2019-2020 US Election Megathread II: Tim Ryan's Empire

[San Lumen]

California has 0.4% efficiency gap.


Sorry, sorry. I cited something instead of just making vague blanket statements. I'll go stand in a corner and think about what I've done.

With nine uncontested seats.

And don't be an ass, it doesn't serve.

Then perhaps your party should put up better candidates who can get past the stupid top two primary

[Telconi]

With nine uncontested seats.

And don't be an ass, it doesn't serve.

Then perhaps your party should put up better candidates who can get past the stupid top two primary

They're Democrat heavy districts.

[San Lumen]

Then perhaps your party should put up better candidates who can get past the stupid top two primary

They're Democrat heavy districts.

So? find better candidates. The people chose two Democrats for the general election

[Shrillland]

They're Democrat heavy districts.

So? find better candidates. The people chose two Democrats for the general election

That doesn't help. You're not going to see Republicans run in places like Downtown LA where they know they stand no possible chance of winning.

[Telconi]

They're Democrat heavy districts.

So? find better candidates. The people chose two Democrats for the general election

Better candidates are distinctly unappealing to Democrats, this is why they vote Democrat.

[San Lumen]

So? find better candidates. The people chose two Democrats for the general election

That doesn't help. You're not going to see Republicans run in places like Downtown LA where they know they stand no possible chance of winning.

There is something called a paper candidate. It happens all the time in NYC or some areas in Connecticut and other places. Someone is nominated and they dont campaign. At least people have a choice.

[Telconi]

That doesn't help. You're not going to see Republicans run in places like Downtown LA where they know they stand no possible chance of winning.

There is something called a paper candidate. It happens all the time in NYC or some areas in Connecticut and other places. Someone is nominated and they dont campaign. At least people have a choice.

I don't think you understand how California elections work.

[Shrillland]

That doesn't help. You're not going to see Republicans run in places like Downtown LA where they know they stand no possible chance of winning.

There is something called a paper candidate. It happens all the time in NYC or some areas in Connecticut and other places. Someone is nominated and they dont campaign. At least people have a choice.

That's still a waste of resources better spent in places where a party has a better chance. And in any case, it's not going to fly anyway since more states are looking at jungle primaries, not less. Florida's got three different proposals for jungle primaries in the signature process as we speak.

[San Lumen]

There is something called a paper candidate. It happens all the time in NYC or some areas in Connecticut and other places. Someone is nominated and they dont campaign. At least people have a choice.

I don't think you understand how California elections work.

I know how they work. They have a top two primary and the two candidates with the most votes advance to the general election

[San Lumen]

There is something called a paper candidate. It happens all the time in NYC or some areas in Connecticut and other places. Someone is nominated and they dont campaign. At least people have a choice.

That's still a waste of resources better spent in places where a party has a better chance. And in any case, it's not going to fly anyway since more states are looking at jungle primaries, not less. Florida's got three different proposals for jungle primaries in the signature process as we speak.

I think they are stupid.

[Telconi]

I don't think you understand how California elections work.

I know how they work. They have a top two primary and the two candidates with the most votes advance to the general election

And so how do you think a paper candidate works in this system?

[San Lumen]

I know how they work. They have a top two primary and the two candidates with the most votes advance to the general election

And so how do you think a paper candidate works in this system?

It doesn't. If you ran better candidates they might make it to the general

[Telconi]

And so how do you think a paper candidate works in this system?

It doesn't. If you ran better candidates they might make it to the general

They wouldn't, they're Democrat dominated districts.

[San Lumen]

It doesn't. If you ran better candidates they might make it to the general

They wouldn't, they're Democrat dominated districts.

Then get rid of the stupid top too. Even if you didnt have it its almost certain a Democrat would still win there.

Republicans managed to get someone in the top two in district 12. If they can do it there they can do it elsewhere

[Telconi]

They wouldn't, they're Democrat dominated districts.

Then get rid of the stupid top too. Even if you didnt have it its almost certain a Democrat would still win there.

Republicans managed to get someone in the top two in district 12. If they can do it there they can do it elsewhere

Yes, I'm sure the Democrat majority legislature will get rid of a system which benefits them.

Judging by the nine districts in which they didn't, your assertion is dubious at best.

[San Lumen]

Then get rid of the stupid top too. Even if you didnt have it its almost certain a Democrat would still win there.

Republicans managed to get someone in the top two in district 12. If they can do it there they can do it elsewhere

Yes, I'm sure the Democrat majority legislature will get rid of a system which benefits them.

Judging by the nine districts in which they didn't, your assertion is dubious at best.

Its a stupid system. It can be repealed by referendum

No its not dubious

[Telconi]

Yes, I'm sure the Democrat majority legislature will get rid of a system which benefits them.

Judging by the nine districts in which they didn't, your assertion is dubious at best.

Its a stupid system. It can be repealed by referendum

No its not dubious

Oh, yes, because the Democrat majority population will overturn by referendum a system that benefits them.

[Shrillland]

Its a stupid system. It can be repealed by referendum

No its not dubious

Oh, yes, because the Democrat majority population will overturn by referendum a system that benefits them.

They might. A majority of less than 400,000 passed Prop 14, and that's not insurmountable in California by any means.

[South Odreria 2]

CBS/Yougov: Iowa: Biden 29 (+5), Sanders 26 (+7), Warren 17 (+0)
New Hampshire: Warren 27 (+9), Biden 26 (-1), Sanders 25 (+5)
Nevada: Sanders 29, Biden 27, Warren 18.

Biden at risk of losing the first three states. Sanders 3 in Iowa and 2 in NH away from sweeping.

[Valrifell]

CBS/Yougov: Iowa: Biden 29 (+5), Sanders 26 (+7), Warren 17 (+0)
New Hampshire: Warren 27 (+9), Biden 26 (-1), Sanders 25 (+5)
Nevada: Sanders 29, Biden 27, Warren 18.

Biden at risk of losing the first three states. Sanders 3 in Iowa and 2 in NH away from sweeping.

If he loses eaely states things get fun

[United States of Devonta]

CBS/Yougov: Iowa: Biden 29 (+5), Sanders 26 (+7), Warren 17 (+0)
New Hampshire: Warren 27 (+9), Biden 26 (-1), Sanders 25 (+5)
Nevada: Sanders 29, Biden 27, Warren 18.

Biden at risk of losing the first three states. Sanders 3 in Iowa and 2 in NH away from sweeping.

If he loses eaely states things get fun

I feel like the nomination might go to convention and then the super-delegates will get involved. Unfortunately.

[South Odreria 2]

If he loses eaely states things get fun

I feel like the nomination might go to convention and then the super-delegates will get involved. Unfortunately.

If no candidate wins an overall majority of delegates, Sanders and Warren will most likely have a majority together and could strike a deal without superdelegates. Probably, whichever has more will be the nominee after meeting some demands from the other.

[Miami Shores]

I feel like the nomination might go to convention and then the super-delegates will get involved. Unfortunately.

If no candidate wins an overall majority of delegates, Sanders and Warren will most likely have a majority together and could strike a deal without superdelegates. Probably, whichever has more will be the nominee after meeting some demands from the other.

A Sanders Warren ticket, or a Warren Sanders ticket.

[United States of Devonta]

I feel like the nomination might go to convention and then the super-delegates will get involved. Unfortunately.

If no candidate wins an overall majority of delegates, Sanders and Warren will most likely have a majority together and could strike a deal without superdelegates. Probably, whichever has more will be the nominee after meeting some demands from the other.

I think both want it to bad..

[Valrifell]

If he loses eaely states things get fun

I feel like the nomination might go to convention and then the super-delegates will get involved. Unfortunately.

Superdelegates are only involved in a second round in a brokered convention.