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2019-2020 US Election Megathread II: Tim Ryan's Empire

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Which Candidate do you like most after the debates?(Ranked in order of polling after said debates)

Joe Biden
40
14%
Bernie Sanders
92
32%
Elizabeth Warren
27
9%
Kamala Harris
10
3%
Pete Buttigieg
15
5%
Cory Booker
2
1%
Beto O'Rourke
3
1%
Andrew Yang
38
13%
Other
49
17%
Undecided
11
4%
 
Total votes : 287

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Postby Loben The 2nd » Mon May 13, 2019 8:51 pm

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I mean, we'd really have to think about it, but conceptually it could be done. Would require lots of pillars and a very small roof angle, but it's not specifically impossible.

The real trick would be the big doors for airplanes to fly through, and making it stand up to the massive levels of wind - both inside AND outside.

SAMs.

We build SAM sites.
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Postby Galloism » Mon May 13, 2019 8:53 pm

Loben The 2nd wrote:
Galloism wrote:I mean, we'd really have to think about it, but conceptually it could be done. Would require lots of pillars and a very small roof angle, but it's not specifically impossible.

The real trick would be the big doors for airplanes to fly through, and making it stand up to the massive levels of wind - both inside AND outside.

SAMs.

We build SAM sites.

Would make the SAM sites harder to hit, but we'd also need really big doors for them to fly through.

Really really big doors.
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Postby San Lumen » Mon May 13, 2019 9:14 pm

https://helenair.com/news/state-and-reg ... 503f8.html

Big news in the Montana Senate election Helena Mayor Wilmot Collins announced he is running for Senate as a Democrat. He was first elected in 2017 after working for 20 years for the state government. Collins is originally from Liberia and came to the US as a refugee.

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Postby Loben The 2nd » Mon May 13, 2019 9:14 pm

Galloism wrote:
Loben The 2nd wrote:SAMs.

We build SAM sites.

Would make the SAM sites harder to hit, but we'd also need really big doors for them to fly through.

Really really big doors.


Or copy the Israeli iron dome concept.
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Postby Gormwood » Mon May 13, 2019 10:33 pm

San Lumen wrote:https://helenair.com/news/state-and-regional/govt-and-politics/helena-mayor-wilmot-collins-announces-bid-for-us-senate/article_5bb618f2-0f3a-5f96-91ab-5c7354d503f8.html

Big news in the Montana Senate election Helena Mayor Wilmot Collins announced he is running for Senate as a Democrat. He was first elected in 2017 after working for 20 years for the state government. Collins is originally from Liberia and came to the US as a refugee.

Beat out a mayor who didn't want any immigrants. That was sweet. Say, what's the current Senator's stance on immigration?
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Postby Gormwood » Mon May 13, 2019 10:34 pm

Loben The 2nd wrote:
Galloism wrote:Would make the SAM sites harder to hit, but we'd also need really big doors for them to fly through.

Really really big doors.


Or copy the Israeli iron dome concept.

The Iron Dome that can't pick off Hamas bottle rockets?
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Postby Blargoblarg » Mon May 13, 2019 11:13 pm

I'm surprised there isn't a candidate poll for this new thread yet.
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Postby Shrillland » Mon May 13, 2019 11:14 pm

Blargoblarg wrote:I'm surprised there isn't a candidate poll for this new thread yet.


Lotharia will have it up tomorrow, I'm sure.
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Postby Satuga » Tue May 14, 2019 5:27 am

Cannot think of a name wrote:
Okay, first of all. Intensity matters. Republicans have been constantly downplaying any involvement in the elections, Trump took Putin's word over our own intelligence, so no. Not really a both by equal measures.

Second, yes it was stated. Over and over again.

Third, I would like to see this proof you speak of.

Fourth, you're talking about vote tampering. That was not the issue.


Apologies for taking so long to respond.

Thank you for bringing this to my attention I actually had not seen this before which kind of surprises me. Within the article it says that both sides condemned Trump for taking this position, in which I would have to agree. While improving relations with Russia is important it is not as important as their collusion within our country, which is absolutely unacceptable.

I was also unaware of this though I suppose it has been a while since I've searched much up about this. Last I checked the government knew of their collusion but did not know what they did.

https://www.latimes.com/politics/washington/la-na-essential-washington-updates-russians-targeted-election-systems-in-1498059012-htmlstory.html While they did try to interfere they did not have an impact on the voting itself.

Vote tampering is I'd say, pretty on topic, should Russia actually attempted to change votes it would have been a much, much bigger uproar and a deserved one at that.
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Postby Satuga » Tue May 14, 2019 5:29 am

Gormwood wrote:Most of his devoted base are people who think Alex Jones Male Supplements work.


That's really not a majority of his supporters, most people recognize that Alex Jones is kinda off the deep end, though he can be pretty hilarious at times, something TYT can't seem to do.
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Infected Mushroom wrote:I don’t like democracy. It’s messy, disorderly, unclean.

I much prefer uniforms, soldiers, clear lines of authority, order.
Tarsonis wrote:
Fartsniffage wrote:Can the pair of you go do it in one of the myriad American politics threads?

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Postby Loben The 2nd » Tue May 14, 2019 5:30 am

Gormwood wrote:
Loben The 2nd wrote:
Or copy the Israeli iron dome concept.

The Iron Dome that can't pick off Hamas bottle rockets?

No one has ever called it perfect for shitty Arabic Chinese fireworks.
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Postby Valrifell » Tue May 14, 2019 5:30 am

Satuga wrote:
Gormwood wrote:Most of his devoted base are people who think Alex Jones Male Supplements work.


That's really not a majority of his supporters, most people recognize that Alex Jones is kinda off the deep end, though he can be pretty hilarious at times, something TYT can't seem to do.


People who find Alex Jones funny and "ironically" give him an audience are fairly indistinguishable from people who take him seriously and give him an audience anyway.

The outcome is essentially the same.
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Postby The Xenopolis Confederation » Tue May 14, 2019 5:32 am

Valrifell wrote:
Satuga wrote:
That's really not a majority of his supporters, most people recognize that Alex Jones is kinda off the deep end, though he can be pretty hilarious at times, something TYT can't seem to do.


People who find Alex Jones funny and "ironically" give him an audience are fairly indistinguishable from people who take him seriously and give him an audience anyway.

The outcome is essentially the same.

You act like watching Alex Jones for the humour is like toxic waste dumping. Sorry but Alex Jones is really funny, cute and likable, like an aggressive little puppy dog. Even if he is crazy.
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Postby Satuga » Tue May 14, 2019 5:43 am

Cannot think of a name wrote:

By reporting on the things he says and does?

Actually no, by scewing things and not reporting the whole truth but rather half the truth, for example when the media got mad at Trump for tossing in the rest of the koi fish food, and saying how it was disrespectful, inconsiderate, yadayadayadayada. When in fact Trump was simply following the Japanese PM.

Cannot think of a name wrote:A little early for that, but I like where you're going. We too are in a hurry for it to be 'after' his presidency.

Fine you want me to change my words so bad do you? "Before and DURING his presidency

Cannot think of a name wrote:Bwahahahaha!

Not sure why you are laughing but ok.

Cannot think of a name wrote:Holy shit, something true. But, the poison that's been poured into that well is starting to thin out.

Only slightly mind you, I would also like to bring to your attention that over 70% of Democrats trust the media. That's a pretty large amount considering how many times the media has been proven to fake something, or not tell the truth. It's almost like the democratic media knows their demographic trusts them too much and will use that to their advantage to smear people wrongfully. :eyebrow:

Cannot think of a name wrote:I also support your idea of a primary challenger for Trump.


Any primary challenger for any president is a good thing, it allows people more choice and the better chance for a better politician.
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I much prefer uniforms, soldiers, clear lines of authority, order.
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Fartsniffage wrote:Can the pair of you go do it in one of the myriad American politics threads?

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Postby Zurkerx » Tue May 14, 2019 5:49 am

So, as we all have probably heard: Governor Bullock is running, but hey, here's an article on him somehow winning.

I doubt he'll get far.
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Postby Satuga » Tue May 14, 2019 5:50 am

Cannot think of a name wrote:
Libertas Omnium Maximus wrote:
Obama was a great public speaker. A horrible president, but a great public speaker. Besides, Trump's speech isn't even wrong. They aren't ALL rapists but some of them are.

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Please mind the population by race census and you'll see why that is stretching. https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/fact/table/US/PST045218
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Fartsniffage wrote:Can the pair of you go do it in one of the myriad American politics threads?

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Postby West Leas Oros 2 » Tue May 14, 2019 5:53 am

Telconi wrote:
Cannot think of a name wrote:
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Imagine going through the trouble of finding, linking, and spoilering an image that doesn't even remotely refute the poster's point. :lol:

But didn't you know? WHITE PEOPLE are the problem :roll:
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Postby Satuga » Tue May 14, 2019 5:55 am

Valrifell wrote:
Satuga wrote:
That's really not a majority of his supporters, most people recognize that Alex Jones is kinda off the deep end, though he can be pretty hilarious at times, something TYT can't seem to do.


People who find Alex Jones funny and "ironically" give him an audience are fairly indistinguishable from people who take him seriously and give him an audience anyway.

The outcome is essentially the same.


No, not at all, people find him funny because he's so absurd, the people who take him seriously don't find him funny and genuinely agree with some of his statements. It's not that hard to distinguish between the two.
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I much prefer uniforms, soldiers, clear lines of authority, order.
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Postby Hakons » Tue May 14, 2019 6:13 am

Cannot think of a name wrote:
Libertas Omnium Maximus wrote:
Obama was a great public speaker. A horrible president, but a great public speaker. Besides, Trump's speech isn't even wrong. They aren't ALL rapists but some of them are.

Image


Not advocating for a wall, but as others have noted, this is an odd response. I'll add that this doesn't do much to measure the rape rates of illegal immigrants, since they aren't a racial category. A majority of illegal immigrants are Hispanic, but your reference, like the census, doesn't seperate Hispanics into a separate racial category. Hispanics would probably be put into the white category, while some could choose black.
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Postby Loben The 2nd » Tue May 14, 2019 7:55 am

West Leas Oros 2 wrote:
Telconi wrote:
Imagine going through the trouble of finding, linking, and spoilering an image that doesn't even remotely refute the poster's point. :lol:

But didn't you know? WHITE PEOPLE are the problem :roll:

If you ask MTV and the checkmarks on twitter perhaps.
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Postby Valrifell » Tue May 14, 2019 7:59 am

Satuga wrote:
Valrifell wrote:
People who find Alex Jones funny and "ironically" give him an audience are fairly indistinguishable from people who take him seriously and give him an audience anyway.

The outcome is essentially the same.


No, not at all, people find him funny because he's so absurd, the people who take him seriously don't find him funny and genuinely agree with some of his statements. It's not that hard to distinguish between the two.


The outcome is the same in that his messages spreads, which means the more people that ironically follow him the more people that start to unironcially kinda agree with what he says.

Memes spread, it's their whole thing.
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Postby Valrifell » Tue May 14, 2019 8:00 am

West Leas Oros 2 wrote:
Telconi wrote:
Imagine going through the trouble of finding, linking, and spoilering an image that doesn't even remotely refute the poster's point. :lol:

But didn't you know? WHITE PEOPLE are the problem :roll:


Nobody said that, nobody meant to imply that, the graphic doesn't even say that.

You may step down from the horse, now.
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Postby South Odreria » Tue May 14, 2019 8:36 am

Zurkerx wrote:So, as we all have probably heard: Governor Bullock is running, but hey, here's an article on him somehow winning.

I doubt he'll get far.


Looks like he's running for secretary of ag
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Postby Cerinda » Tue May 14, 2019 10:37 am

I think the Democrats best chance of winning the election is choosing actual progressives like Tulsi Gabbard and Andrew Yang.
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Postby Valrifell » Tue May 14, 2019 10:45 am

Cerinda wrote:I think the Democrats best chance of winning the election is choosing actual progressives like Tulsi Gabbard and Andrew Yang.


Oh gross
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