Then it might be in my interest to support this mandatory environmentalism thing
All of my main hideouts will be in threat
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by Infected Mushroom » Mon May 13, 2019 9:48 pm
by Kowani » Mon May 13, 2019 9:51 pm
by Infected Mushroom » Mon May 13, 2019 10:13 pm
by Kowani » Mon May 13, 2019 10:16 pm
by Ifreann » Tue May 14, 2019 2:13 am
by Infected Mushroom » Tue May 14, 2019 3:42 am
by Ifreann » Tue May 14, 2019 4:01 am
Renounce technology?
by Novus America » Tue May 14, 2019 4:43 am
Infected Mushroom wrote:Ifreann wrote:That climate change isn't happening because too few people are working to stop it. Therefore forcing lots of people to work won't stop climate change.
So how do you stop this thing?
Renounce technology?
I'm not going to get behind that because I need my video games and shows.
by Ifreann » Tue May 14, 2019 4:51 am
Novus America wrote:Infected Mushroom wrote:
So how do you stop this thing?
Renounce technology?
I'm not going to get behind that because I need my video games and shows.
Nuclear power is how you stop it.
But we would rather die of pollution than use the cleanest, safest form of power.
We deserve it TBH.
Thanks Greenpeace for destroying the environment.
My only consolation is I will see the anti nuclear environmentalists in Hell.
by Chestaan » Tue May 14, 2019 8:54 am
by Novus America » Tue May 14, 2019 8:58 am
Ifreann wrote:Novus America wrote:
Nuclear power is how you stop it.
But we would rather die of pollution than use the cleanest, safest form of power.
We deserve it TBH.
Thanks Greenpeace for destroying the environment.
My only consolation is I will see the anti nuclear environmentalists in Hell.
Then you pull the mask off the anti-nuclear environmentalists and find that they're actually the fossil fuel industry!
by Galloism » Tue May 14, 2019 8:58 am
Chestaan wrote:The environment isn't going to be fixed by getting some young people to pick up litter. Real sysytematic change needs to take place and measures such as this are a side show to make people feel better about themselves.
by Thermodolia » Tue May 14, 2019 9:09 am
Krasny-Volny wrote:As someone who works in the environmental sector:
Most conservation corps are incredibly poorly managed. They're also not cost effective and survive only because the federal and state governments (largely through the AmeriCorps umbrella) give them massive subsidies. The only way they can compete with private contractors is because they leverage the subsidies and pay all their underqualified youth workers minimim wage or less.
Now you want to implement the conservation corps model on a nationwide scale, and magnify these problems a hundredfold? No thanks. The CCC era is long gone and it's impossible in this day and age to ever bring that back.
by The Emerald Legion » Tue May 14, 2019 9:15 am
Thermodolia wrote:Krasny-Volny wrote:As someone who works in the environmental sector:
Most conservation corps are incredibly poorly managed. They're also not cost effective and survive only because the federal and state governments (largely through the AmeriCorps umbrella) give them massive subsidies. The only way they can compete with private contractors is because they leverage the subsidies and pay all their underqualified youth workers minimim wage or less.
Now you want to implement the conservation corps model on a nationwide scale, and magnify these problems a hundredfold? No thanks. The CCC era is long gone and it's impossible in this day and age to ever bring that back.
Ban the private sector environmental groups/contractors, then massively fund the new CCC, PHC, and the IRC (Infrastructure Rejuvenation Corps)
by Thermodolia » Tue May 14, 2019 9:17 am
Chestaan wrote:The environment isn't going to be fixed by getting some young people to pick up litter. Real sysytematic change needs to take place and measures such as this are a side show to make people feel better about themselves.
by Novus America » Tue May 14, 2019 9:20 am
by Thermodolia » Tue May 14, 2019 9:20 am
by The Emerald Legion » Tue May 14, 2019 9:22 am
by Novus America » Tue May 14, 2019 9:23 am
by Thermodolia » Tue May 14, 2019 9:25 am
by Thermodolia » Tue May 14, 2019 9:26 am
Novus America wrote:Thermodolia wrote:Global warming/climate change is a national security threat. So no. If anything the measures to combat it need to be more radical
The radical anti nuclear fanaticism in the self proclaimed “environmental” is an environmental and national security threat.
Unfortunately environmentalism as currently formed is perhaps the biggest threat to the environment.
by The Emerald Legion » Tue May 14, 2019 9:32 am
Thermodolia wrote:The Emerald Legion wrote:
No it's not. Our lack of national holdings outside of this planet is a national security threat.
Which is pretty much never going to happen in time. So we need to focus on what we can do and what we can make a difference in instead of something that might not work or something that will work but we’ll all be dead before it does
by Unstoppable Empire of Doom » Tue May 14, 2019 9:50 am
by Thermodolia » Tue May 14, 2019 9:53 am
Unstoppable Empire of Doom wrote:Reinstate the draft. Everyone should go in for a year to be taught how to do first aid, exercise, safely handle firearms (how to check their chambers, unload them, lock them up, etcetera. Not shoot them accurately unless you want to learn it). How to drill, march, and work as a team. What it actually means to be tired, hungry, and cold. This could easily include environmental work.
by Bears Armed » Tue May 14, 2019 10:25 am
Thermodolia wrote:Chestaan wrote:The environment isn't going to be fixed by getting some young people to pick up litter. Real sysytematic change needs to take place and measures such as this are a side show to make people feel better about themselves.
Picking up litter is just a very small thing. One that is actually quite important, especially if we deploy the new CCC into India and China
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