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Which Candidate do you like most after the debates?(Ranked in order of polling after said debates)

Joe Biden
40
14%
Bernie Sanders
92
32%
Elizabeth Warren
27
9%
Kamala Harris
10
3%
Pete Buttigieg
15
5%
Cory Booker
2
1%
Beto O'Rourke
3
1%
Andrew Yang
38
13%
Other
49
17%
Undecided
11
4%
 
Total votes : 287
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Postby Jean-Paul Sartre » Tue Aug 13, 2019 5:59 pm

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Farnhamia wrote:Well, but you seem convinced that a liberal majority on the Court would have done ... things. I wonder what sort of things you and the folks in your neck of the woods might be afraid of a liberal majority going all judicial activism on.

Liberal things.

Sexy liberal things.

Stupid sexy Sanders
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Postby Farnhamia » Tue Aug 13, 2019 6:00 pm

Jean-Paul Sartre wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Liberal things.

Sexy liberal things.

Stupid sexy Sanders

The exception proves the rule.
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Postby Valrifell » Tue Aug 13, 2019 6:01 pm

Ifreann wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:Well, but you seem convinced that a liberal majority on the Court would have done ... things. I wonder what sort of things you and the folks in your neck of the woods might be afraid of a liberal majority going all judicial activism on.

Liberal things.

Sexy liberal things.


Bernie Sanders tried to get elected President but he was too dummy thicc and the clapping of his cheeks cost him the election

hhhnnnnnggggg
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Postby Farnhamia » Tue Aug 13, 2019 6:02 pm

Valrifell wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Liberal things.

Sexy liberal things.


Bernie Sanders tried to get elected President but he was too dummy thicc and the clapping of his cheeks cost him the election

hhhnnnnnggggg

One hell of an epitaph.
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Postby Nazi Juggalos » Tue Aug 13, 2019 6:02 pm

Valrifell wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Liberal things.

Sexy liberal things.


Bernie Sanders tried to get elected President but he was too dummy thicc and the clapping of his cheeks cost him the election

hhhnnnnnggggg


Clinton just couldn't stand his thiccness.
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Postby Tarsonis » Tue Aug 13, 2019 7:10 pm

Ngelmish wrote:
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Evangelicals supported trump for one reason: SCOTUS.


Yes, yes, opposition to the concept of abortion is more important than the actual incidence rate. A lot of Catholics share that point of view, it has something to do with morally deserved outcomes, pregnancies carried to term irregardless.

Oh, and don't bother to lie about that abortion inducing point of view. Personal judgement of people's choices matter more, of course.


Well unlike you, we can’t shed our ethics to the point we consider murder a “personal choice.” Funny how you tried to talk down to me from that low vantage point
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Postby Tarsonis » Tue Aug 13, 2019 7:12 pm

Valrifell wrote:
Tarsonis wrote:
Evangelicals supported trump for one reason: SCOTUS.


Why do they continue to support him and why are there paintings of him being anointed by Christ, Tars?


Because if he wins, RBG likely won’t live to see 46
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Ecclesiastes 1:18 "For in much wisdom is much vexation, and those who increase knowledge increase sorrow"
Thucydides: “The society that separates its scholars from its warriors will have its thinking done by cowards and its fighting by fools.”
1 Corinthians 5:12 "What business is it of mine to judge those outside the church? Are you not to judge those inside?"
Galatians 6:7 "Do not be deceived; God is not mocked, for you reap whatever you sow."
T. Stevens: "I don't hold with equality in all things, but I believe in equality under the Law."
James I of Aragon "Have you ever considered that our position is Idolatry to the Rabbi?"
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Postby Valrifell » Tue Aug 13, 2019 7:12 pm

Tarsonis wrote:
Valrifell wrote:
Why do they continue to support him and why are there paintings of him being anointed by Christ, Tars?


Because if he wins, RBG likely won’t live to see 46


You already have the lifetime majority, my guy. It's just personal with her.
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Postby Tarsonis » Tue Aug 13, 2019 7:13 pm

Eternal Lotharia wrote:
Valrifell wrote:
why are there paintings of him being anointed by Christ, Tars?

That's creepy...


There’s a reason Evangelicals made me a Catholic
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Ecclesiastes 1:18 "For in much wisdom is much vexation, and those who increase knowledge increase sorrow"
Thucydides: “The society that separates its scholars from its warriors will have its thinking done by cowards and its fighting by fools.”
1 Corinthians 5:12 "What business is it of mine to judge those outside the church? Are you not to judge those inside?"
Galatians 6:7 "Do not be deceived; God is not mocked, for you reap whatever you sow."
T. Stevens: "I don't hold with equality in all things, but I believe in equality under the Law."
James I of Aragon "Have you ever considered that our position is Idolatry to the Rabbi?"
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Postby Tarsonis » Tue Aug 13, 2019 7:15 pm

Jean-Paul Sartre wrote:
Duvniask wrote:A creepy cult of personality more or less.

It’s based around a zombie. Anything that comes after cannot possibly be weirder.


Zombies are raised by outside influences. Technically Jesus raised himself as well as Lazarus, so really he’s a necromancer with last stand perk
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Ecclesiastes 1:18 "For in much wisdom is much vexation, and those who increase knowledge increase sorrow"
Thucydides: “The society that separates its scholars from its warriors will have its thinking done by cowards and its fighting by fools.”
1 Corinthians 5:12 "What business is it of mine to judge those outside the church? Are you not to judge those inside?"
Galatians 6:7 "Do not be deceived; God is not mocked, for you reap whatever you sow."
T. Stevens: "I don't hold with equality in all things, but I believe in equality under the Law."
James I of Aragon "Have you ever considered that our position is Idolatry to the Rabbi?"
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Postby Arlenton » Tue Aug 13, 2019 7:17 pm

Tarsonis wrote:
Valrifell wrote:
Why do they continue to support him and why are there paintings of him being anointed by Christ, Tars?


Because if he wins, RBG likely won’t live to see 46

6-3

7-2???

Pls
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Postby Gormwood » Tue Aug 13, 2019 7:20 pm

Arlenton wrote:
Tarsonis wrote:
Because if he wins, RBG likely won’t live to see 46

6-3

7-2???

Pls

So many righties praying for RBG to die. Pure class.
Bloodthirsty savages who call for violence against the Right while simultaneously being unarmed defenseless sissies who will get slaughtered by the gun-toting Right in a civil war.
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Postby Tarsonis » Tue Aug 13, 2019 7:20 pm

Valrifell wrote:
Tarsonis wrote:
Because if he wins, RBG likely won’t live to see 46


You already have the lifetime majority, my guy. It's just personal with her.


Really has nothing to do with me, I don’t plot people’s deaths, but that’s just a fact.
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Ecclesiastes 1:18 "For in much wisdom is much vexation, and those who increase knowledge increase sorrow"
Thucydides: “The society that separates its scholars from its warriors will have its thinking done by cowards and its fighting by fools.”
1 Corinthians 5:12 "What business is it of mine to judge those outside the church? Are you not to judge those inside?"
Galatians 6:7 "Do not be deceived; God is not mocked, for you reap whatever you sow."
T. Stevens: "I don't hold with equality in all things, but I believe in equality under the Law."
James I of Aragon "Have you ever considered that our position is Idolatry to the Rabbi?"
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Postby Tarsonis » Tue Aug 13, 2019 7:24 pm

Eternal Lotharia wrote:
Tarsonis wrote:
Zombies are raised by outside influences. Technically Jesus raised himself as well as Lazarus, so really he’s a necromancer with last stand perk

Some theorized he used weed.

...I'm not joking.

So he could be a hippie. :p


In seriousness, he is a sweet-ass necromancer. Hard to figure out attack abilities though, so relegated to healer role.


Yes there’s quite a few of those nonsense theories out there.
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Ecclesiastes 1:18 "For in much wisdom is much vexation, and those who increase knowledge increase sorrow"
Thucydides: “The society that separates its scholars from its warriors will have its thinking done by cowards and its fighting by fools.”
1 Corinthians 5:12 "What business is it of mine to judge those outside the church? Are you not to judge those inside?"
Galatians 6:7 "Do not be deceived; God is not mocked, for you reap whatever you sow."
T. Stevens: "I don't hold with equality in all things, but I believe in equality under the Law."
James I of Aragon "Have you ever considered that our position is Idolatry to the Rabbi?"
Debating Christian Theology with Non-Christians pretty much anybody be like
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Postby Valrifell » Tue Aug 13, 2019 7:24 pm

Arlenton wrote:
Tarsonis wrote:
Because if he wins, RBG likely won’t live to see 46

6-3

7-2???

Pls


Everytime someone wishes RBG would die, she gets a bonus year from pure spite and GOP salt.
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Postby Tarsonis » Tue Aug 13, 2019 7:26 pm

Valrifell wrote:
Arlenton wrote:6-3

7-2???

Pls


Everytime someone wishes RBG would die, she gets a bonus year from pure spite and GOP salt.


So she’s gonna be Chief Justice for Starfleet at this rate.
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Ecclesiastes 1:18 "For in much wisdom is much vexation, and those who increase knowledge increase sorrow"
Thucydides: “The society that separates its scholars from its warriors will have its thinking done by cowards and its fighting by fools.”
1 Corinthians 5:12 "What business is it of mine to judge those outside the church? Are you not to judge those inside?"
Galatians 6:7 "Do not be deceived; God is not mocked, for you reap whatever you sow."
T. Stevens: "I don't hold with equality in all things, but I believe in equality under the Law."
James I of Aragon "Have you ever considered that our position is Idolatry to the Rabbi?"
Debating Christian Theology with Non-Christians pretty much anybody be like
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Postby Farnhamia » Tue Aug 13, 2019 7:27 pm

Tarsonis wrote:
Valrifell wrote:
Everytime someone wishes RBG would die, she gets a bonus year from pure spite and GOP salt.


So she’s gonna be Chief Justice for Starfleet at this rate.

She ... She's Boothby! :o
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Postby Tarsonis » Tue Aug 13, 2019 7:28 pm

Eternal Lotharia wrote:
Tarsonis wrote:
Yes there’s quite a few of those nonsense theories out there.

He's still useless in battle with no MP.


His MP is infinite.


On that note https://youtu.be/UxO4Xj5qrog
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Ecclesiastes 1:18 "For in much wisdom is much vexation, and those who increase knowledge increase sorrow"
Thucydides: “The society that separates its scholars from its warriors will have its thinking done by cowards and its fighting by fools.”
1 Corinthians 5:12 "What business is it of mine to judge those outside the church? Are you not to judge those inside?"
Galatians 6:7 "Do not be deceived; God is not mocked, for you reap whatever you sow."
T. Stevens: "I don't hold with equality in all things, but I believe in equality under the Law."
James I of Aragon "Have you ever considered that our position is Idolatry to the Rabbi?"
Debating Christian Theology with Non-Christians pretty much anybody be like
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Postby Revived Rhodesia » Tue Aug 13, 2019 7:29 pm

Tarsonis wrote:
Valrifell wrote:
Everytime someone wishes RBG would die, she gets a bonus year from pure spite and GOP salt.


So she’s gonna be Chief Justice for Starfleet at this rate.


Hopefully she'll end up retiring soon enough.
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Postby Telconi » Tue Aug 13, 2019 7:30 pm

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Well, I wouldn't say that is the only reason. But it was certainly a compelling one for folks in my neck of the woods. Two liberal justices from Her would have engaged in a degree of activism that would have made Trump look positively respectful of the Constitution. Ew.


It would have only been one, actually. RBG still wouldn't have retired and Kennedy retired, remember. There's no way there'd be two vacancies in a hypothetical Clinton administration.


Pretty sure Scalia was still gone tho... So she would have had at least two, unless Kennedy tried to stick it out to prevent her from getting it.
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Postby Tarsonis » Tue Aug 13, 2019 7:31 pm

Farnhamia wrote:
Tarsonis wrote:
So she’s gonna be Chief Justice for Starfleet at this rate.

She ... She's Boothby! :o


I feel like she wouldn’t need convincing that Data is a person
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Ecclesiastes 1:18 "For in much wisdom is much vexation, and those who increase knowledge increase sorrow"
Thucydides: “The society that separates its scholars from its warriors will have its thinking done by cowards and its fighting by fools.”
1 Corinthians 5:12 "What business is it of mine to judge those outside the church? Are you not to judge those inside?"
Galatians 6:7 "Do not be deceived; God is not mocked, for you reap whatever you sow."
T. Stevens: "I don't hold with equality in all things, but I believe in equality under the Law."
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Postby Farnhamia » Tue Aug 13, 2019 7:31 pm

Tarsonis wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:She ... She's Boothby! :o


I feel like she wouldn’t need convincing that Data is a person

I know, right?
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Postby Valrifell » Tue Aug 13, 2019 7:31 pm

Telconi wrote:
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It would have only been one, actually. RBG still wouldn't have retired and Kennedy retired, remember. There's no way there'd be two vacancies in a hypothetical Clinton administration.


Pretty sure Scalia was still gone tho... So she would have had at least two, unless Kennedy tried to stick it out to prevent her from getting it.


The only reason why Kennedy retired is that he and Trump hashed out some kind of deal behind closed doors, which resulted in Kavanaugh (a former clerk for Kennedy) being appointed.
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Postby Farnhamia » Tue Aug 13, 2019 7:32 pm

Valrifell wrote:
Telconi wrote:
Pretty sure Scalia was still gone tho... So she would have had at least two, unless Kennedy tried to stick it out to prevent her from getting it.


The only reason why Kennedy retired is that he and Trump hashed out some kind of deal behind closed doors, which resulted in Kavanaugh (a former clerk for Kennedy) being appointed.

And it was mere coincidence that Kennedy's son is Trump's banker at Deutsche Bank.
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<Sigh> NSG...where even the atheists are Augustinians. ~ The Archregimancy
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Postby Telconi » Tue Aug 13, 2019 7:35 pm

Tarsonis wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:She ... She's Boothby! :o


I feel like she wouldn’t need convincing that Data is a person


If she manages to limp on until 2365 folks would need convincing that she's a person.
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