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Delta Airlines tells Employees to not join Union

Postby Kowani » Sat May 11, 2019 6:18 pm

In the extensive run to make companies even more hellish to work at, Delta has apparently been fighting against workers unionizing for over a year now, and it’s just coming to light. You know, after the tax breaks that gave them even more money than before, just gotta wring out every possible cent for those shareholders.

For you people who don’t want to read the whole thing, a tl;dr.
Delta has been systematically trying to deincentivize its workers from unionization through the usage of propaganda.



I’m not particularly surprised, what with unions being a constant thorn in the side of big business. But seriously, video games? Baseball seats? It’s an insult to people’s intelligence.
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Postby Great Winminster » Sat May 11, 2019 6:48 pm

Having seen the anti-union posters (whose authenticity has neither been confirmed nor debunked by the airline) I must say that this is one of the most childish propagandistic efforts I have had the misfortune to see.
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Postby Duhon » Sat May 11, 2019 7:04 pm

Delta being Delta yet again. But seriously, though, what does the corporate leadership think of Delta employees? Fucking single manchildren?

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Postby Telconi » Sat May 11, 2019 8:12 pm

Duhon wrote:Delta being Delta yet again. But seriously, though, what does the corporate leadership think of Delta employees? Fucking single manchildren?


Only single manchildren like video games and baseball games?
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Postby Duhon » Sat May 11, 2019 8:27 pm

Telconi wrote:
Duhon wrote:Delta being Delta yet again. But seriously, though, what does the corporate leadership think of Delta employees? Fucking single manchildren?


Only single manchildren like video games and baseball games?


... whoosh.

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Postby The Emerald Legion » Sat May 11, 2019 8:29 pm

I mean, the sort of people who Unions are liable to scoop up tend to be childish and dim as a general rule. Unions thrive on paranoia against the ones who employ them. While they may have served a purpose at one point, they have long since grown corrupt.
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Postby Telconi » Sat May 11, 2019 8:30 pm

Duhon wrote:
Telconi wrote:
Only single manchildren like video games and baseball games?


... whoosh.


Only substance makes a whoosh, as posts without substance have no mass.
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Postby Duhon » Sat May 11, 2019 8:34 pm

The Emerald Legion wrote:I mean, the sort of people who Unions are liable to scoop up tend to be childish and dim as a general rule. Unions thrive on paranoia against the ones who employ them. While they may have served a purpose at one point, they have long since grown corrupt.


In other words, political parties (which is but one form of collective organizing) is sacrosanct, corporations another, but unions... extreme prejudice ain't strong enough?

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Postby Des-Bal » Sun May 12, 2019 12:05 am

They need a new propagandist, an airline cannot talk to you about video game systems without appearing to belittle it's audience. Lean on the cost of union dues and maybe throw in a dash of you should value individualism.
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Postby Purpelia » Sun May 12, 2019 1:47 am

America is the only country in the western world that sees unions as anything but a force of collective good. And people ask me why I keep saying "civilized world and america" when talking about the west.
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Postby Sanctum and Ultima » Sun May 12, 2019 1:54 am

Let's boycott Delta!
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Postby Page » Sun May 12, 2019 2:15 am

Just the fact that the bosses went out of their way to convince employees not to join the union is itself a good indicator that the employees should join the union.
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Postby Katganistan » Sun May 12, 2019 4:34 am

Purpelia wrote:America is the only country in the western world that sees unions as anything but a force of collective good. And people ask me why I keep saying "civilized world and america" when talking about the west.


Because a very loud, stupid, and corrupt portion of America elects, listens to, and holds up as their God a sex-predatory, xenophobic, anti-Semitic con man who loaded his cabinet with utterly unqualified people whose job is to destroy the departments they were given control of so his rich billionaire buddies don't have to deal with pesky regulations that protect workers, consumers, and citizens, thinks it's appropriate to use Tweets to harass anyone he doesn't like, threaten people with punishments for crimes they did not commit, obstruct investigations into his own shenanigans, throws his own corrupt cronies under the bus the moment he realizes what they did for him will come back to bite him on the ass, lie on a daily basis, misuse his position to make himself richer, and yes, bash unions -- as they would have eaten him for breakfast for his habit of employing and underpaying undocumented workers and just plain not paying workers at all. He hates Unions, as do all his big-business ass-kissing buddies.

But hey. He's draining the swamp, right? Building white elephants like a wall when the undocumented in this country come in by airplane and boat legally and overstay visas. Shutting down the government in a two-year old's tantrum and expecting the Coast Guard and others to continue working without pay, then having his idiot shills ask why they've gone on public assistance instead of taking out loans with predatory rates to get by when they don't know how long the presidential shitfit will last.

And that last was PARTICULARLY stupid, because the Coast Guard is first defense against drug runners who SAIL IT into the country, and rescuing dimwits who think using a boat is the same as driving a car.

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Postby Katganistan » Sun May 12, 2019 4:34 am

Page wrote:Just the fact that the bosses went out of their way to convince employees not to join the union is itself a good indicator that the employees should join the union.

Yup.

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Postby Kannap » Sun May 12, 2019 6:15 am

Delta's been a shitty company for many years now, shame to see there's nothing new.
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Postby Petrolheadia » Sun May 12, 2019 6:23 am

Purpelia wrote:America is the only country in the western world that sees unions as anything but a force of collective good. And people ask me why I keep saying "civilized world and america" when talking about the west.

Yeah, because they worked so well in places like 1970s UK.
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Postby Petrolheadia » Sun May 12, 2019 6:27 am

If I were to be in an union, I'd consider three things:

- Does the union really need my money?
- Am I going to get more money than I'm paying?
- Is the union making unreasonable demands that might actually damage the company's finances to the point of my job being endangered?

If it would be "yes, yes, no", then I'd join. Otherwise they may seek someone else's cash.
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Postby -Ocelot- » Sun May 12, 2019 8:43 am

Purpelia wrote:America is the only country in the western world that sees unions as anything but a force of collective good. And people ask me why I keep saying "civilized world and america" when talking about the west.


Not just the US, unfortunately. Corporations have been seizing more and more rights from the people worldwide. Unions can't exist under the ideal form of our capitalist system and will have to be eliminated eventually.
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Postby Telconi » Sun May 12, 2019 8:50 am

Purpelia wrote:America is the only country in the western world that sees unions as anything but a force of collective good. And people ask me why I keep saying "civilized world and america" when talking about the west.


Unions aren't a magical hive mind.
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Postby The Emerald Legion » Sun May 12, 2019 8:53 am

Duhon wrote:
The Emerald Legion wrote:I mean, the sort of people who Unions are liable to scoop up tend to be childish and dim as a general rule. Unions thrive on paranoia against the ones who employ them. While they may have served a purpose at one point, they have long since grown corrupt.


In other words, political parties (which is but one form of collective organizing) is sacrosanct, corporations another, but unions... extreme prejudice ain't strong enough?


Honestly, I think we should get rid of political parties as well. While Unions can be helpful at times in curbing corporate excess, they tend to have excesses of their own wherein the employee is over-valued. Under Value or Over Value are BOTH destructive to the health of an organization. Not to mention the fact that Unions until recently tend to bankroll democratic political campaigns with money obtained from Dues, that Democrats have attempted to make mandatory from all workers.
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Postby Thermodolia » Sun May 12, 2019 9:03 am

You’re surprised by this? Corporations have never liked unions. The idea that a Corporation does is just stupid
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Postby Thermodolia » Sun May 12, 2019 9:06 am

Kannap wrote:Delta's been a shitty company for many years now, shame to see there's nothing new.

Their competition isn’t much better. Southwest is just a flying bus. United is shit to fly, and American is meh.
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Postby Ethel mermania » Sun May 12, 2019 9:08 am

If that is the best the airline can do, it makes the union recruiter's job much easier.
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