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2019-2020 US Election Megathread II: Tim Ryan's Empire

PostPosted: Mon May 13, 2019 6:41 am
by Eternal Lotharia
Discord
Good 2nd debate predictions.


Eternal Lotharia wrote:December 31st, Elizabeth Warren has announced her exploratory committee to run for President in 2020. Already, two virtual unknowns such as John Delaney (other than people in MD and political junkies) and Richard Ojeda (other than people in WV, especially WV teachers, plus same political junkies) are officially in the race. Julian Castro will be making his plans known on Jan. 12 in Texas. So, with all of the Democrats getting ready to run, plus the rumors of a GOP primary challenge to President Trump and even Jesse Ventura maybe as a Green, I think it is time to start the megathreads that will grace this forum for the next two years.

Money raised First Quarter.

Here are links to power rankings:
1, 2, 3.


EDIT: Original OP credit goes to Republicana, I just did a slight touch up.]

PostPosted: Mon May 13, 2019 6:45 am
by Satuga
Unless there is a candidate who is respective, encouraging, and prepared to deal with real issues on both sides of the political spectrum, it is very likely trump will be reelected.

PostPosted: Mon May 13, 2019 6:45 am
by Evil Dictators Happyland
Third post woop, will edit in something constructive
Satuga wrote:Unless there is a candidate who is respective, encouraging, and prepared to deal with real issues on both sides of the political spectrum, it is very likely trump will be reelected.

Tbh I think just about anyone could beat Trump, but then again I thought that in 2016 and look how well that turned out.

PostPosted: Mon May 13, 2019 6:47 am
by The Xenopolis Confederation
Satuga wrote:Unless there is a candidate who is respective, encouraging, and prepared to deal with real issues on both sides of the political spectrum, it is very likely trump will be reelected.

I don't know about that. Trump isn't really that popular. The only reason he won because Hillary was also really unpopular.

PostPosted: Mon May 13, 2019 6:48 am
by Washington Resistance Army
Elections should be banned to end our never ending suffering tbh

PostPosted: Mon May 13, 2019 6:49 am
by The Xenopolis Confederation
Washington Resistance Army wrote:Elections should be banned to end our never ending suffering tbh

Then who would lead the country? And who would decide who leads the country?

PostPosted: Mon May 13, 2019 6:52 am
by Satuga
The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:
Satuga wrote:Unless there is a candidate who is respective, encouraging, and prepared to deal with real issues on both sides of the political spectrum, it is very likely trump will be reelected.

I don't know about that. Trump isn't really that popular. The only reason he won because Hillary was also really unpopular.


Trump is unpopular with the left in all respect he has met almost if not all of his goals he set in his 2016 campaign. Also with the ever so expanding and insane virtue signalling the left is doing it's very likely the majority of people will vote him again just to spite the left and mainstream media.

PostPosted: Mon May 13, 2019 6:53 am
by Evil Dictators Happyland
Satuga wrote:
The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:I don't know about that. Trump isn't really that popular. The only reason he won because Hillary was also really unpopular.


Trump is unpopular with the left in all respect he has met almost if not all of his goals he set in his 2016 campaign. Also with the ever so expanding and insane virtue signalling the left is doing it's very likely the majority of people will vote him again just to spite the left and mainstream media.

1) So 70-75% of the country is part of the left?
2) He didn't get a majority of the vote in 2016.
EDIT:
3) I seem to recall something about building a wall and repealing the Affordable Care Act being major parts of his campaign.

PostPosted: Mon May 13, 2019 6:53 am
by Washington Resistance Army
The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:Elections should be banned to end our never ending suffering tbh

Then who would lead the country? And who would decide who leads the country?


Nobody and nobody. We're going full anarcho-anarchist now. It'll be better than having non-stop 24/7 election news.

PostPosted: Mon May 13, 2019 6:53 am
by Galloism
The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:Elections should be banned to end our never ending suffering tbh

Then who would lead the country? And who would decide who leads the country?

I volunteer. I have previous experience with the Roman empire.

PostPosted: Mon May 13, 2019 6:55 am
by Evil Dictators Happyland
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:Then who would lead the country? And who would decide who leads the country?


Nobody and nobody. We're going full anarcho-anarchist now. It'll be better than having non-stop 24/7 election news.

Fully automatic luxury gay space anarchofascism when

PostPosted: Mon May 13, 2019 6:57 am
by Nakena
Evil Dictators Happyland wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Nobody and nobody. We're going full anarcho-anarchist now. It'll be better than having non-stop 24/7 election news.

Fully automatic luxury gay space anarchofascism when


Once you have your very own 3D portable pocket printer.

PostPosted: Mon May 13, 2019 6:59 am
by Satuga
Evil Dictators Happyland wrote:
Satuga wrote:
Trump is unpopular with the left in all respect he has met almost if not all of his goals he set in his 2016 campaign. Also with the ever so expanding and insane virtue signalling the left is doing it's very likely the majority of people will vote him again just to spite the left and mainstream media.

1) So 70-75% of the country is part of the left?
2) He didn't get a majority of the vote in 2016.
EDIT:
3) I seem to recall something about building a wall and repealing the Affordable Care Act being major parts of his campaign.


1) Considering that most democratic states are also some of the highest population states i.e California then its not entirely unreasonable, although 70% is fairly high, i would say more like 55%-65%.
2) that's why we have the electoral college, so one party doesn't have control over the entire nation.
3) He's currently trying to build the wall, (It takes quite a while if you didn't know), also wasn't Obama care repealed?

edit:spelling mistake "althouth"

PostPosted: Mon May 13, 2019 6:59 am
by Philjia
The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:Elections should be banned to end our never ending suffering tbh

Then who would lead the country? And who would decide who leads the country?

Fight to the death.

PostPosted: Mon May 13, 2019 6:59 am
by The Xenopolis Confederation
Galloism wrote:
The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:Then who would lead the country? And who would decide who leads the country?

I volunteer. I have previous experience with the Roman empire.

I'll drink to that.
Washington Resistance Army wrote:Nobody and nobody. We're going full anarcho-anarchist now. It'll be better than having non-stop 24/7 election news.

I find US election news entertaining tbh. Like pro-wrestling.

PostPosted: Mon May 13, 2019 7:00 am
by Galloism
The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:
Galloism wrote:I volunteer. I have previous experience with the Roman empire.

I'll drink to that.
Washington Resistance Army wrote:Nobody and nobody. We're going full anarcho-anarchist now. It'll be better than having non-stop 24/7 election news.

I find US election news entertaining tbh. Like pro-wrestling.

And just as real, probably.

PostPosted: Mon May 13, 2019 7:07 am
by Valrifell
The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:Elections should be banned to end our never ending suffering tbh

Then who would lead the country? And who would decide who leads the country?


I'm partial to a lottery, myself.

PostPosted: Mon May 13, 2019 7:08 am
by The Xenopolis Confederation
Valrifell wrote:
The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:Then who would lead the country? And who would decide who leads the country?


I'm partial to a lottery, myself.

I don't want the type of person to purchase lottery tickets in charge of the most powerful country on Earth, tyvm.

PostPosted: Mon May 13, 2019 7:16 am
by Valrifell
The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:
Valrifell wrote:
I'm partial to a lottery, myself.

I don't want the type of person to purchase lottery tickets in charge of the most powerful country on Earth, tyvm.


No, not tickets. We draw social security numbers from a hat.

PostPosted: Mon May 13, 2019 7:19 am
by Nakena
Service guarantees Citizenship is another possibility.

PostPosted: Mon May 13, 2019 7:19 am
by Evil Dictators Happyland
Satuga wrote:
Evil Dictators Happyland wrote:1) So 70-75% of the country is part of the left?
2) He didn't get a majority of the vote in 2016.
EDIT:
3) I seem to recall something about building a wall and repealing the Affordable Care Act being major parts of his campaign.


1) Considering that most democratic states are also some of the highest population states i.e California then its not entirely unreasonable, although 70% is fairly high, i would say more like 55%-65%.
2) that's why we have the electoral college, so one party doesn't have control over the entire nation.
3) He's currently trying to build the wall, (It takes quite a while if you didn't know), also wasn't Obama care repealed?

edit:spelling mistake "althouth"

1) Trump's approval ratings have been hovering around 25-30%, therefore 70-75% does not approve of him (or didn't vote, but that doesn't really change the point considering how few people didn't vote).
2) I didn't say I had a problem with it (IIRC Obama lost the popular vote in 2008), I was just contesting the idea that "the majority of people will vote him again".
3) He has consistently failed to come up with anything resembling a decent plan (no, "gimme a few billion dollars" doesn't count), and I was under the impression that he failed to repeal the ACA but I acknowledge that I might have missed something in the fustercluck that is American politics.

PostPosted: Mon May 13, 2019 7:22 am
by South Odreria
Elections and leaders are unnecessary if we ban large scale human interaction.

PostPosted: Mon May 13, 2019 7:22 am
by Valrifell
Evil Dictators Happyland wrote:
Satuga wrote:
1) Considering that most democratic states are also some of the highest population states i.e California then its not entirely unreasonable, although 70% is fairly high, i would say more like 55%-65%.
2) that's why we have the electoral college, so one party doesn't have control over the entire nation.
3) He's currently trying to build the wall, (It takes quite a while if you didn't know), also wasn't Obama care repealed?

edit:spelling mistake "althouth"


2) I didn't say I had a problem with it (IIRC Obama lost the popular vote in 2008), I was just contesting the idea that "the majority of people will vote him again".


You recall incorrectly. Here's a helpful hint: all presidents who won sans popular vote had "Republican" somewhere in their party affiliation. In fact, the Democratic Party was founded by someone who got snubbed by the EC (and then the House).

PostPosted: Mon May 13, 2019 7:27 am
by Satuga
Valrifell wrote:
Evil Dictators Happyland wrote:2) I didn't say I had a problem with it (IIRC Obama lost the popular vote in 2008), I was just contesting the idea that "the majority of people will vote him again".


You recall incorrectly. Here's a helpful hint: all presidents who won sans popular vote had "Republican" somewhere in their party affiliation. In fact, the Democratic Party was founded by someone who got snubbed by the EC (and then the House).


Andrew Jackson was that person who was snubbed. IE The original name the "Jacksonians"

PostPosted: Mon May 13, 2019 7:32 am
by Satuga
Evil Dictators Happyland wrote:1) Trump's approval ratings have been hovering around 25-30%, therefore 70-75% does not approve of him (or didn't vote, but that doesn't really change the point considering how few people didn't vote).
2) I didn't say I had a problem with it (IIRC Obama lost the popular vote in 2008), I was just contesting the idea that "the majority of people will vote him again".
3) He has consistently failed to come up with anything resembling a decent plan (no, "gimme a few billion dollars" doesn't count), and I was under the impression that he failed to repeal the ACA but I acknowledge that I might have missed something in the fustercluck that is American politics.

1) Trumps current approval rating is around 45.3% so as i said around 55% dont agree with him.
2) I suppose I should change my words a little, the majority of electoral votes will go to him, as it did in 2016.
3) That's because not only are they coming up with the best possible design to protect the borders, but many people have protested and attempted to halt the construction, hell I think it was coke-a-cola who even purchased a section of land where the wall was going to go in order to "protest" or even make the government pay them more than what they bought for to build there.