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Do you consider nationalism and patriotism synoymous?

Yes- I am a nationalist and a patriot
115
26%
No- I am a nationalist and a patriot
52
12%
No- I am a nationalist, not a patriot
43
10%
No- I am a patriot, not a nationalist
147
33%
Yes- I am neither a nationalist nor a patriot
18
4%
No- I am neither a nationalist nor a patriot
68
15%
 
Total votes : 443

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Totally Not OEP
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Ex-Nation

Postby Totally Not OEP » Mon May 20, 2019 7:19 am

The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:
Totally Not OEP wrote:
I <3 My Choppa

Are you threatening me? :eyebrow:


It's literally a song.
We shoot .223's
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The Xenopolis Confederation
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Anarchy

Postby The Xenopolis Confederation » Mon May 20, 2019 7:21 am

Totally Not OEP wrote:
The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:Are you threatening me? :eyebrow:


It's literally a song.

Suuuuuuure it is.
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Totally Not OEP
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Ex-Nation

Postby Totally Not OEP » Mon May 20, 2019 7:26 am

The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:

Suuuuuuure it is.


The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:
Totally Not OEP wrote:
You should see my Spotify playlist.

I'm guessing it's not minecraft parodies and 80s to 00s pop.
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The Supreme Magnificent High Swaglord
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Ex-Nation

Postby The Supreme Magnificent High Swaglord » Mon May 20, 2019 8:18 am

My Spotify playlists consist of American patriotic music, disco, funk, city pop, 1970s soft rock, 1970s hard rock, power metal, and so on. I'm fairly certain that y'all can figure out the rest of my musical tastes.
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Genivaria
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Postby Genivaria » Mon May 20, 2019 12:57 pm

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Postby West Leas Oros 2 » Mon May 20, 2019 1:15 pm

Hanafuridake wrote:We should genetically engineer humans to be anime girls.

What shouldn't be genetically engineered to be anime girls?
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Washington Resistance Army
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Mon May 20, 2019 1:41 pm

We should hold an RWDT anime burning.
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Bienenhalde
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Authoritarian Democracy

Postby Bienenhalde » Mon May 20, 2019 1:50 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:We should hold an RWDT anime burning.


To be honest, I was not so sure about the genetic engineering part. Actually, I think anime exists in a higher realm of manifestation above the realm of corrupted and impure matter in which we currently exist. :^)
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Washington Resistance Army
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Mon May 20, 2019 1:53 pm

Bienenhalde wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:We should hold an RWDT anime burning.


To be honest, I was not so sure about the genetic engineering part. Actually, I think anime exists in a higher realm of manifestation above the realm of corrupted and impure matter in which we currently exist. :^)


Look inside yourself and you too will see anime is corrupt and impure. As a conservative it's your duty to crush this vile and degenerate influence from harming our youth anymore!
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Australian gun control didn't work. A rebuttal to the "well regulated militia" argument.

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Benuty
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Democratic Socialists

Postby Benuty » Mon May 20, 2019 2:13 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Bienenhalde wrote:
To be honest, I was not so sure about the genetic engineering part. Actually, I think anime exists in a higher realm of manifestation above the realm of corrupted and impure matter in which we currently exist. :^)


Look inside yourself and you too will see anime is corrupt and impure. As a conservative, it's your duty to crush this vile and degenerate influence from harming our youth anymore!

If you want to purge vile, and degenerate influence you take away one of the most powerful tools in existence. The constant, and incessant ability to rally between pro-life, and pro-choice. It's not your body or your choice if gestation occurs entirely away from the body, and pregnancy is no longer a political tool.

Also, anime is hardly the worst tool of degeneracy out there given there are far worse things. If you wanted to truly purge the U.S of degeneracy television, and movies would have to be snapped out an existence. Only then can the glorious days of the radio return to triumph!
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Hanafuridake
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Corrupt Dictatorship

Postby Hanafuridake » Mon May 20, 2019 2:16 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:We should hold an RWDT anime burning.


Come on, don't pretend you don't watch Youjo Senki.
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Torrocca
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Democratic Socialists

Postby Torrocca » Mon May 20, 2019 2:16 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:We should hold an RWDT anime burning.


Right-wingers failing to secure the hearts and minds of the weeb is yet another reason why Communism will ultimately win :^)
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Postby Benuty » Mon May 20, 2019 2:17 pm

Torrocca wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:We should hold an RWDT anime burning.


Right-wingers failing to secure the hearts and minds of the weeb is yet another reason why Communism will ultimately win :^)

Communism failed to win the moment any actual decent ones got the bullet by their allies.
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Postby Benuty » Mon May 20, 2019 2:20 pm

Hanafuridake wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:We should hold an RWDT anime burning.


Come on, don't pretend you don't watch Youjo Senki.

I much rather prefer My Hero Academia. Tanya is just a bit too whingy for my tastes so Barron Trump can have them.
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Father Knows Best State

Postby Washington Resistance Army » Mon May 20, 2019 2:22 pm

Torrocca wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:We should hold an RWDT anime burning.


Right-wingers failing to secure the hearts and minds of the weeb is yet another reason why Communism will ultimately win :^)


Communism won't win because apart from some Maoist groups out there none of you are willing to fight anymore.
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Postby Benuty » Mon May 20, 2019 2:24 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
Right-wingers failing to secure the hearts and minds of the weeb is yet another reason why Communism will ultimately win :^)


Communism won't win because apart from some Maoist groups out there none of you are willing to fight anymore.

Maoism created some of the edgiest ethnic-nationalists in existence ironically enough. I cannot remember the ladies name, but google doodles featured her, and her wiki page is some very contradictory stuff.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Mon May 20, 2019 2:26 pm

Benuty wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Communism won't win because apart from some Maoist groups out there none of you are willing to fight anymore.

Maoism created some of the edgiest ethnic-nationalists in existence ironically enough. I cannot remember the ladies name, but google doodles featured her, and her wiki page is some very contradictory stuff.


Yeah there's a really weird Maoist to Nazi pipeline and I'm perplexed as to why such a thing exists.
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Australian gun control didn't work. A rebuttal to the "well regulated militia" argument.

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Democratic Socialists

Postby Torrocca » Mon May 20, 2019 2:26 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
Right-wingers failing to secure the hearts and minds of the weeb is yet another reason why Communism will ultimately win :^)


Communism won't win because apart from some Maoist groups out there none of you are willing to fight anymore.


Lel, literal fake news.
Communist now and forever.
I am Her Majesty, Torra I, of the House Anarkittismo, NS's self-anointed Anarcho-Monarchist Queen. Now known as God-Empress Torra.
"Fascism is not debated, it is destroyed." - [b]Buenaventura Durruti

"When the people are being hit with a stick, they are not happier if the stick is called “the stick of the people”. The State is an oppression that must be abolished."
I go by Torra and feminine pronouns! They/Them/Their are perfectly acceptable alternatives as well :3
Suggestions welcome!

Capital - Karl Marx and Frederich Engels
Wage Labor and Capital - Karl Marx
The Conquest of Bread - Peter Kropotkin
Mutual Aid - Peter Kropotkin
Statism and Anarchy - Mikhail Bakunin

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Father Knows Best State

Postby Washington Resistance Army » Mon May 20, 2019 2:28 pm

Torrocca wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Communism won't win because apart from some Maoist groups out there none of you are willing to fight anymore.


Lel, literal fake news.


Embrace the Peoples War Torra. Anything less will lead to the fash winning.
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Blessed and fortunate is he who knowing the sacred rites of the Gods leads a pure life.
Australian gun control didn't work. A rebuttal to the "well regulated militia" argument.

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Democratic Socialists

Postby Torrocca » Mon May 20, 2019 2:30 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
Lel, literal fake news.


Embrace the Peoples War Torra. Anything less will lead to the fash winning.


I am the People's War. Fear me >:3
Communist now and forever.
I am Her Majesty, Torra I, of the House Anarkittismo, NS's self-anointed Anarcho-Monarchist Queen. Now known as God-Empress Torra.
"Fascism is not debated, it is destroyed." - [b]Buenaventura Durruti

"When the people are being hit with a stick, they are not happier if the stick is called “the stick of the people”. The State is an oppression that must be abolished."
I go by Torra and feminine pronouns! They/Them/Their are perfectly acceptable alternatives as well :3
Suggestions welcome!

Capital - Karl Marx and Frederich Engels
Wage Labor and Capital - Karl Marx
The Conquest of Bread - Peter Kropotkin
Mutual Aid - Peter Kropotkin
Statism and Anarchy - Mikhail Bakunin

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Proctopeo
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Anarchy

Postby Proctopeo » Mon May 20, 2019 2:31 pm

Torrocca wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Communism won't win because apart from some Maoist groups out there none of you are willing to fight anymore.


Lel, literal fake news.

There were the "fights" antifa had with various groups but I strain to call the activity from either side in any of those encounters "fighting"
more "wildly flailing around with blunt objects and also some asshole brought fireworks because they saw it in a movie once" than "fighting"

outside of the bike lock bandit's attempt at cold-blooded murder it's mostly just people who are all bark and no bite who'd get utterly creamed if they had to fight anyone actually worth their weight in battle, instead of inanimate objects and fellow disorganized mobs
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Postby Benuty » Mon May 20, 2019 2:32 pm

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yuri_Kochiyama

Very interesting figure nonetheless.
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Father Knows Best State

Postby Washington Resistance Army » Mon May 20, 2019 2:37 pm

Proctopeo wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
Lel, literal fake news.

There were the "fights" antifa had with various groups but I strain to call the activity from either side in any of those encounters "fighting"
more "wildly flailing around with blunt objects and also some asshole brought fireworks because they saw it in a movie once" than "fighting"

outside of the bike lock bandit's attempt at cold-blooded murder it's mostly just people who are all bark and no bite who'd get utterly creamed if they had to fight anyone actually worth their weight in battle, instead of inanimate objects and fellow disorganized mobs


This tbh. The Fash and the Nazis are gunning people down with increasing regularity and are fully committed to a total war mentality and want to tear down everything that currently exists. The other side is content to shout slogans and counter protest but that does nothing and they just keep getting more and more power.

I guess that's the scary thing about those ideologies, isn't it? You can't beat them with words, you have to, in a way, become them and use their own methods to put them down. Anything less will lead to it just continually coming back.
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Australian gun control didn't work. A rebuttal to the "well regulated militia" argument.

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Proctopeo
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Anarchy

Postby Proctopeo » Mon May 20, 2019 2:39 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Proctopeo wrote:There were the "fights" antifa had with various groups but I strain to call the activity from either side in any of those encounters "fighting"
more "wildly flailing around with blunt objects and also some asshole brought fireworks because they saw it in a movie once" than "fighting"

outside of the bike lock bandit's attempt at cold-blooded murder it's mostly just people who are all bark and no bite who'd get utterly creamed if they had to fight anyone actually worth their weight in battle, instead of inanimate objects and fellow disorganized mobs


This tbh. The Fash and the Nazis are gunning people down with increasing regularity and are fully committed to a total war mentality and want to tear down everything that currently exists. The other side is content to shout slogans and counter protest but that does nothing and they just keep getting more and more power.

I guess that's the scary thing about those ideologies, isn't it? You can't beat them with words, you have to, in a way, become them and use their own methods to put them down. Anything less will lead to it just continually coming back.

The answer, my friend, is pizza. Free pizza laced with C4. Then you fine their families for the cost of the C4.
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Corrupt Dictatorship

Postby Hanafuridake » Mon May 20, 2019 2:42 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
Right-wingers failing to secure the hearts and minds of the weeb is yet another reason why Communism will ultimately win :^)


Communism won't win because apart from some Maoist groups out there none of you are willing to fight anymore.


Antifa are the new Jews for the Far-Right.

They're simultaneously whining rotters and a violent threat to Western civilization.
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