Team America: World Police (2004)

I'm open to suggestions for further listings.

I don't really see the comparison between me and Transformers, but thanks I guess.

You have the most boring, mainstream and simplistic politics of anyone here, so I paired you with the most boring, mainstream and simplistic film that I could think of.

by **The Xenopolis Confederation** » Tue Jun 11, 2019 2:58 am

Old Tyrannia wrote:
The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:I don't really see the comparison between me and Transformers, but thanks I guess.

You have the most boring, mainstream and simplistic politics of anyone here, so I paired you with the most boring, mainstream and simplistic film that I could think of.

Oh. Thanks I guess. Personally, I think I'm more Twelve Angry Men (1957). Or at least that's what I aspire to be. At least, insofar as one can aspire to be a film.

by **Hanafuridake** » Tue Jun 11, 2019 2:58 am

Painisia wrote:Hanafuridake: Your Wise All-Divine Buddhist princess spending most of the days writing down her Divine teachings

I would be much too afraid of divine wrath.

by **Dumb Ideologies** » Tue Jun 11, 2019 3:12 am

My film would be Rubber (2010)

Too self-consciously weird to be mainstream, funny but a few too many layers of irony, kills off its own patrons half way through.

by **The Xenopolis Confederation** » Tue Jun 11, 2019 3:43 am

Dumb Ideologies wrote:My film would be Rubber (2010)

Too self-consciously weird to be mainstream, funny but a few too many layers of irony, kills off its own patrons half way through.

The wikipedia plot synopsis makes that sound like the scariest movie ever.

by **Duhon** » Tue Jun 11, 2019 3:57 am

Old Tyrannia wrote:RWDT regulars as films:
Me: Elizabeth (1998)

Swaglord: Brazil (1985)

UMN: Nicholas and Alexandra (1971)

Hanafuridake: Lady Snowblood (1973)

Fahran: Fidder on the Roof (1971)

Salus Maior: The Leopard (1963)

OEP: The Birth of a Nation (1915)

Nea Byzantia: 300 (2006)

Conserative Morality: Casablanca (1942)

Bienenhalde: Labyrinth (1986)

Bear Stearns: The Wolf of Wall Street (2013)

Diopolis: Day of Wrath (1943)

Xenopolis: Transformers (2007)

Novus America: Team America: World Police (2004)

I'm open to suggestions for further listings.

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by **Conserative Morality** » Tue Jun 11, 2019 4:06 am

Old Tyrannia wrote:RWDT regulars as films:
Me: Elizabeth (1998)

Hanafuridake: Lady Snowblood (1973)

Conserative Morality: Casablanca (1942)

I'm flattered that you'd pick such a classic for me, and one with such a wonderful mixture of cynicism and idealism.

by **Novus America** » Tue Jun 11, 2019 4:29 am

Old Tyrannia wrote:RWDT regulars as films:
Me: Elizabeth (1998)

Swaglord: Brazil (1985)

UMN: Nicholas and Alexandra (1971)

Hanafuridake: Lady Snowblood (1973)

Fahran: Fidder on the Roof (1971)

Salus Maior: The Leopard (1963)

OEP: The Birth of a Nation (1915)

Nea Byzantia: 300 (2006)

Conserative Morality: Casablanca (1942)

Bienenhalde: Labyrinth (1986)

Bear Stearns: The Wolf of Wall Street (2013)

Diopolis: Day of Wrath (1943)

Xenopolis: Transformers (2007)

Novus America: Team America: World Police (2004)

I'm open to suggestions for further listings.

Fuck yeah!

Seriously though I like it. Irreverent, extremely pro US while also being critical of the US at the same time.

by **Painisia** » Tue Jun 11, 2019 4:58 am

I am planning to write a series of my personal hypothesis (prediction) for the political future of Europe and the rest of the world.

The first one will be the The European Hypothesis. I have not started to write it, but I can reveal to you that my prediction is that Europe will be further divided between the progressive Eurocratic faction and the Traditionalist Nation-State faction. In Russia, a conflict will grow as Putin is planning to abdicate by 2024. The conflict between the "elders" (Anti-European conservatives and nationalists) and the "progressives" (Anti-oligarchy and a more friendlier approach to the EU and US) will evaporate as 2024 is closing in. Putin resigns in 2024, as a gesture of democratic fairness, but Russia will be further fragmented and an economic recession will follow. This creates a state of extreme discontent among the Russian populace.

Eventually, the "Duginist" faction within the army manages to persuade the rest of the army that Russia is under a threat and launches a coup. They install a National Bolshevist military general as President. Their aim is now to persuade Greece, Bulgaria, Salvini`s Italy, Hungary, the Russian faction in Ukraine, Belarus and the anti-EU clique in Serbia to join them in order to "conquer the Eurocrats in Brussels". In fact, they are planning to establish an Eurasian Empire which will compete against the US and the West both culturally and militarily.

In China, Xi Jinping has consolidated his Communist dictatorship via the Social Credit System and extreme surveillance of dissidents. From now on, he is intent on competing against the US. The world will become a Mercantilist playground.

Fasten your seat belts...

by **Jack Thomas Lang** » Tue Jun 11, 2019 5:02 am

Painisia wrote:Fasten your seat belts...

I think you need to research more, especially regarding Russia. National Bolshevism has no mainstream credence in army and political circles. The ultimate goal of Russian-led Eurasia does form a mainstay of nationalist geopolitics, but there's no ideological compulsion within Russia to get there. A sort of pragmatic realpolitik is the name of the day, which makes sense. The Siloviki earned their bones in the Soviet Union as Communists, but are mostly conservative and statocratic. They don't exactly ooze with ideology.

by **The Supreme Magnificent High Swaglord** » Tue Jun 11, 2019 5:21 am

Old Tyrannia wrote:RWDT regulars as films:
Me: Elizabeth (1998)

Swaglord: Brazil (1985)

UMN: Nicholas and Alexandra (1971)

Hanafuridake: Lady Snowblood (1973)

Fahran: Fidder on the Roof (1971)

Salus Maior: The Leopard (1963)

OEP: The Birth of a Nation (1915)

Nea Byzantia: 300 (2006)

Conserative Morality: Casablanca (1942)

Bienenhalde: Labyrinth (1986)

Bear Stearns: The Wolf of Wall Street (2013)

Diopolis: Day of Wrath (1943)

Xenopolis: Transformers (2007)

Novus America: Team America: World Police (2004)

I'm open to suggestions for further listings.

If I'm allowed to ask, is there a reason why I'm Brazil? I mean, I have some suspicions as to the reason, but I'd like to read what you thought.

by **Diopolis** » Tue Jun 11, 2019 6:14 am

The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
>tfw the ultra liberal gay Christian monarchist thinks other peoples views are degenerate

Big thonk, outside of Seattle and Portland most of the people around here are probably a lot more conservative than you.

Isn't Bienhalde an anti-liberal, communitarian, traditionalist monarchist? The liberal opinion he seems to have is gay marriage. And gay marriage is not degenerate, so there's no real hypocrisy there. And do you think the rural US is feudal Germany or something? I don't see how the rural US could be more conservative than Bienhalde.

>Gay "marriage"
>"Not degenerate"

by **Diopolis** » Tue Jun 11, 2019 6:20 am

Old Tyrannia wrote:RWDT regulars as films:
Me: Elizabeth (1998)

Swaglord: Brazil (1985)

UMN: Nicholas and Alexandra (1971)

Hanafuridake: Lady Snowblood (1973)

Fahran: Fidder on the Roof (1971)

Salus Maior: The Leopard (1963)

OEP: The Birth of a Nation (1915)

Nea Byzantia: 300 (2006)

Conserative Morality: Casablanca (1942)

Bienenhalde: Labyrinth (1986)

Bear Stearns: The Wolf of Wall Street (2013)

Diopolis: Day of Wrath (1943)

Xenopolis: Transformers (2007)

Novus America: Team America: World Police (2004)

I'm open to suggestions for further listings.

You know, the more I think about it, the more it does sound like me.

by **Nova Cyberia** » Tue Jun 11, 2019 6:26 am

Hot take: the current neoliberal world order is worthless and should be thoroughly dismantled.

by **Nea Byzantia** » Tue Jun 11, 2019 6:31 am

Hanafuridake wrote:If you want to crown yourself monarch, you're not really a good monarchist.

You do realize I wasn't being serious, right?

by **Nea Byzantia** » Tue Jun 11, 2019 6:32 am

Old Tyrannia wrote:RWDT regulars as films:
Me: Elizabeth (1998)

Swaglord: Brazil (1985)

UMN: Nicholas and Alexandra (1971)

Hanafuridake: Lady Snowblood (1973)

Fahran: Fidder on the Roof (1971)

Salus Maior: The Leopard (1963)

OEP: The Birth of a Nation (1915)

Nea Byzantia: 300 (2006)

Conserative Morality: Casablanca (1942)

Bienenhalde: Labyrinth (1986)

Bear Stearns: The Wolf of Wall Street (2013)

Diopolis: Day of Wrath (1943)

Xenopolis: Transformers (2007)

Novus America: Team America: World Police (2004)

I'm open to suggestions for further listings.

This is awesome, thank you

by **Nea Byzantia** » Tue Jun 11, 2019 6:40 am

Conserative Morality wrote:
Old Tyrannia wrote:RWDT regulars as films:
Me: Elizabeth (1998)

Hanafuridake: Lady Snowblood (1973)

Weaboo Scum!

by **The Xenopolis Confederation** » Tue Jun 11, 2019 6:46 am

Diopolis wrote:
The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:Isn't Bienhalde an anti-liberal, communitarian, traditionalist monarchist? The liberal opinion he seems to have is gay marriage. And gay marriage is not degenerate, so there's no real hypocrisy there. And do you think the rural US is feudal Germany or something? I don't see how the rural US could be more conservative than Bienhalde.

>Gay "marriage"
>"Not degenerate"

But it isn't degenerate.

by **Diopolis** » Tue Jun 11, 2019 6:48 am

The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:
Diopolis wrote:>Gay "marriage"
>"Not degenerate"

But it isn't degenerate.

>Redefines marriage to accommodate personal lusts.
>Separates marriage as an institution from its purpose and symbolism.
>"Not degenerate"

by **Nea Byzantia** » Tue Jun 11, 2019 6:48 am

The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:
Diopolis wrote:>Gay "marriage"
>"Not degenerate"

But it isn't degenerate.

But it is. The anus is not a sex-organ.

by **Nova Cyberia** » Tue Jun 11, 2019 6:49 am

Nea Byzantia wrote:
The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:But it isn't degenerate.

But it is. The anus is not a sex-organ.

Neither is the mouth, really.

And yet...

by **Nea Byzantia** » Tue Jun 11, 2019 6:50 am

Nova Cyberia wrote:
Nea Byzantia wrote:But it is. The anus is not a sex-organ.

Neither is the mouth, really.

And yet...

That's also degenerate; for the same reason.

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