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Postby Heloin » Tue May 14, 2019 1:15 pm

Inkopolitia wrote:
Heloin wrote:Pirating games is bad and I'd never advocate it.

What?

Porting games to PC and not even paying to play them is not pirating?

Oh, and that, I should have worded myself better. Good luck playing online Nintendo games on PC. :lol2:

I'd gladly pay the people creating the emulators, there pretty cool and do a lot of really hard work.

Sounds fine to me.

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Postby Inkopolitia » Tue May 14, 2019 1:17 pm

Heloin wrote:
Inkopolitia wrote:Porting games to PC and not even paying to play them is not pirating?

Oh, and that, I should have worded myself better. Good luck playing online Nintendo games on PC. :lol2:

I'd gladly pay the people creating the emulators, there pretty cool and do a lot of really hard work.

Sounds fine to me.

They do hard work? Yes, they do. But that doesn't mean it's morally right to port games illegally.

Each to their own, I guess. For me, ths fun comes in an Online form. I have sank more than 3000 hours on Splatoon 1 and 2.
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Postby Federal Spanish States » Tue May 14, 2019 1:20 pm

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Hammer Britannia wrote:Gamers, we should not fight.

PC, Console, Both, we all face the same enemy: Society. We must rise up against society and then wipe out the Mobile Gamers before establishing a world of unity and peace for gamers.


Society just needs to pull the electric plug and no more PC's or consoles. Some of those modern ones especially like to eat power like there is no tomorrow.


Read this - on PC's for gaming. Seems some use more energy then three refrigerators. - https://v1.escapistmagazine.com/forums/ ... rigerators

This on the consoles - https://www.nrdc.org/experts/pierre-del ... waste-when

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Kinda... nonsensical. First things first, we're talking about HIGH END here. PC's are varied.ç

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Postby Petrolheadia » Tue May 14, 2019 1:20 pm

Rio Cana wrote:
Hammer Britannia wrote:Gamers, we should not fight.

PC, Console, Both, we all face the same enemy: Society. We must rise up against society and then wipe out the Mobile Gamers before establishing a world of unity and peace for gamers.


Society just needs to pull the electric plug and no more PC's or consoles. Some of those modern ones especially like to eat power like there is no tomorrow.


Read this - on PC's for gaming. Seems some use more energy then three refrigerators. - https://v1.escapistmagazine.com/forums/ ... rigerators

This on the consoles - https://www.nrdc.org/experts/pierre-del ... waste-when

And so?

Also, a refridgerator runs 24/7. A PC or a console - considerably less.
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Postby Hirota » Tue May 14, 2019 1:24 pm

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Seriously though, who cares? Sometimes I wanna play Halo, other times it's Europa Universalis. Variety is the spice of life.

Also, gaming thread is over there. This should be locked or merged with that.
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Postby Heloin » Tue May 14, 2019 1:25 pm

Inkopolitia wrote:
Heloin wrote:I'd gladly pay the people creating the emulators, there pretty cool and do a lot of really hard work.

Sounds fine to me.

They do hard work? Yes, they do. But that doesn't mean it's morally right to port games illegally.

Each to their own, I guess. For me, ths fun comes in an Online form. I have sank more than 3000 hours on Splatoon 1 and 2.

If a company wants to lock games out of the PC market because it has so little faith in their consule then that's the company's problem.

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Postby Inkopolitia » Tue May 14, 2019 1:31 pm

Heloin wrote:
Inkopolitia wrote:They do hard work? Yes, they do. But that doesn't mean it's morally right to port games illegally.

Each to their own, I guess. For me, ths fun comes in an Online form. I have sank more than 3000 hours on Splatoon 1 and 2.

If a company wants to lock games out of the PC market because it has so little faith in their consule then that's the company's problem.

It's not having no faith in their console, and it's not the company's problem, it's called "Business". It's a dick move to illegally port a game to PC because you're too much of a cheap person to buy a console that has the game you want to play.
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Postby Heloin » Tue May 14, 2019 1:37 pm

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Heloin wrote:If a company wants to lock games out of the PC market because it has so little faith in their consule then that's the company's problem.

It's not having no faith in their console, and it's not the company's problem, it's called "Business". It's a dick move to illegally port a game to PC because you're too much of a cheap person to buy a console that has the game you want to play.

Calling me a dick because I play Bubble Bobble on my laptop? Harsh matey.

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Postby Inkopolitia » Tue May 14, 2019 1:38 pm

Heloin wrote:
Inkopolitia wrote:It's not having no faith in their console, and it's not the company's problem, it's called "Business". It's a dick move to illegally port a game to PC because you're too much of a cheap person to buy a console that has the game you want to play.

Calling me a dick because I play Bubble Bobble on my laptop? Harsh matey.

I never called you a dick. I called it a dick move. And I was saying that porting Console games illegally is a dick move. Do you happen to port them yourself?
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Postby Purpelia » Tue May 14, 2019 1:38 pm

Inkopolitia wrote:
Heloin wrote:I'd gladly pay the people creating the emulators, there pretty cool and do a lot of really hard work.

Sounds fine to me.

They do hard work? Yes, they do. But that doesn't mean it's morally right to port games illegally.

Each to their own, I guess. For me, ths fun comes in an Online form. I have sank more than 3000 hours on Splatoon 1 and 2.

If the original developers don't want to take my money than its not morally wrong for me not to force them. The dick move is trying to force us to jump through hoops just so that we can give THEM our money.
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Postby Inkopolitia » Tue May 14, 2019 1:41 pm

Purpelia wrote:
Inkopolitia wrote:They do hard work? Yes, they do. But that doesn't mean it's morally right to port games illegally.

Each to their own, I guess. For me, ths fun comes in an Online form. I have sank more than 3000 hours on Splatoon 1 and 2.

If the original developers don't want to take my money than its not morally wrong for me not to force them. The dick move is trying to force us to jump through hoops just so that we can give THEM our money.

Then again, it's business, pirating games, at least in my opinion, is a dick move. It's called business, business creates competition between different companies, and competition creates better games. That's at least how I see it.
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Postby The United Artherian Federation » Tue May 14, 2019 1:45 pm

What? What is this? The consoles are infighting?
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Postby Heloin » Tue May 14, 2019 1:48 pm

Inkopolitia wrote:
Purpelia wrote:If the original developers don't want to take my money than its not morally wrong for me not to force them. The dick move is trying to force us to jump through hoops just so that we can give THEM our money.

Then again, it's business, pirating games, at least in my opinion, is a dick move. It's called business, business creates competition between different companies, and competition creates better games. That's at least how I see it.

They could make more money selling games on both PC and their consule. If they want to restrict their market reach and refuse to take my money fine by me.

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Postby Inkopolitia » Tue May 14, 2019 1:52 pm

Heloin wrote:
Inkopolitia wrote:Then again, it's business, pirating games, at least in my opinion, is a dick move. It's called business, business creates competition between different companies, and competition creates better games. That's at least how I see it.

They could make more money selling games on both PC and their consule. If they want to restrict their market reach and refuse to take my money fine by me.

If they did that, the console market would quickly die (Which would be a pretty big blow to every company that focuses on games and consoles). Assuming that consoles didn't die, that's fine and dandy, go play your PC games, but if those games aren't available on PC, it just feels like a dick move to me to rob a company of it's money.
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Postby Purpelia » Tue May 14, 2019 1:57 pm

Inkopolitia wrote:
Purpelia wrote:If the original developers don't want to take my money than its not morally wrong for me not to force them. The dick move is trying to force us to jump through hoops just so that we can give THEM our money.

Then again, it's business, pirating games, at least in my opinion, is a dick move. It's called business, business creates competition between different companies, and competition creates better games. That's at least how I see it.

And pirating games that don't get ported to the PC serves to demonstrate to those businesses that there is demand for their product on the PC market and thus incentivizes them to expand into said market. Thus everybody wins in the long run.
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Postby Petrolheadia » Tue May 14, 2019 1:57 pm

Inkopolitia wrote:
Heloin wrote:They could make more money selling games on both PC and their consule. If they want to restrict their market reach and refuse to take my money fine by me.

If they did that, the console market would quickly die (Which would be a pretty big blow to every company that focuses on games and consoles). Assuming that consoles didn't die, that's fine and dandy, go play your PC games, but if those games aren't available on PC, it just feels like a dick move to me to rob a company of it's money.

It's not robbery. If a company is not trying to enter a market, grey and black market dealings are A-OK. If they don't enter it and lose money, it's their fault.

Companies are here to serve us, not the other way around.
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Postby Heloin » Tue May 14, 2019 2:00 pm

Inkopolitia wrote:
Heloin wrote:They could make more money selling games on both PC and their consule. If they want to restrict their market reach and refuse to take my money fine by me.

If they did that, the console market would quickly die (Which would be a pretty big blow to every company that focuses on games and consoles). Assuming that consoles didn't die, that's fine and dandy, go play your PC games, but if those games aren't available on PC, it just feels like a dick move to me to rob a company of it's money.

So allowing console games onto PC will kill the console industry? That's a laughable prospect right there.

Pirating games is bad, but if companies don't want to provide me with a way of buying there product I'll gladly pirate it with not the slightest since of guilt.

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Postby Inkopolitia » Tue May 14, 2019 2:00 pm

Petrolheadia wrote:
Inkopolitia wrote:If they did that, the console market would quickly die (Which would be a pretty big blow to every company that focuses on games and consoles). Assuming that consoles didn't die, that's fine and dandy, go play your PC games, but if those games aren't available on PC, it just feels like a dick move to me to rob a company of it's money.

It's not robbery. If a company is not trying to enter a market, grey and black market dealings are A-OK. If they don't enter it and lose money, it's their fault.

Companies are here to serve us, not the other way around.

It is robbery, be ause you are using their product illegally without paying them.
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Inkopolitia wrote:Then again, it's business, pirating games, at least in my opinion, is a dick move. It's called business, business creates competition between different companies, and competition creates better games. That's at least how I see it.

And pirating games that don't get ported to the PC serves to demonstrate to those businesses that there is demand for their product on the PC market and thus incentivizes them to expand into said market. Thus everybody wins in the long run.

As long as it brings the release date of Splatoon 3 closer then fine by me lol. But as of now, pirating games is still illegal and a dick move imo
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Postby Petrolheadia » Tue May 14, 2019 2:02 pm

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Petrolheadia wrote:It's not robbery. If a company is not trying to enter a market, grey and black market dealings are A-OK. If they don't enter it and lose money, it's their fault.

Companies are here to serve us, not the other way around.

It is robbery, be ause you are using their product illegally without paying them.

If those SOBs want money, they better make a product that makes me pay.
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Postby Heloin » Tue May 14, 2019 2:06 pm

Inkopolitia wrote:
Petrolheadia wrote:It's not robbery. If a company is not trying to enter a market, grey and black market dealings are A-OK. If they don't enter it and lose money, it's their fault.

Companies are here to serve us, not the other way around.

It is robbery, be ause you are using their product illegally without paying them.
Purpelia wrote:And pirating games that don't get ported to the PC serves to demonstrate to those businesses that there is demand for their product on the PC market and thus incentivizes them to expand into said market. Thus everybody wins in the long run.

As long as it brings the release date of Splatoon 3 closer then fine by me lol. But as of now, pirating games is still illegal and a dick move imo

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Postby Inkopolitia » Tue May 14, 2019 2:11 pm

Heloin wrote:
Inkopolitia wrote:It is robbery, be ause you are using their product illegally without paying them.

As long as it brings the release date of Splatoon 3 closer then fine by me lol. But as of now, pirating games is still illegal and a dick move imo

Stealing copies of Bloggo's Pow is wrong.

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Postby United States of Americanas » Tue May 14, 2019 2:16 pm

Inkopolitia wrote:
Petrolheadia wrote:It's not robbery. If a company is not trying to enter a market, grey and black market dealings are A-OK. If they don't enter it and lose money, it's their fault.

Companies are here to serve us, not the other way around.

It is robbery, be ause you are using their product illegally without paying them.
Purpelia wrote:And pirating games that don't get ported to the PC serves to demonstrate to those businesses that there is demand for their product on the PC market and thus incentivizes them to expand into said market. Thus everybody wins in the long run.

As long as it brings the release date of Splatoon 3 closer then fine by me lol. But as of now, pirating games is still illegal and a dick move imo

To shut the piracy wingnuts up.

If you own a copy of the game for console then you have a legal right to use an emulator to play it on your computer.

If you never bought the game and download ROMS for it then it is indeed piracy.

All that put aside I’m putting my vote for PS3 PS4 and Nintendo Switch on the board.

Not a huge fan of Xbox. For how expensive it is and game pricing I’ll just use my gaming PC & Steam. Then I don’t have to deal with the wonky Xbox controller, I can use whatever controller I want.

As a person who grew up on Sega Genesis NES and small form factor controllers I prefer the Sony PS3 controller for use on my gaming PC.

If I had to select just one console to crown as the best console out there I’d vote Ps4
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Postby Inkopolitia » Tue May 14, 2019 2:20 pm

United States of Americanas wrote:
Inkopolitia wrote:It is robbery, be ause you are using their product illegally without paying them.

As long as it brings the release date of Splatoon 3 closer then fine by me lol. But as of now, pirating games is still illegal and a dick move imo

To shut the piracy wingnuts up.

If you own a copy of the game for console then you have a legal right to use an emulator to play it on your computer.

If you never bought the game and download ROMS for it then it is indeed piracy.

All that put aside I’m putting my vote for PS3 PS4 and Nintendo Switch on the board.

Not a huge fan of Xbox. For how expensive it is and game pricing I’ll just use my gaming PC & Steam. Then I don’t have to deal with the wonky Xbox controller, I can use whatever controller I want.

As a person who grew up on Sega Genesis NES and small form factor controllers I prefer the Sony PS3 controller for use on my gaming PC.

If I had to select just one console to crown as the best console out there I’d vote Ps4


That's a different story. I could see why buying the game on console and playing it with an emulator isn't wrong tbh.
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