2019-2020 US Election Megathread II: Tim Ryan's Empire

[Telconi]

I would be open to the possibility of supporting more Republican politicians who care about the environment, even if they have more permissive views regarding gun control. However, I am pretty sure that protecting the environment and stopping climate change is far more important than some stupid guns.

Try telling some here that.

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Yeah how dare anyone have differing opinions

[Nea Byzantia]

Yes.

You don't have to rub it in.

You must be from the Virgin Pacific Coast

[Loben The 2nd]

You don't have to rub it in.

You must be from the Virgin Pacific Coast

The giant cancerous tumor known as California.

[Napkizemlja]

I would be open to the possibility of supporting more Republican politicians who care about the environment, even if they have more permissive views regarding gun control. However, I am pretty sure that protecting the environment and stopping climate change is far more important than some stupid guns.

Try telling some here that.

We can just shoot climate change. Best of both worlds.

[San Lumen]

Try telling some here that.

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Yeah how dare anyone have differing opinions

there is a difference between differing opinion and just plain selfishness

[Tarsonis]

Neither should environmental recovery come at the expense of everything we hold dear if it can be avoided. You and people like you are contributing to making it an either or issue while I want to fight for the environment and the rights of others.

And yet again I ask what good will they do when our children inherit a ruined world?

And I've answered this many time, helping me and my children defend the bunker against Lord Humungus' Nitro Marauders and to secure scarce resources.

[San Lumen]

And yet again I ask what good will they do when our children inherit a ruined world?

And I've answered this many time, helping me and my children defend the bunker against Lord Humungus' Nitro Marauders and to secure scarce resources.

and you could avoid that future but your stupid guns mater more.

[Tarsonis]

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there is a difference between differing opinion and just plain selfishness

not inherently, no

[Tarsonis]

And I've answered this many time, helping me and my children defend the bunker against Lord Humungus' Nitro Marauders and to secure scarce resources.

and you could avoid that future but your stupid guns mater more.

matter.* And you could avoid that future, but your hatred of guns matters more.

[Nea Byzantia]

You must be from the Virgin Pacific Coast

The giant cancerous tumor known as California.

I'm so sorry.

[Telconi]

Something something...

there is a difference between differing opinion and just plain selfishness

And yet it doesn't stop you from being selfish, so what good is this difference?

[San Lumen]

and you could avoid that future but your stupid guns mater more.

matter.* And you could avoid that future, but your hatred of guns matters more.

Why do we have to bargain on this? Why can't both parties work together on climate change and the environment?

The planet should not be a bargaining chip and to make it one shows how short sighted and self centered people like you are.

[Telconi]

matter.* And you could avoid that future, but your hatred of guns matters more.

Why do we have to bargain on this? Why can't both parties work together on climate change and the environment?

The planet should not be a bargaining chip and to make it one shows how short sighted and self centered people like you are.

Yes, as soon as you abandon evil policy positions.

[Tarsonis]

matter.* And you could avoid that future, but your hatred of guns matters more.

Why do we have to bargain on this? Why can't both parties work together on climate change and the environment?

The planet should not be a bargaining chip and to make it one shows how short sighted and self centered people like you are.

I'm not a member of either party, But the republicans aren't budging on the climate, so if you want me to vote for the dems then the dems need to drop their crusade on weapons. it's really that simple but you want to have your pet issue, and all the other issues. You want us to do all the sacrificing. So really who's the selfish one in this situation?

[San Lumen]

Why do we have to bargain on this? Why can't both parties work together on climate change and the environment?

The planet should not be a bargaining chip and to make it one shows how short sighted and self centered people like you are.

Yes, as soon as you abandon evil policy positions.

Sometime in the near distant future:

Child: Grandpa/Grandma what are birds and fish?

Grandpa/Grandma: Birds were creatures who flew in the sky and made nests in trees, sang beautiful songs and came in many sizes ands colors but we destroyed their homes to build cookie cutter housing. Fish swam in the ocean and came in many shapes and sizing but due to demand for food we oversfished and made them go extinct but i didnt care then nor did others. We cared more about guns and other stupid squabbles. i’m sorry for the terrible world you inherited. I wish things could have been different for you.”

[San Lumen]

Why do we have to bargain on this? Why can't both parties work together on climate change and the environment?

The planet should not be a bargaining chip and to make it one shows how short sighted and self centered people like you are.

I'm not a member of either party, But the republicans aren't budging on the climate, so if you want me to vote for the dems then the dems need to drop their crusade on weapons. it's really that simple but you want to have your pet issue, and all the other issues. You want us to do all the sacrificing. So really who's the selfish one in this situation?

You are. You want to make the future of life on earth a bargaining chip. That's beyond reprehensible.

[Tarsonis]

Yes, as soon as you abandon evil policy positions.

Sometime in the near distant future:

Child: Grandpa/Grandma what are birds and fish?

Grandpa/Grandma: Birds were creatures who flew in the sky and made nests in trees, sang beautiful songs and came in many sizes ands colors but we destroyed their homes to build cookie cutter housing. Fish swam in the ocean and came in many shapes and sizing but due to demand for food we oversfished and made them go extinct but i didnt care then nor did others. We cared more about guns and other stupid squabbles. i’m sorry for the terrible world you inherited. I wish things could have been different for you.”

Elsewhere:

Child: "Grandpa how do we have all this stuff saved."

Grandpa" Well we had guns, thus when the raids started we were able to fend off all the raiders, and take their stash as well. We're pretty much set."

[Telconi]

Yes, as soon as you abandon evil policy positions.

Sometime in the near distant future:

Child: Grandpa/Grandma what are birds and fish?

Grandpa/Grandma: Birds were creatures who flew in the sky and made nests in trees, sang beautiful songs and came in many sizes ands colors but we destroyed their homes to build cookie cutter housing. Fish swam in the ocean and came in many shapes and sizing but due to demand for food we oversfished and made them go extinct but i didnt care then nor did others. We cared more about guns and other stupid squabbles. i’m sorry for the terrible world you inherited. I wish things could have been different for you.”

Blah blah blah what's a bird or a fish. If my kid lives in a society free from people like you it'll be more than worth it.

[Tarsonis]

I'm not a member of either party, But the republicans aren't budging on the climate, so if you want me to vote for the dems then the dems need to drop their crusade on weapons. it's really that simple but you want to have your pet issue, and all the other issues. You want us to do all the sacrificing. So really who's the selfish one in this situation?

You are. You want to make the future of life on earth a bargaining chip. That's beyond reprehensible.

You're making it just as much. You're telling me I have to give up my gun rights to support environmentalism. Fuck that.

[San Lumen]

Sometime in the near distant future:

Child: Grandpa/Grandma what are birds and fish?

Grandpa/Grandma: Birds were creatures who flew in the sky and made nests in trees, sang beautiful songs and came in many sizes ands colors but we destroyed their homes to build cookie cutter housing. Fish swam in the ocean and came in many shapes and sizing but due to demand for food we oversfished and made them go extinct but i didnt care then nor did others. We cared more about guns and other stupid squabbles. i’m sorry for the terrible world you inherited. I wish things could have been different for you.”

Elsewhere:

Child: "Grandpa how do we have all this stuff saved."

Grandpa" Well we had guns, thus when the raids started we were able to fend off all the raiders, and take their stash as well. We're pretty much set."

Child: couldn't we have avoided this? I read in a book this all could have been prevented but you did nothing. Why didnt you do something? Why where you so selfish then

[Telconi]

I'm not a member of either party, But the republicans aren't budging on the climate, so if you want me to vote for the dems then the dems need to drop their crusade on weapons. it's really that simple but you want to have your pet issue, and all the other issues. You want us to do all the sacrificing. So really who's the selfish one in this situation?

You are. You want to make the future of life on earth a bargaining chip. That's beyond reprehensible.

Says the guy who values oppressing others more than saving the planet.

You calling others reprehensible funny, in a sad, "this species is fucked" sort of way.

[Napkizemlja]

Yes, as soon as you abandon evil policy positions.

Sometime in the near distant future:

Child: Grandpa/Grandma what are birds and fish?

Grandpa/Grandma: Birds were creatures who flew in the sky and made nests in trees, sang beautiful songs and came in many sizes ands colors but we destroyed their homes to build cookie cutter housing. Fish swam in the ocean and came in many shapes and sizing but due to demand for food we oversfished and made them go extinct but i didnt care then nor did others. We cared more about guns and other stupid squabbles. i’m sorry for the terrible world you inherited. I wish things could have been different for you.”

I think only 14% of bird species are estimated to go extinct by the end of the century.

[Nea Byzantia]

Sometime in the near distant future:

Child: Grandpa/Grandma what are birds and fish?

Grandpa/Grandma: Birds were creatures who flew in the sky and made nests in trees, sang beautiful songs and came in many sizes ands colors but we destroyed their homes to build cookie cutter housing. Fish swam in the ocean and came in many shapes and sizing but due to demand for food we oversfished and made them go extinct but i didnt care then nor did others. We cared more about guns and other stupid squabbles. i’m sorry for the terrible world you inherited. I wish things could have been different for you.”

Elsewhere:

Child: "Grandpa how do we have all this stuff saved."

Grandpa" Well we had guns, thus when the raids started we were able to fend off all the raiders, and take their stash as well. We're pretty much set."

Are you that Grandpa?

[Tarsonis]

Elsewhere:

Child: "Grandpa how do we have all this stuff saved."

Grandpa" Well we had guns, thus when the raids started we were able to fend off all the raiders, and take their stash as well. We're pretty much set."

Child: couldn't we have avoided this? I read in a book this all could have been prevented but you did nothing. Why didnt you do something? Why where you so selfish then

"The people who wanted to help the environment also wanted to rob us of our human rights, and we said no. If they had just stopped their crusade on human rights, everything would have been fine, but we survived, they didn't.

[San Lumen]

Sometime in the near distant future:

Child: Grandpa/Grandma what are birds and fish?

Grandpa/Grandma: Birds were creatures who flew in the sky and made nests in trees, sang beautiful songs and came in many sizes ands colors but we destroyed their homes to build cookie cutter housing. Fish swam in the ocean and came in many shapes and sizing but due to demand for food we oversfished and made them go extinct but i didnt care then nor did others. We cared more about guns and other stupid squabbles. i’m sorry for the terrible world you inherited. I wish things could have been different for you.”

Blah blah blah what's a bird or a fish. If my kid lives in a society free from people like you it'll be more than worth it.

a world like that would be worth it to you if it means access to any and all guns? Free from people like me? What is that supposed to mean?