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Which Candidate do you like most after the debates?(Ranked in order of polling after said debates)

Joe Biden
40
14%
Bernie Sanders
92
32%
Elizabeth Warren
27
9%
Kamala Harris
10
3%
Pete Buttigieg
15
5%
Cory Booker
2
1%
Beto O'Rourke
3
1%
Andrew Yang
38
13%
Other
49
17%
Undecided
11
4%
 
Total votes : 287

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Postby The Black Forrest » Tue Sep 10, 2019 5:45 pm

North Carolina House 9 is vote counting. Democrat is at 52% and the Republican is at 47.5%. Granted still early in the vote count.

A bad sign for Trump if the D wins it. This seat has been in Republican hands since 1963.
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Postby Pacomia » Tue Sep 10, 2019 5:47 pm

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Just out of curiosity, do you have other sources to corroborate?

Nah, I literally saw this in my recommended news feed. It doesn’t say all that much, but it’s here.
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Postby Zurkerx » Tue Sep 10, 2019 5:48 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:North Carolina House 9 is vote counting. Democrat is at 52% and the Republican is at 47.5%. Granted still early in the vote count.

A bad sign for Trump if the D wins it. This seat has been in Republican hands since 1963.


Well, the guy did describe LGBT Activists by comparing them to the Taliban so I would shocked if he won. However, another district did go Red.

https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/ ... index.html
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Postby Dresderstan » Tue Sep 10, 2019 7:00 pm

Zurkerx wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:North Carolina House 9 is vote counting. Democrat is at 52% and the Republican is at 47.5%. Granted still early in the vote count.

A bad sign for Trump if the D wins it. This seat has been in Republican hands since 1963.


Well, the guy did describe LGBT Activists by comparing them to the Taliban so I would shocked if he won. However, another district did go Red.

https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/ ... index.html

It looks like it's working Bishop, the GOP candidate is now leading 50.8 to 48.6 with over 90% of the vote in NC-9

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Postby Zurkerx » Tue Sep 10, 2019 7:27 pm

Dresderstan wrote:
Zurkerx wrote:
Well, the guy did describe LGBT Activists by comparing them to the Taliban so I would shocked if he won. However, another district did go Red.

https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/ ... index.html

It looks like it's working Bishop, the GOP candidate is now leading 50.8 to 48.6 with over 90% of the vote in NC-9


They just called it for him too. I'm a bit surprised given this guy's colorful record. Then again, it is a district that went Republican for years so I guess I shouldn't be too surprised.
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Postby United States of Devonta » Tue Sep 10, 2019 7:37 pm

Telconi wrote:
United States of Devonta wrote:
It's hard to believe Telconi argues in good faith.


Why's that, because I disagree with you?


No. Your discussion w/ San Lumen proves it.

Notice I haven't applied this to anyone else yet. Just you.
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Postby Telconi » Tue Sep 10, 2019 7:44 pm

United States of Devonta wrote:
Telconi wrote:
Why's that, because I disagree with you?


No. Your discussion w/ San Lumen proves it.

Notice I haven't applied this to anyone else yet. Just you.


Riiiiight... Anyhow...
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Postby Corrian » Tue Sep 10, 2019 9:41 pm

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San Lumen wrote:https://www.google.com/amp/s/thehill.com/homenews/campaign/460531-valerie-plame-shows-off-cia-driving-in-new-campaign-ad%3famp

Valerie Plame a former CIA agent who was outed by Vice President Dick Cheney’s Chief Of Staff Scooter Libby is running as a Democrat for Congress in New Mexico’s Second district. Libby was convicted of obstruction of justice and later pardoned by Trump.
The incumbent Ben Ray Luján is running for Senate. This is a fairly safe district that includes the capital of Santa Fe. Whoever wins the democratic primary will be favored.

You buried the lead. You didn't tell us that her announcement video was her doing a bootleg reverse in a Camaro to a Texas blues riff.

That was the most American ad ever.
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Postby San Lumen » Tue Sep 10, 2019 9:45 pm

Corrian wrote:
Cannot think of a name wrote:You buried the lead. You didn't tell us that her announcement video was her doing a bootleg reverse in a Camaro to a Texas blues riff.

That was the most American ad ever.

I hope she wins the primary

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Postby The Black Forrest » Tue Sep 10, 2019 10:54 pm

Dresderstan wrote:
Zurkerx wrote:
Well, the guy did describe LGBT Activists by comparing them to the Taliban so I would shocked if he won. However, another district did go Red.

https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/ ... index.html

It looks like it's working Bishop, the GOP candidate is now leading 50.8 to 48.6 with over 90% of the vote in NC-9


I wish I could be surprised. I am not. Especially after seeing how many people supported Moore.
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Postby Greater vakolicci haven » Tue Sep 10, 2019 10:57 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:
Dresderstan wrote:It looks like it's working Bishop, the GOP candidate is now leading 50.8 to 48.6 with over 90% of the vote in NC-9


I wish I could be surprised. I am not. Especially after seeing how many people supported Moore.

Was Moore actually convicted of anything?
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Postby Telconi » Tue Sep 10, 2019 11:45 pm

Greater vakolicci haven wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:
I wish I could be surprised. I am not. Especially after seeing how many people supported Moore.

Was Moore actually convicted of anything?


Republicanism.
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Postby Greater vakolicci haven » Wed Sep 11, 2019 12:10 am

Telconi wrote:
Greater vakolicci haven wrote:Was Moore actually convicted of anything?


Republicanism.

So he must be guilty, right?
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Postby Vassenor » Wed Sep 11, 2019 12:13 am

Greater vakolicci haven wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:
I wish I could be surprised. I am not. Especially after seeing how many people supported Moore.

Was Moore actually convicted of anything?


Was Clinton actually convicted of anything?
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Postby Greater vakolicci haven » Wed Sep 11, 2019 12:16 am

Vassenor wrote:
Greater vakolicci haven wrote:Was Moore actually convicted of anything?


Was Clinton actually convicted of anything?

Which one?
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Postby Vassenor » Wed Sep 11, 2019 12:39 am

Greater vakolicci haven wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
Was Clinton actually convicted of anything?

Which one?


Either of them.
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Postby Pacomia » Wed Sep 11, 2019 12:42 am

What are y’all predictions for the debate
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Postby Greater vakolicci haven » Wed Sep 11, 2019 12:47 am

Vassenor wrote:
Greater vakolicci haven wrote:Which one?


Either of them.

No, just people I wouldn't vote for. Bill was a bad president whose administration presided over far too much of the creeping authoritarianism we've seen over the past 30 years. I suspect Hillary would have pissed off Russia to the point of no return.
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Postby Vassenor » Wed Sep 11, 2019 12:50 am

Greater vakolicci haven wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
Either of them.

No, just people I wouldn't vote for. Bill was a bad president whose administration presided over far too much of the creeping authoritarianism we've seen over the past 30 years. I suspect Hillary would have pissed off Russia to the point of no return.


Oh yes, the old "Hillary was totally going to start WW3" lie.
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Postby Greater vakolicci haven » Wed Sep 11, 2019 12:53 am

Vassenor wrote:
Greater vakolicci haven wrote:No, just people I wouldn't vote for. Bill was a bad president whose administration presided over far too much of the creeping authoritarianism we've seen over the past 30 years. I suspect Hillary would have pissed off Russia to the point of no return.


Oh yes, the old "Hillary was totally going to start WW3" lie.

She was anti-Russian to a ridiculous level of extreme.
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Postby The Andromeda Archipelago » Wed Sep 11, 2019 4:24 am

Greater vakolicci haven wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
Oh yes, the old "Hillary was totally going to start WW3" lie.

She was anti-Russian to a ridiculous level of extreme.


Anti-Russian = Trusting our National Security Agencies more than Vladimir Putin.

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Postby Aclion » Wed Sep 11, 2019 4:44 am

Pacomia wrote:What are y’all predictions for the debate

DNC has shown they'll exclude anyone who punches up, so nothing interesting.
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Postby Salandriagado » Wed Sep 11, 2019 5:27 am

San Lumen wrote:
Telconi wrote:
Probably so.

yeah how dare we let the people chose who they want


You can choose who you want. You can vote for anybody who puts their name on the ballot paper. Whether some club has decided that they're their favourite candidate or not, you can still make your choice however you like.
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Postby Ifreann » Wed Sep 11, 2019 5:33 am

San Lumen wrote:
Telconi wrote:
Probably so.

yeah how dare we let the people chose who they want

The people choose who they want in elections to public office. The people do not choose who the Republican party nominates to stand for election. The Republican Party is a private organisation that can conduct itself pretty much any way it wants. They don't have to let their members vote on anything, ever. Likewise the Democratic Party, and every other party.
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