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Do you consider nationalism and patriotism synoymous?

Yes- I am a nationalist and a patriot
115
26%
No- I am a nationalist and a patriot
52
12%
No- I am a nationalist, not a patriot
43
10%
No- I am a patriot, not a nationalist
147
33%
Yes- I am neither a nationalist nor a patriot
18
4%
No- I am neither a nationalist nor a patriot
68
15%
 
Total votes : 443
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Washington Resistance Army
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Fri May 17, 2019 1:14 pm

Communist Zombie Horde wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
We should put steroids and aggression heightening drugs into the water supply to make superior American uberfolk tbh

American are already superior


We can always go further, no?
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West Leas Oros 2
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Postby West Leas Oros 2 » Fri May 17, 2019 1:15 pm

Communist Zombie Horde wrote:
West Leas Oros 2 wrote:Literally everything sounds like Marxism to you, mainly because you don't know what marxism is.

Literally every thing sounds like fascist imperialism to you

Except it doesn't. It also sounds like identity politics, capitalist liberalism, or stalinist revisionism sometimes. We trots have a diverse range of scapegoats :p
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Postby Diopolis » Fri May 17, 2019 1:17 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Communist Zombie Horde wrote:American are already superior


We can always go further, no?

Not before character development.
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Nova Cyberia
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Postby Nova Cyberia » Fri May 17, 2019 1:25 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
The Supreme Magnificent High Swaglord wrote:
First, a question: do you support placing nootropics and docility-inducing/aggression-reducing drugs into the water supply in order to improve the mental health of the citizenry?


We should put steroids and aggression heightening drugs into the water supply to make superior American uberfolk tbh

I welcome the rise of the American Übermensch.
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Postby Galloism » Fri May 17, 2019 1:52 pm

The Supreme Magnificent High Swaglord wrote:
Galloism wrote:I think there was a movie about that...


THX 1138, you mean? I liked that film; it gave me some pretty neat ideas for statesmanship. :)

I was thinking Serenity.
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The New California Republic
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Postby The New California Republic » Fri May 17, 2019 1:57 pm

The Supreme Magnificent High Swaglord wrote:
Galloism wrote:I think there was a movie about that...

THX 1138, you mean? I liked that film; it gave me some pretty neat ideas for statesmanship. :)

It was...alright. It wasn't the best in my opinion. It was merely "meh..."
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The Supreme Magnificent High Swaglord
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Postby The Supreme Magnificent High Swaglord » Fri May 17, 2019 2:12 pm

Galloism wrote:
The Supreme Magnificent High Swaglord wrote:
THX 1138, you mean? I liked that film; it gave me some pretty neat ideas for statesmanship. :)

I was thinking Serenity.


I've never seen Serenity, though I've heard that it's good.
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Postby Camelone » Fri May 17, 2019 2:39 pm

The Supreme Magnificent High Swaglord wrote:
Galloism wrote:I was thinking Serenity.


I've never seen Serenity, though I've heard that it's good.

Ever watch the series Firefly?
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The Supreme Magnificent High Swaglord
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Postby The Supreme Magnificent High Swaglord » Fri May 17, 2019 2:42 pm

Camelone wrote:
The Supreme Magnificent High Swaglord wrote:
I've never seen Serenity, though I've heard that it's good.

Ever watch the series Firefly?


Again, I'm familiar with it, but I haven't seen it personally.
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My NS stats are not indicative of my OOC views. NS stats are meant to be rather silly. My OOC political and ideological inspirations are as such:
The Republic, by Plato | Leviathan, by Thomas Hobbes | The Confucian civil service system of imperial China | The "Golden Liberty" elective
monarchy system of the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth | The corporatist/technocratic philosophy of Henri de Saint-Simon | The communitarian
ideological framework of the Singaporean People's Action Party | "New Deal"-style societal regimentation | Kantian/Mohist/Stoic philosophy
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Galloism
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Postby Galloism » Fri May 17, 2019 2:42 pm

The Supreme Magnificent High Swaglord wrote:
Galloism wrote:I was thinking Serenity.


I've never seen Serenity, though I've heard that it's good.

I highly recommend it.
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The Parkus Empire: Being serious on NSG is like wearing a suit to a nude beach.
New Kereptica: Since power is changed energy over time, an increase in power would mean, in this case, an increase in energy. As energy is equivalent to mass and the density of the government is static, the volume of the government must increase.

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Camelone
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Postby Camelone » Fri May 17, 2019 2:46 pm

The Supreme Magnificent High Swaglord wrote:
Camelone wrote:Ever watch the series Firefly?


Again, I'm familiar with it, but I haven't seen it personally.

In the show the central government experiments with drugs to pacify a population and ends up working to well leading 95.5% of a planets population deciding that laying around and wasting away was better than moving. The surviving .5% became hyper-aggressive uber stereotype Apaches in space.
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Ave Rex Christus!

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Postby Communist Zombie Horde » Fri May 17, 2019 2:47 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Communist Zombie Horde wrote:American are already superior


We can always go further, no?

I guess. We should start human genetic engineering now to make us stronger and assistance of muscles with robotic parts. I will welcome a first generation of super humans if they are Americans.
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Postby Hanafuridake » Fri May 17, 2019 2:54 pm

We should genetically engineer humans to be anime girls.
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Postby Hammer Britannia » Fri May 17, 2019 2:56 pm

Hanafuridake wrote:We should genetically engineer humans to be anime girls.

No
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Postby Proctopeo » Fri May 17, 2019 2:56 pm

Hanafuridake wrote:We should genetically engineer humans to be anime girls.

80s anime, modern anime, or 2000s moe anime?
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Hammer Britannia
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Postby Hammer Britannia » Fri May 17, 2019 2:57 pm

Proctopeo wrote:
Hanafuridake wrote:We should genetically engineer humans to be anime girls.

80s anime, modern anime, or 2000s moe anime?

60s
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Nova Cyberia
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Postby Nova Cyberia » Fri May 17, 2019 2:57 pm

Hanafuridake wrote:We should genetically engineer humans to be anime girls.

At that point I think a nuclear winter would be preferable.
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Communist Zombie Horde
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Postby Communist Zombie Horde » Fri May 17, 2019 2:58 pm

Hanafuridake wrote:We should genetically engineer humans to be anime girls.

Not us men.
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Hanafuridake
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Postby Hanafuridake » Fri May 17, 2019 3:00 pm

Communist Zombie Horde wrote:
Hanafuridake wrote:We should genetically engineer humans to be anime girls.

Not us men.


Especially you men.

Just estrogen in everything.
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Postby Bienenhalde » Fri May 17, 2019 3:05 pm

Communist Zombie Horde wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
We should put steroids and aggression heightening drugs into the water supply to make superior American uberfolk tbh

American are already superior


If Americans are really so great, why did we choose that degenerate fool Trump to be our president?
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Nova Cyberia
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Postby Nova Cyberia » Fri May 17, 2019 3:06 pm

Bienenhalde wrote:
Communist Zombie Horde wrote:American are already superior


If Americans are really so great, why did we choose that degenerate fool Trump to be our president?

We wanted The Wall(TM), I guess.
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Postby Hammer Britannia » Fri May 17, 2019 3:07 pm

Bienenhalde wrote:
Communist Zombie Horde wrote:American are already superior


If Americans are really so great, why did we choose that degenerate fool Trump to be our president?

The Russians picked Trump, not us
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Bienenhalde
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Postby Bienenhalde » Fri May 17, 2019 3:09 pm

Hanafuridake wrote:We should genetically engineer humans to be anime girls.


What about anime boys?
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Postby LiberNovusAmericae » Fri May 17, 2019 3:15 pm

Hammer Britannia wrote:
Bienenhalde wrote:
If Americans are really so great, why did we choose that degenerate fool Trump to be our president?

The Russians picked Trump, not us

He ain't Putin's puppet. The Democrats nominated a shit candidate and thought that all they needed to do to win is not be Trump, and it blew up in their face. Trump convinced people that he fought against a corrupt establishment, and the people who are loathing of business as usual ate it up. Mainstream politics is corrupt, and Trump was able to use public discontent to get elected.
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Postby Duhon » Fri May 17, 2019 3:47 pm

Bienenhalde wrote:
Hanafuridake wrote:We should genetically engineer humans to be anime girls.


What about anime boys?


So the Saber Marionette universe, then.
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