Right-Wing Discussion Thread XVI: Making Things Right Again

[Cappuccina]

Honestly, I doubt anyone was expecting the aftermath of the Great War to be even remotely worse than the hell that was the war itself, and yet here we are.

Truly, WWI was a disaster for the West, if not the entire world.

It was also good in some ways, it destroyed to decrepit empires (Austria-Hungary, Ottoman Empire, Russian Empire) paving the way for states that were more modernized. The sad part is that Germany was ruined, and France lost almost an entire generation of young men.

[Novus America]

I am growing more favorable to a alternative history where the US gets revenge on the UK and France for them arming the Confederacy and joins the Central Powers.
Would be interesting to say the least.

[Asherahan]

I am growing more favorable to a alternative history where the US gets revenge on the UK and France for them arming the Confederacy and joins the Central Powers.
Would be interesting to say the least.

US Imperialism TM.

[Salus Maior]

Truly, WWI was a disaster for the West, if not the entire world.

It was also good in some ways, it destroyed to decrepit empires (Austria-Hungary, Ottoman Empire, Russian Empire) paving the way for states that were more modernized. The sad part is that Germany was ruined, and France lost almost an entire generation of young men.

Austria I think could have been revitalized if it weren't for the war. Both Franz Ferdinand and Karl were very forward thinking and interested in federalization and modernization, and I think they would have been able to pull it off if they were given the chance.

[Salus Maior]

I am growing more favorable to a alternative history where the US gets revenge on the UK and France for them arming the Confederacy and joins the Central Powers.
Would be interesting to say the least.

US Imperialism TM.

But that already exists.

[Novus America]

US Imperialism TM.

But that already exists.

But IRL we greatly limited it.
We turned down numerous opportunities.
In an alternative maybe we go all out like the UK.

[Nova Cyberia]

I am growing more favorable to a alternative history where the US gets revenge on the UK and France for them arming the Confederacy and joins the Central Powers.
Would be interesting to say the least.

The superior version of history.

[Conserative Morality]

I am growing more favorable to a alternative history where the US gets revenge on the UK and France for them arming the Confederacy and joins the Central Powers.
Would be interesting to say the least.

1866 we invade Mexico and claim it as war reparations from the French before Emperor Maximilian is killed and we lose our chance

1867 we invade Canada and take it as war reparations from the British

I see no possible way either of things can go wrong

Who need a German when you got M O N R O E in your backyard?

[Novus America]

I am growing more favorable to a alternative history where the US gets revenge on the UK and France for them arming the Confederacy and joins the Central Powers.
Would be interesting to say the least.

The superior version of history.

Well the US would easily overrun Canada for sure.
But it would be an epic naval war with the US and Germany fighting France, Japan and the UK.

Though I think US economic superiority would give the US victory.
We could out build the others, and France would be knocked out if the Germans overran it.

[Nova Cyberia]

The superior version of history.

Well the US would easily overrun Canada for sure.
But it would be an epic naval war with the US and Germany fighting France, Japan and the UK.

Though I think US economic superiority would give the US victory.
We could out build the others, and France would be knocked out if the Germans overran it.

The US would undoubtedly win. The German Empire had the second-largest economy in the world by the time WW1 began. Germany allied with the US would essentially be unstoppable.

[The Xenopolis Confederation]

I am growing more favorable to a alternative history where the US gets revenge on the UK and France for them arming the Confederacy and joins the Central Powers.
Would be interesting to say the least.

1866 we invade Mexico and claim it as war reparations from the French before Emperor Maximilian is killed and we lose our chance

1867 we invade Canada and take it as war reparations from the British

I see no possible way either of things can go wrong

Who need a German when you got M O N R O E in your backyard?

Is national sovereignty a joke to you?

[The Xenopolis Confederation]

Well the US would easily overrun Canada for sure.
But it would be an epic naval war with the US and Germany fighting France, Japan and the UK.

Though I think US economic superiority would give the US victory.
We could out build the others, and France would be knocked out if the Germans overran it.

The US would undoubtedly win. The German Empire had the second-largest economy in the world by the time WW1 began. Germany allied with the US would essentially be unstoppable.

Why do we want the central powers to win? If the central powers had won, monarchism might still be alive in western political discourse, and who wants that? Oh wait.

[Conserative Morality]

1866 we invade Mexico and claim it as war reparations from the French before Emperor Maximilian is killed and we lose our chance

1867 we invade Canada and take it as war reparations from the British

I see no possible way either of things can go wrong

Who need a German when you got M O N R O E in your backyard?

Is national sovereignty a joke to you?

Yes, the Peace of Westphalia was a mistake.

[Novus America]

Well the US would easily overrun Canada for sure.
But it would be an epic naval war with the US and Germany fighting France, Japan and the UK.

Though I think US economic superiority would give the US victory.
We could out build the others, and France would be knocked out if the Germans overran it.

The US would undoubtedly win. The German Empire had the second-largest economy in the world by the time WW1 began. Germany allied with the US would essentially be unstoppable.

Yes, I just do not see how they could match us in shipbuilding long term.

Especially when France would collapse without US economic support too, and be forced out.

The combined US German fleet could overwhelm the British and force a surrender via blockade.
After that it would be just mopping up the Japanese.

[Nakena]

The US would undoubtedly win. The German Empire had the second-largest economy in the world by the time WW1 began. Germany allied with the US would essentially be unstoppable.

Why do we want the central powers to win? If the central powers had won, monarchism might still be alive in western political discourse, and who wants that? Oh wait.

Germany and Austria-Hungary were constitutional monarchies already, with large amounts of social democrats and liberals in their parliaments present.

[Hakons]

Truly, WWI was a disaster for the West, if not the entire world.

It was also good in some ways, it destroyed to decrepit empires (Austria-Hungary, Ottoman Empire, Russian Empire) paving the way for states that were more modernized. The sad part is that Germany was ruined, and France lost almost an entire generation of young men.

What came out of the destroyed "decrepit" Russian Empire and German Empire were some of the worst ideologies, genocide, and human misery that humans have ever produced. I would much rather have a 'backward' Russian Empire than a genocidal/demonic USSR.

[The Xenopolis Confederation]

Is national sovereignty a joke to you?

Yes, the Peace of Westphalia was a mistake.

Thank you for showing what happens when you disregard the concept of national sovereignty.

[Conserative Morality]

What came out of the destroyed "decrepit" Russian Empire and German Empire were some of the worst ideologies, genocide, and human misery that humans have ever produced. I would much rather have a 'backward' Russian Empire than a genocidal/demonic USSR.

Would we ever have learned our lesson without such a horrific example, though?

[Nova Cyberia]

The US would undoubtedly win. The German Empire had the second-largest economy in the world by the time WW1 began. Germany allied with the US would essentially be unstoppable.

Why do we want the central powers to win? If the central powers had won, monarchism might still be alive in western political discourse, and who wants that? Oh wait.

Well, according to this scenario we want them to win as revenge for the French and British arming the Confederacy.

[Conserative Morality]

Yes, the Peace of Westphalia was a mistake.

Thank you for showing what happens when you disregard the concept of national sovereignty.

PEACE! THROUGH! POWER!

[The Xenopolis Confederation]

Thank you for showing what happens when you disregard the concept of national sovereignty.

PEACE! THROUGH! POWER!

If you start to sound like a superhero villain, you might have a bad ideology...

[Novus America]

Why do we want the central powers to win? If the central powers had won, monarchism might still be alive in western political discourse, and who wants that? Oh wait.

Germany and Austria-Hungary were constitutional monarchies already, with large amounts of social democrats and liberals in their parliaments present.

Plus we would be fighting against the British and Japanese monarchies.

Also the Russian Empire still falls.

[Hakons]

What came out of the destroyed "decrepit" Russian Empire and German Empire were some of the worst ideologies, genocide, and human misery that humans have ever produced. I would much rather have a 'backward' Russian Empire than a genocidal/demonic USSR.

Would we ever have learned our lesson without such a horrific example, though?

I'm not all to sure which example you're referring to, but we didn't learn our lesson from WWI, and anti-democratic forces seem to be gaining strength in some areas of the world and online thought.

[Conserative Morality]

PEACE! THROUGH! POWER!

If you start to sound like a superhero villain, you might have a bad ideology...

[Conserative Morality]

I'm not all to sure which example you're referring to, but we didn't learn our lesson from WWI, and anti-democratic forces seem to be gaining strength in some areas of the world and online thought.

WW2. We learned our lesson from what spawned from WW1. Namely, "Genocide bad", "Racism is anti-democratic", "Hating Jews is really shitty", "If you build a line of impenetrable fortresses along the border it needs to go all the way around"