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Which Candidate do you like most after the debates?(Ranked in order of polling after said debates)

Joe Biden
40
14%
Bernie Sanders
92
32%
Elizabeth Warren
27
9%
Kamala Harris
10
3%
Pete Buttigieg
15
5%
Cory Booker
2
1%
Beto O'Rourke
3
1%
Andrew Yang
38
13%
Other
49
17%
Undecided
11
4%
 
Total votes : 287

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Postby Shrillland » Wed Aug 28, 2019 12:49 pm

San Lumen wrote:
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What I see happening is Ginsburg retiring and Trump refusing to make an appointment because *mumble mumble* Democratic obstruction, leading to at least a year of a court vacancy before people get pissed and he nominates someone right-of-center instead of some fringe judge.

she has said she will not retire under Trump.


No, but she's going through cancer treatment again...so the issue may be brought up whether she retires or not, if you get me.
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Postby Thermodolia » Wed Aug 28, 2019 12:50 pm

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Thermodolia wrote:It all depends on who they nominate. Plus it’s not impossible for the democrats to pick up the senate but lose the presidency

Its very unlikely

I’d say it’s not
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Postby Thermodolia » Wed Aug 28, 2019 12:51 pm

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Ifreann wrote:He's the President.


Yeah, let's just "ignore" the most powerful head of state on the planet.

You don’t have to report everything he says on Twitter though
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Postby Valrifell » Wed Aug 28, 2019 12:53 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Valrifell wrote:
Yeah, let's just "ignore" the most powerful head of state on the planet.

You don’t have to report everything he says on Twitter though


Most things he says on Twitter has real-world implications, unfortunately, and ought to be held to scrutiny.

(I don't have Twitter so I can't actually verify what goes on there)
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Postby Thermodolia » Wed Aug 28, 2019 12:57 pm

Valrifell wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:You don’t have to report everything he says on Twitter though


Most things he says on Twitter has real-world implications, unfortunately, and ought to be held to scrutiny.

(I don't have Twitter so I can't actually verify what goes on there)

Dude what he says on Twitter in the morning is different than what he says in the evening. He changes his goddamn mind way wya too much.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Wed Aug 28, 2019 12:57 pm

Valrifell wrote:
Ifreann wrote:He's the President.


Yeah, let's just "ignore" the most powerful head of state on the planet.


Realistically it wouldn't affect you any if you did just that, and most here would probably be quite a bit happier overall without talking about him 24/7.
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Postby Valrifell » Wed Aug 28, 2019 12:58 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Valrifell wrote:
Yeah, let's just "ignore" the most powerful head of state on the planet.


Realistically it wouldn't affect you any if you did just that, and most here would probably be quite a bit happier overall without talking about him 24/7.


There's like, a whole body of literature on why purposeful ignorance is morally dubious.
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Postby Sidesh0w B0b » Wed Aug 28, 2019 12:59 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Sidesh0w B0b wrote:
Nobody said not to focus on those other things. The true reality is more like were the Dems to win a few more senate seats hold the House but lose to Trump again, there won't be any big victory party. No cake, no icing.

Then Trump would be a lame duck president. He couldn’t do shit


Oh, like HELL, Thermo. He might get to nominate 2 or 3 more SCOTUS justices. There's plenty of executive powers he could abuse for 4 more years. He'd be a wrecking ball. He'd also outrun the statute of limitations on most of his "alleged financial crimes" back in NY. Evade justice. Nah. This turkey has to be cooked in 2020.

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Postby Valrifell » Wed Aug 28, 2019 12:59 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Valrifell wrote:
Most things he says on Twitter has real-world implications, unfortunately, and ought to be held to scrutiny.

(I don't have Twitter so I can't actually verify what goes on there)

Dude what he says on Twitter in the morning is different than what he says in the evening. He changes his goddamn mind way wya too much.


And we wouldn't know that if he didn't tweet. We're all learning a bit about each other and ourselves.
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Postby San Lumen » Wed Aug 28, 2019 1:02 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
San Lumen wrote:Its very unlikely

I’d say it’s not

Ticket splitting isn’t a big thing anymore. I don’t see a path for democrats to win the senate if he gets re-elected

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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Wed Aug 28, 2019 1:03 pm

Valrifell wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Realistically it wouldn't affect you any if you did just that, and most here would probably be quite a bit happier overall without talking about him 24/7.


There's like, a whole body of literature on why purposeful ignorance is morally dubious.


There's a whole body of literature on everything.
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Postby Sidesh0w B0b » Wed Aug 28, 2019 1:04 pm

Eternal Lotharia wrote:
Sidesh0w B0b wrote:
Oh, like HELL, Thermo. He might get to nominate 2 or 3 more SCOTUS justices. There's plenty of executive powers he could abuse for 4 more years. He'd be a wrecking ball. He'd also outrun the statute of limitations on most of his "alleged financial crimes" back in NY. Evade justice. Nah. This turkey has to be cooked in 2020.

He must be gone at any cost.


Even if we need to drag him out of there kicking and screaming when he loses. I can envision it. Crowds outside the White House, along the DC streets. At Reagan National. Deafening chants of LOSER! LOSER! LOSER! as they put him on a plane bound for NYC. Can't wait.

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Postby Sidesh0w B0b » Wed Aug 28, 2019 1:12 pm

Eternal Lotharia wrote:
Sidesh0w B0b wrote:
Even if we need to drag him out of there kicking and screaming when he loses. I can envision it. Crowds outside the White House, along the DC streets. At Reagan National. Deafening chants of LOSER! LOSER! LOSER! as they put him on a plane bound for NYC. Can't wait.

Likely to jail for his crimes not even as president.


Do you think they'll need a suicide watch for this narcissist? He'd imagine himself as young Adolf on trial after the 1923 failed putsch. Ranting on. Trying to condemn, to try the government... forgetting that he ran it for the last 4 years. He wouldn't pass that up.
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Postby San Lumen » Wed Aug 28, 2019 1:13 pm

Sidesh0w B0b wrote:
Eternal Lotharia wrote:He must be gone at any cost.


Even if we need to drag him out of there kicking and screaming when he loses. I can envision it. Crowds outside the White House, along the DC streets. At Reagan National. Deafening chants of LOSER! LOSER! LOSER! as they put him on a plane bound for NYC. Can't wait.

I would love that.

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Postby Kannap » Wed Aug 28, 2019 1:17 pm

Can Joe Biden go five seconds without saying something completely stupid?
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Postby Sidesh0w B0b » Wed Aug 28, 2019 1:20 pm

Eternal Lotharia wrote:
Sidesh0w B0b wrote:
Do you think they'll need a suicide watch for this narcissist? He'd imagine himself as young Adolf on trial after the 1923 failed putsch. Ranting on. Trying to condemn, to try the government... forgetting that he ran it for the last 4 years. He wouldn't pass that up.

True. He's a mentally deranged psycho. He should be muffled as if a mentally deranged person has such a vast influence, that's dangerous. Mute him, by covering his mouth somehow.


Straight jacketed. US Marshals trucking him back and forth to court make time for a stop at McDonalds every morning. Come out with a Huuuge bag, but no napkins. Sticking Quarter Pounders into his mouth every hour or so as necessary. His defense lawyers appeal the no napkins policy. Judge allows him one napkin. :lol:

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Postby Sidesh0w B0b » Wed Aug 28, 2019 1:21 pm

Eternal Lotharia wrote:
Sidesh0w B0b wrote:
Straight jacketed. US Marshals trucking him back and forth to court make time for a stop at McDonalds every morning. Come out with a Huuuge bag, but no napkins. Sticking Quarter Pounders into his mouth every hour or so as necessary. His defense lawyers appeal the no napkins policy. Judge allows him one napkin. :lol:

Best part:
They are vegan burgers. :D


:rofl:

No, but wait.
Trump has other plans. Plans to get out of DC early. He's resigning the day after he's beaten. Next morning, he tells Pence, "Believe me Mikey, you're going down in history. I had this dream last night. God spoke to me. He told me to resign and name you president, you see? What He wants you to do is, first thing, give me a blanket pardon like Nixon got, see. Then He'll guide you from there! This He told me. You gotta do it. Tell Mother she's gonna be First Lady! She'll be great! Mike? Mike! Listen. Listen!!! You'll even get your own presidential library and it can be filled with Bibles. He told me so. Your portrait will be in all the post offices, schools and churches... so will school prayers, Mike.
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Postby San Lumen » Wed Aug 28, 2019 1:36 pm

Sidesh0w B0b wrote:
Eternal Lotharia wrote:Best part:
They are vegan burgers. :D


:rofl:

No, but wait.
Trump has other plans. Plans to get out of DC early. He's resigning the day after he's beaten. Next morning, he tells Pence, "Believe me Mikey, you're going down in history. I had this dream last night. God spoke to me. He told me to resign and name you president, you see? What He wants you to do is, first thing, give me a blanket pardon like Nixon got, see. Then He'll guide yo from there! This He told me. You gotta do it. Tell Mother she's gonna be First Lady! She'll do great!

I could totally see him doing something like that. Pence could only pardon him for federal crimes not state.

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Postby Greater vakolicci haven » Wed Aug 28, 2019 1:41 pm

Eternal Lotharia wrote:
Sidesh0w B0b wrote:
:rofl:

No, but wait.
Trump has other plans. Plans to get out of DC early. He's resigning the day after he's beaten. Next morning, he tells Pence, "Believe me Mikey, you're going down in history. I had this dream last night. God spoke to me. He told me to resign and name you president, you see? What He wants you to do is, first thing, give me a blanket pardon like Nixon got, see. Then He'll guide yo from there! This He told me. You gotta do it. Tell Mother she's gonna be First Lady! She'll do great!

You've made me want Burgers. Thanks for that. >:(

Trump goes to bed ith a cheeseburger, doesn't it?

And on a more personal note, your tgs, EL...
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Postby Sidesh0w B0b » Wed Aug 28, 2019 1:41 pm

Eternal Lotharia wrote:
Sidesh0w B0b wrote:
:rofl:

No, but wait.
Trump has other plans. Plans to get out of DC early. He's resigning the day after he's beaten. Next morning, he tells Pence, "Believe me Mikey, you're going down in history. I had this dream last night. God spoke to me. He told me to resign and name you president, you see? What He wants you to do is, first thing, give me a blanket pardon like Nixon got, see. Then He'll guide yo from there! This He told me. You gotta do it. Tell Mother she's gonna be First Lady! She'll do great!

You've made me want Burgers. Thanks for that. >:(

That's on you, man. Draw on your will power, dude. Eat a Hot Dog instead... they are more American and much more Trump-like. Digest him, then stay close to a toilet. lmao.

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Postby Sidesh0w B0b » Wed Aug 28, 2019 1:44 pm

Eternal Lotharia wrote:
Sidesh0w B0b wrote:That's on you, man. Draw on your will power, dude. Eat a Hot Dog instead... they are more American and much more Trump-like. Digest him, then stay close to a toilet. lmao.

I can't right now, unfortunately.

I am forced to eat crappy ramen for lunch due to someone being in the hospital at the moment.


They have it worse than you. Remember this while you eat the Ramen, unless of course you're the one getting the hospital bill.

Hey, they okay? Who they?

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Postby Greater vakolicci haven » Wed Aug 28, 2019 1:48 pm

Eternal Lotharia wrote:
Sidesh0w B0b wrote:
They have it worse than you. Remember this while you eat the Ramen, unless of course you're the one getting the hospital bill.

Hey, they okay? Who they?

It's private(I don't have the liberty to say, you see, legally afaik), and yeah you're right, just bleh.

Legally (since we don't know who you are) you could say something like 'my dad,' but not 'Mr. George Hellingsworth, 24 Grave Street, Margate.'
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Postby Sidesh0w B0b » Wed Aug 28, 2019 1:49 pm

Eternal Lotharia wrote:
Sidesh0w B0b wrote:
They have it worse than you. Remember this while you eat the Ramen, unless of course you're the one getting the hospital bill.

Hey, they okay? Who they?

It's private(I don't have the liberty to say, you see, legally afaik), and yeah you're right, just bleh.


Well. Maybe write a food review of Ramen. Get your mind off the unidentified White House Hamburglar.
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Postby Greater vakolicci haven » Wed Aug 28, 2019 1:51 pm

Eternal Lotharia wrote:
Greater vakolicci haven wrote:Legally (since we don't know who you are) you could say something like 'my dad,' but not 'Mr. George Hellingsworth, 24 Grave Street, Margate.'

...
I've not hid who I am. It doesn't take that much searching.

And if it's legal, then I'm at least sure they'd dislike it if I said who, at the very least.
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Well. Maybe write a food review of Ramen. Get your mind off the White House Hamburglar.

:lol: Good idea, I'll do it.

Lol unless it turns out that your real name is Deian Salazar.
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Postby Sidesh0w B0b » Wed Aug 28, 2019 1:51 pm

Greater vakolicci haven wrote:
Eternal Lotharia wrote:It's private(I don't have the liberty to say, you see, legally afaik), and yeah you're right, just bleh.

Legally (since we don't know who you are) you could say something like 'my dad,' but not 'Mr. George Hellingsworth, 24 Grave Street, Margate.'


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