2019-2020 US Election Megathread II: Tim Ryan's Empire

[Thuzbekistan]

You should, though. The poor should always be able to defend themselves.

I think we all know that my answer to that assertion is one that you’re not gonna like.

Wrong mate. Libertarian socialists and other leftist libertarian parties always want the workers armed.

Ah, my bad. A viable platform.

I'm gonna perform a coup just to make that word illegal

[Tarsonis]

All your party has to do is recognize guns as a fundamental right and you can have the nicest environment possible. It's not that hard.

You do not have a right to any and all firearms. Why the hell should the environment be a damm bargaining chip?!!! What is wrong with people?

Your guns wont matter when all the green is gone and the air is unfit to breathe and the water too toxic to drink and there is massive food shortages.

We didn’t create the dichotomy the politicians did. The democrats are the party of sweeping gun control and environmentalism, while the republicans are the party of gun rights and not giving a shit about the environment. As it’s been said, if the Democrats stop their anti gun crusade it creates room for lateral movement and we aren’t forced to pick between our rights and the environment. It’s a shame you’re so selfish you’re unwilling negotiate at all. You clearly care more about restricting gun rights than you do about the environment.

[Valrifell]

Make your own god damn thread ffs.

[Tarsonis]

Make your own god damn thread ffs.

Problem with that being is we are still talking about the 2020 election.

[Thuzbekistan]

Make your own god damn thread ffs.

Problem with that being is we are still talking about the 2020 election.

Nah yall need a thread just for you two

[Tarsonis]

Problem with that being is we are still talking about the 2020 election.

Nah yall need a thread just for you two

Like you haven’t been a part of the debate

[Thuzbekistan]

Nah yall need a thread just for you two

Like you haven’t been a part of the debate

I didn't say I wouldnt join in

[The Emerald Legion]

Actually, I do have a right to any and all firearms. You're falling back on the worst possible scenario, one that I have seen no evidence for. That kind of devastation would take an exceptionally large asteroid or nuclear war.

No you do not. Bump stocks are now illegal in some states.

You dont have a access to a fully automatic rifle, machine gun or gatling gun. They are illegal in every state. No one has challenged those laws.

Yeah those scientists know nothing. You clearly know better than Bill Nye or Neil DeGrasse Tyson.

There's literally a challenge to the NFA in the supreme Court right now.

People DO challenge these laws constantly. People find loopholes to these laws, constantly. Bump stocks are one. The crank Gatling guns people build are another. These laws are unconstitutional and disliked by quite a large portion of the population.

Hell the NRA is a MODERATE pro gun organization because they tend to only want to fight new gun control. Not repeal existing.

[Ors Might]

No more than guns should

The planet is more important. The environment should not be a bargaining chip.

Neither should environmental recovery come at the expense of everything we hold dear if it can be avoided. You and people like you are contributing to making it an either or issue while I want to fight for the environment and the rights of others.

[San Lumen]

No you do not. Bump stocks are now illegal in some states.

You dont have a access to a fully automatic rifle, machine gun or gatling gun. They are illegal in every state. No one has challenged those laws.

Yeah those scientists know nothing. You clearly know better than Bill Nye or Neil DeGrasse Tyson.

There's literally a challenge to the NFA in the supreme Court right now.

People DO challenge these laws constantly. People find loopholes to these laws, constantly. Bump stocks are one. The crank Gatling guns people build are another. These laws are unconstitutional and disliked by quite a large portion of the population.

Hell the NRA is a MODERATE pro gun organization because they tend to only want to fight new gun control. Not repeal existing.

The court rejected the challenge this morning

Crank Gatling guns have not been manufactured since 1911. They are perfectly legal to build.

How are those laws unconstitutional? Should you simply have a right to any and all firearms including rotary cannons?

[San Lumen]

The planet is more important. The environment should not be a bargaining chip.

Neither should environmental recovery come at the expense of everything we hold dear if it can be avoided. You and people like you are contributing to making it an either or issue while I want to fight for the environment and the rights of others.

And yet again I ask what good will they do when our children inherit a ruined world?

[Napkizemlja]

There's literally a challenge to the NFA in the supreme Court right now.

People DO challenge these laws constantly. People find loopholes to these laws, constantly. Bump stocks are one. The crank Gatling guns people build are another. These laws are unconstitutional and disliked by quite a large portion of the population.

Hell the NRA is a MODERATE pro gun organization because they tend to only want to fight new gun control. Not repeal existing.

The court rejected the challenge this morning

Crank Gatling guns have not been manufactured since 1911. They are perfectly legal to build.

How are those laws unconstitutional? Should you simply have a right to any and all firearms including rotary cannons?

Yeah sure, I mean you can already own cannons and tanks.

[Napkizemlja]

I mean, there is a limit. I don't think you should be able to own a nuclear weapon or even really powerful bombs (MOAB, etc). But I mean, owning a JDAM is acceptable imo.

[Telconi]

Neither should environmental recovery come at the expense of everything we hold dear if it can be avoided. You and people like you are contributing to making it an either or issue while I want to fight for the environment and the rights of others.

And yet again I ask what good will they do when our children inherit a ruined world?

Neither one is any good without the other, so it's a meaningless argument.

[Telconi]

The court rejected the challenge this morning

Crank Gatling guns have not been manufactured since 1911. They are perfectly legal to build.

How are those laws unconstitutional? Should you simply have a right to any and all firearms including rotary cannons?

Yeah sure, I mean you can already own cannons and tanks.

I can't

[Nea Byzantia]

Yeah sure, I mean you can already own cannons and tanks.

I can't

I'd imagine its quite expensive...

[Telconi]

I can't

I'd imagine its quite expensive...

IIRC prison is free, it's the damned opportunity costs tho.

[Napkizemlja]

Yeah sure, I mean you can already own cannons and tanks.

I can't

The Chad Midwest vs the Virgin Pacific Coast.

[San Lumen]

And yet again I ask what good will they do when our children inherit a ruined world?

Neither one is any good without the other, so it's a meaningless argument.

No it isnt.

[Telconi]

Neither one is any good without the other, so it's a meaningless argument.

No it isnt.

Yes, you've said as much, fortunately for me nothing compels me to agree with you.

[Bienenhalde]

I would be open to the possibility of supporting more Republican politicians who care about the environment, even if they have more permissive views regarding gun control. However, I am pretty sure that protecting the environment and stopping climate change is far more important than some stupid guns.

[Napkizemlja]

I would be open to the possibility of supporting more Republican politicians who care about the environment, even if they have more permissive views regarding gun control. However, I am pretty sure that protecting the environment and stopping climate change is far more important than some stupid guns.

We can't protect the environment if we can't shoot climate change.

[San Lumen]

I would be open to the possibility of supporting more Republican politicians who care about the environment, even if they have more permissive views regarding gun control. However, I am pretty sure that protecting the environment and stopping climate change is far more important than some stupid guns.

Try telling some here that.

[Loben The 2nd]

I can't

The Chad Midwest vs the Virgin Pacific Coast.

Yes.

[Telconi]

The Chad Midwest vs the Virgin Pacific Coast.

Yes.

You don't have to rub it in.