Right-Wing Discussion Thread XVI: Making Things Right Again

[Conserative Morality]

You’re talking to a man who, iirc, went on a tirade about his civic religion, or something about America being his one-above-all. It was quite spectacular.

Thank you!

[FelrikTheDeleted]

You’re talking to a man who, iirc, went on a tirade about his civic religion, or something about America being his one-above-all. It was quite spectacular.

Thank you!

You’re welcome. It provided a considerable amount of entertainment on the day it happened.

[The Xenopolis Confederation]

First step to combat homophobia: disavow anyone who's statistically likely to be a homophobe
Really I'm just copping a tactic I've seen from the left: assume anyone who's Christian is a homophobe from the outset. I just changed it from the religion backed by Jesus to the religion backed by Mohammed.

I see you're still salty about how Torra pussywhipped you in the Discord.

Let's not bring even more drama into this.

[Conserative Morality]

Seeing from your recent posts? I mean, there's suspicion based on recent precedents, and then there's paranoia.

It's not suspicion, it's a discussion of principles. I don't think that it's going to be an issue of "cHrIsTIanS rISe uP" but that with an overlaying loyalty to another, often opposed worldview, by definition in any conflict with the two the overlaying loyalty will take precedence in terms of loyalty and action.

Consider it like the issue of loyalty of immigrants to the home country vs. the new land. Sure, we may not be invaded by Uganda anytime soon, but does that mean that a loyalty of immigrants to the home country over the nation they immigrated to is acceptable?

[Kowani]

Gimme a quick one for both, if you would be so kind.

As a whole, America has been defined by it's adherence to the ideals of personal independence, in that any individual can live comfortably by their own work and merit regardless of background; and freedom of expression, in that anyone may express any opinion and or idea freely without state repression. People may argue that there are other virtues - but these I think have been constants with contest, from independence to modern times.

No, actually. Lip service was paid to those ideals, but they were not upheld in the physical realm.

[Conserative Morality]

It's complete nonsense which would absolutely destroy morality. Sophie Scholl would be labeled a traitor by German CM because of her liberal ideology.

And why is that?

[LiberNovusAmericae]

Calling it horseshit won't bring back the countless innocents who were murdered at the Church's exhortation.

I would regard anyone who regards their race above their nation the same way, tbqh.

You make it seem as if one should have loyalty to the nation above all. That seems a rather jingoistic sentiment in my opinion.

By nation, I think he mainly means the state. It is very Jingoistic, just like the Jacobins were.

Edit: I do not support Christianity or religion in general. Do not think this is a a response to CM's views on religion.

[Napkizemlja]

Seeing from your recent posts? I mean, there's suspicion based on recent precedents, and then there's paranoia.

It's not suspicion, it's a discussion of principles. I don't think that it's going to be an issue of "cHrIsTIanS rISe uP" but that with an overlaying loyalty to another, often opposed worldview, by definition in any conflict with the two the overlaying loyalty will take precedence in terms of loyalty and action.

Consider it like the issue of loyalty of immigrants to the home country vs. the new land. Sure, we may not be invaded by Uganda anytime soon, but does that mean that a loyalty of immigrants to the home country over the nation they immigrated to is acceptable?

#MAGA

[Camelone]

You make it seem as if one should have loyalty to the nation above all. That seems a rather jingoistic sentiment in my opinion.

By nation, I think he mainly means the state. It is very Jingoistic, just like the Jacobins were.

So is CM a neo-Jacobin pretty much?

[Conserative Morality]

In acknowledging the founding and constant virtues of the United States, you often despair the history and traditions with which prior generations of American viewed these virtues - which in turn would come to influence how modern generations view them.

The idea of personal independence and freedom of expression are, in it of themselves, not unique to the United States. Other states across the world also uphold these values. What makes them unique to America, is how we ( as a nation ) have interperated these virtues throughout our history.

Upholding virtues alone is ideology. Upholding your nation's interpratations of these virtues is patriotism.

We've interpreted them very poorly throughout our history. Am I to look back at the murder of Native Americans who not only sought peace, but integration with the US as an expression of our values? Is that view patriotism? What about the effective prohibition of black people to vote? Slavery? Segregation? Woodrow Wilson!?

The fact of the matter is that as America is predicated upon independence, it would only make sense for an individual to interpret her values as an independent soul. By this standard, one might say that adhering to traditional interpretations for their own sake rather than because of a genuine attachment to them is far more unamerican.

[LiberNovusAmericae]

By nation, I think he mainly means the state. It is very Jingoistic, just like the Jacobins were.

So is CM a neo-Jacobin pretty much?

He apologizes for the reign of terror, so yes. I would describe him as such.

[Conserative Morality]

By nation, I think he mainly means the state. It is very Jingoistic, just like the Jacobins were.

So is CM a neo-Jacobin pretty much?

Aux Armes, Citoyens =^)

[Hakons]

Another wild couple of pages there, haha. Thanks everyone for standing up for basic decency towards Christians!

[The Supreme Magnificent High Swaglord]

Another wild couple of pages there, haha. Thanks everyone for standing up for basic decency towards Christians!

My apologies if I didn’t get sufficiently involved; in my defense, however, what I wished to say to CM may have crossed the boundaries of site rules regarding proper cordiality and etiquette.

[The Xenopolis Confederation]

As a whole, America has been defined by it's adherence to the ideals of personal independence, in that any individual can live comfortably by their own work and merit regardless of background; and freedom of expression, in that anyone may express any opinion and or idea freely without state repression. People may argue that there are other virtues - but these I think have been constants with contest, from independence to modern times.

No, actually. Lip service was paid to those ideals, but they were not upheld in the physical realm.

Sometimes they were. Not enough, but sometimes.

[Duhon]

Another wild couple of pages there, haha. Thanks everyone for standing up for basic decency towards Christians!

Eh, I'm a literary leech, I do what I can.

[LiberNovusAmericae]

Another wild couple of pages there, haha. Thanks everyone for standing up for basic decency towards Christians!

My apologies if I didn’t get sufficiently involved; in my defense, however, what I wished to say to CM may have crossed the boundaries of site rules regarding proper cordiality and etiquette.

Then report those posts you think are in violation.

[Hakons]

Another wild couple of pages there, haha. Thanks everyone for standing up for basic decency towards Christians!

My apologies if I didn’t get sufficiently involved; in my defense, however, what I wished to say to CM may have crossed the boundaries of site rules regarding proper cordiality and etiquette.

Haha, you're fine. No one is obligated to make posts, so it was a pleasant surprise that so many NSGers took part

[Duhon]

Seeing from your recent posts? I mean, there's suspicion based on recent precedents, and then there's paranoia.

It's not suspicion, it's a discussion of principles. I don't think that it's going to be an issue of "cHrIsTIanS rISe uP" but that with an overlaying loyalty to another, often opposed worldview, by definition in any conflict with the two the overlaying loyalty will take precedence in terms of loyalty and action.

Consider it like the issue of loyalty of immigrants to the home country vs. the new land. Sure, we may not be invaded by Uganda anytime soon, but does that mean that a loyalty of immigrants to the home country over the nation they immigrated to is acceptable?

Well, I just require people to keep the peace and be kind to one another, what of it?

[The Supreme Magnificent High Swaglord]

My apologies if I didn’t get sufficiently involved; in my defense, however, what I wished to say to CM may have crossed the boundaries of site rules regarding proper cordiality and etiquette.

Then report those posts you think are in violation.

Oh, what I meant was that if I posted, I might have gone a tad too far, hence why I didn’t post My apologies.

[Conserative Morality]

Well, I just require people to keep the peace and be kind to one another, what of it?

What happens when peace and kindness is not enough? What happens when the survival of the nation, or its ideals, requires more of you?

[LiberNovusAmericae]

Then report those posts you think are in violation.

Oh, what I meant was that if I posted, I might have gone a tad too far, hence why I didn’t post My apologies.

No, it is my fault. I misread it.

[Hakons]

My apologies if I didn’t get sufficiently involved; in my defense, however, what I wished to say to CM may have crossed the boundaries of site rules regarding proper cordiality and etiquette.

Then report those posts you think are in violation.

I don't think that would be needed. In proper right wing fashion, I think we handled it well by expressing what we thought of the posts, rather than resorting to official action to silence the posts.

[Bienenhalde]

Funny how I've never seen that before, especially considering a metric fuckton of leftists are Christians.

Also, 10/10 job proving yourself the better man than your enemies lmao.

I am aware Christian leftists exist. And I think they are either hypocritical or stupid for collaborating with people who would like to destroy their religion.

[Proctopeo]

oh no how dare people oppose homophobia and call others out for defending people who would, statistically, barely even blink if they were to be put to death for their sexuality


>truscum
God, I hate that word. It's bad enough as it is, being a snarl where you literally call people "true scum", but knowing who coined it makes it even worse.

Anyway, I love RWDT Fight Club.

Who coined it?

The best tldr I can give about her is,
>fake trans woman
>cultlike following
>hates men, trans men especially
>potentially racist
>apparently some shit where she gaslighted a trans man or something? idk that was like 2015

in short, someone truly not deserving of a legacy, I'll DM you a resource on info about her

First step to combat homophobia: disavow anyone who's statistically likely to be a homophobe
Really I'm just copping a tactic I've seen from the left: assume anyone who's Christian is a homophobe from the outset. I just changed it from the religion backed by Jesus to the religion backed by Mohammed.

I see you're still salty about how Torra pussywhipped you in the Discord.

I see you've become bitter and angry after UMN booted you out for upsetting him.

I see you're still salty about how Torra pussywhipped you in the Discord.

Let's not bring even more drama into this.

It's not even accurate, it was just Torra and another person being just generally awful people while the leadership sat about with his thumb up his butt.