2019-2020 US Election Megathread II: Tim Ryan's Empire

[Cannot think of a name]

Current polling says that Trump would lose to any of the Democratic candidates. He is not happy.

Are we still pretending polls are reliable?

Oh this old canard...

[Cannot think of a name]

Rhetoric about her aside, Pelosi knows how to do her job.


The nine items are:

• Background checks for nearly all gun sales (with 94% support)
• Path to citizenship for some undocumented young people. (79% support)
• Banning discrimination based on sexual orientation/gender identity (71% support)
• Allowing felons to vote post-incarceration (69% support)
• Automatic voting registration (65% support)
• Making Election Day a federal holiday (65% support)
• Allowing same-day voter registration nationally (64% support)
• Keeping U.S. in Paris climate agreement (60% support)
• Barring companies from asking about your previous pay (52% support)

The progressives need to sack her.

Also (x) on those poll numbers.

Polls are included in the linked article.

[Valrifell]

Are we still pretending polls are reliable?

Oh this old canard...

"The polls can't be right, they say people disagree with me. But that can't be! My ideas are the most popularest and bestest ideas and all my friends and cohorts say so!"

[Vassenor]

Current polling says that Trump would lose to any of the Democratic candidates. He is not happy.

Are we still pretending polls are reliable?

You mean the polls that predicted Clinton winning the national popular vote, which she did?

[Telconi]

Are we still pretending polls are reliable?

You mean the polls that predicted Clinton winning the national popular vote, which she did?

Oh boy here we go again...

[Cannot think of a name]

Oh this old canard...

"The polls can't be right, they say people disagree with me. But that can't be! My ideas are the most popularest and bestest ideas and all my friends and cohorts say so!"

At this point it's just fucking call and response.

"Poll shows thing."

"Oh yeah? Well the polls for 2016-"

"Were largely within the margins of error. When someone has a 70% chance of winning they'll lose three out of ten times. That's how probability works."

"Clinton lost! Polls said she would win, polls all suck now and forever! (unless they show Trump winning, or a marginal increase in support among Hispanics, then it's proof that the Democratic Party is doooooooomed)"

"Polls gave her a good chance of winning, and she won a significant portion of the popular vote and the states that gave Trump his electoral victory were won by thin margins, which again was a possibility that was accounted for in p-"

"Polls suck! Trump 2020!"

etc etc etc. Nothing new under the sun.

EDIT: fuck you, homonyms...

[Vassenor]

You mean the polls that predicted Clinton winning the national popular vote, which she did?

Oh boy here we go again...

Says the person who jumped right to the POLLS ARE UNRELIABLE NPC script.

[Telconi]

Oh boy here we go again...

Says the person who jumped right to the POLLS ARE UNRELIABLE NPC script.

As you may have noticed, there are flags marking different posters.

[Ifreann]

Rhetoric about her aside, Pelosi knows how to do her job.


The nine items are:

• Background checks for nearly all gun sales (with 94% support)
• Path to citizenship for some undocumented young people. (79% support)
• Banning discrimination based on sexual orientation/gender identity (71% support)
• Allowing felons to vote post-incarceration (69% support)
• Automatic voting registration (65% support)
• Making Election Day a federal holiday (65% support)
• Allowing same-day voter registration nationally (64% support)
• Keeping U.S. in Paris climate agreement (60% support)
• Barring companies from asking about your previous pay (52% support)

The progressives need to sack her.

Why?

[Telconi]

The progressives need to sack her.

Why?

Because she's too smart.

[San Lumen]

"The polls can't be right, they say people disagree with me. But that can't be! My ideas are the most popularest and bestest ideas and all my friends and cohorts say so!"

At this point it's just fucking call and response.

"Poll shows thing."

"Oh yeah? Well the polls for 2016-"

"Were largely within the margins of error. When someone has a 70% chance of winning they'll lose three out of ten times. That's how probability works."

"Clinton lost! Polls said she would win, polls all suck now and forever! (unless they show Trump winning, or a marginal increase in support among Hispanics, then it's proof that the Democratic Party is doooooooomed)"

"Polls gave her a good chance of winning, and she won a significant portion of the popular vote and the states that gave Trump his electoral victory were won by thin margins, which again was a possibility that was accounted for in p-"

"Polls suck! Trump 2020!"

etc etc etc. Nothing new under the sun.

EDIT: fuck you, homonyms...

2016 was an anomaly. While I'm taking anything for granted I find it hard to believe he will replicate his perfect storm next year.

[Tarsonis]

Are we still pretending polls are reliable?

You mean the polls that predicted Clinton winning the national popular vote, which she did?

You mean the polls that predicted a Clinton victory, but she didn’t? The polls have been saying Trump will lose to just about anyone for the last year, but the election prediction models still have trump winning. Keep clinging to hope though.

[Tarsonis]

Rhetoric about her aside, Pelosi knows how to do her job.

Pelosi has outlined an agenda of nine signature bills. Democrats have approved six of them. And Pelosi’s agenda, unlike impeachment, is popular with the public; it unites congressional Democrats and to some extent divides congressional Republicans. And these bills, as opposed to impeaching Trump, align well with what appears to be Pelosi’s broader strategy: to force GOP incumbents to vote against popular legislation in advance of the 2020 elections, protect Democrats in closely divided districts from tough votes, and keep the Democrats talking about and doing things that the public likes.

Five of the bills passed without a single ‘no’ vote from a Democrat. A bill to expand background checks to nearly all gun sales drew two “no” votes among Democrats — both from members who represent districts won by Trump in 2016. That’s more than 1,200 total “yes” votes for the Pelosi agenda among Democratic House members, compared with two “no” votes. Pelosi hasn’t quite split Republicans — the most “aye” votes that any of the six bills received from Republicans was eight (out of their 198-person caucus) — but voting against these bills probably isn’t ideal for the Republicans.

The key planks in the bills all have the support of the majority of the public — and some of them (like expanding background checks for gun sales) are extremely popular, according to polls.

The nine items are:

• Background checks for nearly all gun sales (with 94% support)
• Path to citizenship for some undocumented young people. (79% support)
• Banning discrimination based on sexual orientation/gender identity (71% support)
• Allowing felons to vote post-incarceration (69% support)
• Automatic voting registration (65% support)
• Making Election Day a federal holiday (65% support)
• Allowing same-day voter registration nationally (64% support)
• Keeping U.S. in Paris climate agreement (60% support)
• Barring companies from asking about your previous pay (52% support)

But as Pelosi faces an increasingly vocal faction of her party pushing for impeachment, the speaker has a pretty strong anti-impeachment argument: Why should Democrats push a fairly unpopular position with no chance of success when they can instead push forward equally fruitless but at least popular positions?

Her view might carry the day. Lots of House Democrats might ultimately support impeaching Trump if it were to come up for a vote. But only about a quarter of them are pushing for it now. The rest are tacitly approving of Pelosi’s strategy — and it’s not surprising that a bunch of politicians approve of a strategy that looks so good politically.

....why doesn’t Pelosi run for president? She’s the only democrat who actually seems to know what they’re doing.

[Telconi]

Rhetoric about her aside, Pelosi knows how to do her job.


The nine items are:

• Background checks for nearly all gun sales (with 94% support)
• Path to citizenship for some undocumented young people. (79% support)
• Banning discrimination based on sexual orientation/gender identity (71% support)
• Allowing felons to vote post-incarceration (69% support)
• Automatic voting registration (65% support)
• Making Election Day a federal holiday (65% support)
• Allowing same-day voter registration nationally (64% support)
• Keeping U.S. in Paris climate agreement (60% support)
• Barring companies from asking about your previous pay (52% support)

....why doesn’t Pelosi run for president? She’s the only democrat who actually seems to know what they’re doing.

The Secret Service strongly dislikes all the machinery that keeps her alive. It's a nightmare to screen for threats.

[Valrifell]

Rhetoric about her aside, Pelosi knows how to do her job.


The nine items are:

• Background checks for nearly all gun sales (with 94% support)
• Path to citizenship for some undocumented young people. (79% support)
• Banning discrimination based on sexual orientation/gender identity (71% support)
• Allowing felons to vote post-incarceration (69% support)
• Automatic voting registration (65% support)
• Making Election Day a federal holiday (65% support)
• Allowing same-day voter registration nationally (64% support)
• Keeping U.S. in Paris climate agreement (60% support)
• Barring companies from asking about your previous pay (52% support)

....why doesn’t Pelosi run for president? She’s the only democrat who actually seems to know what they’re doing.

The Speaker of the House is a plenty powerful position in its own right, and you get less responsibility, less working hours, and only a fraction of the public blame and humiliation. Well, it used to be that way.

[South Odreria]

Biden's lead falls to five.

Nothing to see here folks

Best shot of beeting trunp

[Farnhamia]

Biden's lead falls to five.

Nothing to see here folks

Best shot of beeting trunp

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[The Andromeda Archipelago]

Biden's lead falls to five.

In other news: ANY of the other contenders for the Democratic nomination would be better than Drunk-Tweeter-in-Chief, Donald Trump.

[Tarsonis]

In other news: ANY of the other contenders for the Democratic nomination would be better than Drunk-Tweeter-in-Chief, Donald Trump.

Not Gabbard. Or Gillibrand.

But they won't win. Anyone else is better.

Uh Swalwell can be mildly inconvenienced in a dumpster fire

[Telconi]

Biden's lead falls to five.

In other news: ANY of the other contenders for the Democratic nomination would be better than Drunk-Tweeter-in-Chief, Donald Trump.

That "any" should have more asterisks than airline bonus miles.

[Ifreann]

Why?

Because she's too smart.

That'd certainly be a novel political strategy.

[Kowani]

Because she's too smart.

That'd certainly be a novel political strategy.

Not really. Kaiser Wilhem did that for Bismarck, and look how well that turned out!

[Telconi]

That'd certainly be a novel political strategy.

Not really. Kaiser Wilhem did that for Bismarck, and look how well that turned out!

Bismarck stopped being in power.

[Saiwania]

I hope Joe Biden is the nominee, the Democrats aren't going to defeat Trump with him. Are people aware that Biden earned the nickname Butthead Biden in 1989 when he began having hair follicle transplants from his buttocks to his scalp?

[Farnhamia]

I hope Joe Biden is the nominee, the Democrats aren't going to defeat Trump with him. Are people aware that Biden earned the nickname Butthead Biden in 1989 when he began having hair follicle transplants from his buttocks to his scalp?

Conservapedia is such a reliable source. I'll take Biden's hair over the Great Comb-Over any day. At least it covers a functioning brain.