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Postby Kowani » Wed May 15, 2019 1:20 pm

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Postby Cappuccina » Wed May 15, 2019 2:06 pm

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Two more things that don't actually happen in the really real world.

I call bullshit. These are indeed things I have at one point actually done myself, and having been this kind of hateful person, these are indeed real fucking things.


Also, try being mixed and told by black people that you're "privileged" and thus can't speak on black issues because you're "raised in whiteness". :rofl:

God, I fucking hate intersectionality. Yay, victimhood carousel!!!!!
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Postby Scomagia » Wed May 15, 2019 2:27 pm

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West Leas Oros 2 wrote:I call bullshit. These are indeed things I have at one point actually done myself, and having been this kind of hateful person, these are indeed real fucking things.


Also, try being mixed and told by black people that you're "privileged" and thus can't speak on black issues because you're "raised in whiteness". :rofl:

God, I fucking hate intersectionality. Yay, victimhood carousel!!!!!

Really? Those people who said that should go fuck themselves. They're racists, full stop.

Yep, it's a blast. I love hearing about how my "whiteness" (whatever the fuck "white" even means) makes me more privileged than black people...despite the fact that my socio-economic status growing up was roughly equal with most black people's. That's not saying anything about the many personal disadvantages I've faced that, frankly, a fair amount of black people haven't. But I'm still privileged...somehow.
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Postby Cappuccina » Wed May 15, 2019 2:34 pm

Scomagia wrote:
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Also, try being mixed and told by black people that you're "privileged" and thus can't speak on black issues because you're "raised in whiteness". :rofl:

God, I fucking hate intersectionality. Yay, victimhood carousel!!!!!

Really? Those people who said that should go fuck themselves. They're racists, full stop.

Yep, it's a blast. I love hearing about how my "whiteness" (whatever the fuck "white" even means) makes me more privileged than black people...despite the fact that my socio-economic status growing up was roughly equal with most black people's. That's not saying anything about the many personal disadvantages I've faced that, frankly, a fair amount of black people haven't. But I'm still privileged...somehow.

Oh yes, you'd be surprised how racist black people really are!

Yup, even if you're raised in a poor family all that matters is that you happen to have European oppressor genes!!! We must be oppressing with our poverty!!! :roll:
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Postby Vassenor » Wed May 15, 2019 2:39 pm

Cappuccina wrote:
Scomagia wrote:Really? Those people who said that should go fuck themselves. They're racists, full stop.

Yep, it's a blast. I love hearing about how my "whiteness" (whatever the fuck "white" even means) makes me more privileged than black people...despite the fact that my socio-economic status growing up was roughly equal with most black people's. That's not saying anything about the many personal disadvantages I've faced that, frankly, a fair amount of black people haven't. But I'm still privileged...somehow.

Oh yes, you'd be surprised how racist black people really are!

Yup, even if you're raised in a poor family all that matters is that you happen to have European oppressor genes!!! We must be oppressing with our poverty!!! :roll:


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Postby Kowani » Wed May 15, 2019 2:40 pm

Scomagia wrote:
Cappuccina wrote:
Also, try being mixed and told by black people that you're "privileged" and thus can't speak on black issues because you're "raised in whiteness". :rofl:

God, I fucking hate intersectionality. Yay, victimhood carousel!!!!!

Really? Those people who said that should go fuck themselves. They're racists, full stop.

Yep, it's a blast. I love hearing about how my "whiteness" (whatever the fuck "white" even means) makes me more privileged than black people...despite the fact that my socio-economic status growing up was roughly equal with most black people's. That's not saying anything about the many personal disadvantages I've faced that, frankly, a fair amount of black people haven't. But I'm still privileged...somehow.

Except that’s not what people mean when they say white privilege.
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Postby Auristania » Wed May 15, 2019 2:42 pm

SJW cannot say the Privilege has anything to do with Money. That would be Classist. Intersectionality forbids Classism.

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Postby The Emerald Legion » Wed May 15, 2019 2:43 pm

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Not really. Because there is no disadvantage that holds true for all black people.

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Just because you can link to things, doesn't make those things true. It just means someone, or in this case, many someones believe the thing to be true and made a web page about it.
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Postby Vassenor » Wed May 15, 2019 2:45 pm

Auristania wrote:SJW cannot say the Privilege has anything to do with Money. That would be Classist. Intersectionality forbids Classism.


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Postby Kowani » Wed May 15, 2019 2:46 pm

The Emerald Legion wrote:
Kowani wrote:1
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Just because you can link to things, doesn't make those things true. It just means someone, or in this case, many someones believe the thing to be true and made a web page about it.
My apologies that the studies disagree with you.
However, considering I have actual evidence, and you do not…
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Postby Galloism » Wed May 15, 2019 2:47 pm

Kowani wrote:
Scomagia wrote:Really? Those people who said that should go fuck themselves. They're racists, full stop.

Yep, it's a blast. I love hearing about how my "whiteness" (whatever the fuck "white" even means) makes me more privileged than black people...despite the fact that my socio-economic status growing up was roughly equal with most black people's. That's not saying anything about the many personal disadvantages I've faced that, frankly, a fair amount of black people haven't. But I'm still privileged...somehow.

Except that’s not what people mean when they say white privilege.

Usually I see it used to say “shut the fuck up, your opinions don’t count”, but that’s probably not the same context as it’s used academically.
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Postby Cappuccina » Wed May 15, 2019 2:47 pm

Vassenor wrote:
Cappuccina wrote:Oh yes, you'd be surprised how racist black people really are!

Yup, even if you're raised in a poor family all that matters is that you happen to have European oppressor genes!!! We must be oppressing with our poverty!!! :roll:


Do you need a field to put that straw man in?

Oh come now, nobody's fooled by the implications of intersectional politics other than its adherents. Whites and people with white heritage are portrayed as the great Boogeyman, and cause of all social ills. Anything oppressive or contrary to the doctrine is viewed through the lense of "whiteness" and "patriarchy". Seems eerily similar to another ideology that has boogeymen and scapegoats for social faults.......
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Postby Kowani » Wed May 15, 2019 2:48 pm

Galloism wrote:
Kowani wrote:Except that’s not what people mean when they say white privilege.

Usually I see it used to say “shut the fuck up, your opinions don’t count”, but that’s probably not the same context as it’s used academically.

I am using the academic usage. I find the internet discourse around the culture wars to be unproductive.
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Postby Vassenor » Wed May 15, 2019 2:49 pm

Cappuccina wrote:
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Do you need a field to put that straw man in?

Oh come now, nobody's fooled by the implications of intersectional politics other than its adherents. Whites and people with white heritage are portrayed as the great Boogeyman, and cause of all social ills. Anything oppressive or contrary to the doctrine is viewed through the lense of "whiteness" and "patriarchy". Seems eerily similar to another ideology that has boogeymen and scapegoats for social faults.......


You know I'm still waiting for you to actually prove that is actually happening.
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Postby Scomagia » Wed May 15, 2019 2:49 pm

Kowani wrote:
Scomagia wrote:Really? Those people who said that should go fuck themselves. They're racists, full stop.

Yep, it's a blast. I love hearing about how my "whiteness" (whatever the fuck "white" even means) makes me more privileged than black people...despite the fact that my socio-economic status growing up was roughly equal with most black people's. That's not saying anything about the many personal disadvantages I've faced that, frankly, a fair amount of black people haven't. But I'm still privileged...somehow.

Except that’s not what people mean when they say white privilege.

Yes, it is. It means that because of my race, I am inherently advantaged. Accounting for other factors, I am decidedly disadvantaged relative to the majority of other Americans, black, white, or Asian. So, it's a bit old to hear about my so called privilege.
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Postby Scomagia » Wed May 15, 2019 2:50 pm

Vassenor wrote:
Cappuccina wrote:Oh come now, nobody's fooled by the implications of intersectional politics other than its adherents. Whites and people with white heritage are portrayed as the great Boogeyman, and cause of all social ills. Anything oppressive or contrary to the doctrine is viewed through the lense of "whiteness" and "patriarchy". Seems eerily similar to another ideology that has boogeymen and scapegoats for social faults.......


You know I'm still waiting for you to actually prove that is actually happening.

We're still waiting for you to actually express an opinion instead of relentlessly shitposting.
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Postby Scomagia » Wed May 15, 2019 2:51 pm

Galloism wrote:
Kowani wrote:Except that’s not what people mean when they say white privilege.

Usually I see it used to say “shut the fuck up, your opinions don’t count”, but that’s probably not the same context as it’s used academically.

It's often, but not always, used that way in academia, too.
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Postby Kowani » Wed May 15, 2019 2:52 pm

Scomagia wrote:
Kowani wrote:Except that’s not what people mean when they say white privilege.

Yes, it is. It means that because of my race, I am inherently advantaged. Accounting for other factors, I am decidedly disadvantaged relative to the majority of other Americans, black, white, or Asian. So, it's a bit old to hear about my so called privilege.

Technically, It is that the disadvantages you face are not because of the color of your skin. Now in certain cases this does not hold true. A white person in a majority black neighborhood is at a somewhat large risk of being discriminated against by their neighbors. But in most cases, that does not hold.
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Postby The Emerald Legion » Wed May 15, 2019 3:38 pm

Kowani wrote:
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Just because you can link to things, doesn't make those things true. It just means someone, or in this case, many someones believe the thing to be true and made a web page about it.
My apologies that the studies disagree with you.
However, considering I have actual evidence, and you do not…


Studies aren't actual evidence. Actual evidence is actual evidence. You can't draw clean water from a tainted well. And academia is a tainted well on sociological subjects.
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Postby Auristania » Wed May 15, 2019 3:39 pm

Vassenor wrote:
Auristania wrote:SJW cannot say the Privilege has anything to do with Money. That would be Classist. Intersectionality forbids Classism.


Can I get some Thousand Island to go with that word salad?

If you say Capitalism gives Political privilege and Economic, Social. Religious and Cultural privilege to the Rich then SJW will call you racist. SJW preach Intersectionality only Whites Jews and Peasants have Privilege. Rich Muslim Kings and Priests have Zero privilege. Kings and Priests are the victims according to Intersectionality doctrine.

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Postby Athonuna » Wed May 15, 2019 3:46 pm

Kowani wrote:
Scomagia wrote:Yes, it is. It means that because of my race, I am inherently advantaged. Accounting for other factors, I am decidedly disadvantaged relative to the majority of other Americans, black, white, or Asian. So, it's a bit old to hear about my so called privilege.

Technically, It is that the disadvantages you face are not because of the color of your skin. Now in certain cases this does not hold true. A white person in a majority black neighborhood is at a somewhat large risk of being discriminated against by their neighbors. But in most cases, that does not hold.

Not even in a world increasingly targeting white people for the stuff they do and focusing only on the minorities? They're doing to white people what the feminists are doing to boys: Demonizing them and trying to make them ashamed.
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Postby Spodehaven » Wed May 15, 2019 3:54 pm

White privilege always seemed to me like a tool to distract the liberal left from fighting for the working class as a whole and noticing left-wing politicians have taken an anti-worker swing as well. In the US anyways....
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Postby Kowani » Wed May 15, 2019 4:02 pm

The Emerald Legion wrote:
Kowani wrote: My apologies that the studies disagree with you.
However, considering I have actual evidence, and you do not…


Studies aren't actual evidence. Actual evidence is actual evidence. You can't draw clean water from a tainted well. And academia is a tainted well on sociological subjects.

…This is the most disingenuous bullshit I’ve heard all day.

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Kowani wrote:Technically, It is that the disadvantages you face are not because of the color of your skin. Now in certain cases this does not hold true. A white person in a majority black neighborhood is at a somewhat large risk of being discriminated against by their neighbors. But in most cases, that does not hold.

Not even in a world increasingly targeting white people for the stuff they do and focusing only on the minorities? They're doing to white people what the feminists are doing to boys: Demonizing them and trying to make them ashamed.

Surprisingly enough, in the material, white people tend to have most of the advantages-and they’re still less likely to be discriminated against than everyone else.
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Postby Scomagia » Wed May 15, 2019 5:21 pm

Kowani wrote:
Scomagia wrote:Yes, it is. It means that because of my race, I am inherently advantaged. Accounting for other factors, I am decidedly disadvantaged relative to the majority of other Americans, black, white, or Asian. So, it's a bit old to hear about my so called privilege.

Technically, It is that the disadvantages you face are not because of the color of your skin. Now in certain cases this does not hold true. A white person in a majority black neighborhood is at a somewhat large risk of being discriminated against by their neighbors. But in most cases, that does not hold.

Why is disadvantage based on racism weighted more heavily than, say, disadvantage based on being a child sex abuse victim?
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Postby Kowani » Wed May 15, 2019 5:58 pm

Scomagia wrote:
Kowani wrote:Technically, It is that the disadvantages you face are not because of the color of your skin. Now in certain cases this does not hold true. A white person in a majority black neighborhood is at a somewhat large risk of being discriminated against by their neighbors. But in most cases, that does not hold.

Why is disadvantage based on racism weighted more heavily than, say, disadvantage based on being a child sex abuse victim?

…Because the two evaluate completely different things? There are some progressives who will say that as a white male, you can never face discrimination. Those people are wrong.
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