Learning about white privilege is anti-white, studies prove

[Kustonia]

Pride in oneself is not inherently bad, no. I made no comment on superiority, that’s your word.

But it isn't pride in oneself. At all. It's pride in involuntary attributes that exist across a spectrum of people from saintlike to positively Luciferian.

Racial pride leads to claims of racial supremacy. If the other races are equal to yours, what have you got to be proud about?

Races are not equal, they're different. You can't make races equal anymore than you can make amphibians into mammals - it just doesn't work. You will always have the forces of nature against you if you continue to peddle the egalitarian myth.

[Kowani]

But it isn't pride in oneself. At all. It's pride in involuntary attributes that exist across a spectrum of people from saintlike to positively Luciferian.

Racial pride leads to claims of racial supremacy. If the other races are equal to yours, what have you got to be proud about?

Races are not equal, they're different. You can't make races equal anymore than you can make amphibians into mammals - it just doesn't work. You will always have the forces of nature against you if you continue to peddle the egalitarian myth.

I feel like your definition of equal is not the actual one.

[Badb Catha]

But it isn't pride in oneself. At all. It's pride in involuntary attributes that exist across a spectrum of people from saintlike to positively Luciferian.

Racial pride leads to claims of racial supremacy. If the other races are equal to yours, what have you got to be proud about?

Races are not equal, they're different. You can't make races equal anymore than you can make amphibians into mammals - it just doesn't work. You will always have the forces of nature against you if you continue to peddle the egalitarian myth.

"Equal" is not the antonym of "different" and vice-versa.

[Diarcesia]

But it isn't pride in oneself. At all. It's pride in involuntary attributes that exist across a spectrum of people from saintlike to positively Luciferian.

Racial pride leads to claims of racial supremacy. If the other races are equal to yours, what have you got to be proud about?

Races are not equal, they're different. You can't make races equal anymore than you can make amphibians into mammals - it just doesn't work. You will always have the forces of nature against you if you continue to peddle the egalitarian myth.

They are equal in the eyes of the law. It's just that some proud folks want a de jure favored status.

[Kustonia]

...and because Western countries were founded by White people.

I probably got the grammar wrong here. To rephrase... Disclaimer: "Western" is not supposed to be exclusive to "white". They get associated because whites are a majority in those countries. And yes, because they founded the political entities in it.

So then tell me, why can't whites have countries of their own? If they founded them, it's theirs. This is logical.

[Gormwood]

I probably got the grammar wrong here. To rephrase... Disclaimer: "Western" is not supposed to be exclusive to "white". They get associated because whites are a majority in those countries. And yes, because they founded the political entities in it.

So then tell me, why can't whites have countries of their own? If they founded them, it's theirs. This is logical.

That's how Europe started.

[Kustonia]

Races are not equal, they're different. You can't make races equal anymore than you can make amphibians into mammals - it just doesn't work. You will always have the forces of nature against you if you continue to peddle the egalitarian myth.

They are equal in the eyes of the law. It's just that some proud folks want a de jure favored status.

Not really. I think you're confusing white supremacy and white nationalism.

[Galloism]

I would question whether pride is ever really that beneficial honestly, but if that counts as a refutation....

Well, the Black Panthers say “hi”.

And the BPP would have never existed if certain blacks didn't feel oppressed by Jim Crow segregation enough to feel a need to protect themselves from it.

It’s worth note that the Civil Rights Act was busily breaking the back of Jim Crow before the BPP was ever founded. It had been passed and upheld by SCOTUS in 1964, while the BPP was founded in 1966.

I’m sure those engaging in the crusades felt similarly aggrieved by the whole Jerusalem situation.

Anyway, it’s largely irrelevant. If “bad shit happened because of religious pride” is an argument against religious pride, well we can say that for almost any kind of pride ever.

Except gay pride. I think.

[Costa Fierro]

I probably got the grammar wrong here. To rephrase... Disclaimer: "Western" is not supposed to be exclusive to "white". They get associated because whites are a majority in those countries. And yes, because they founded the political entities in it.

So then tell me, why can't whites have countries of their own? If they founded them, it's theirs. This is logical.

It would only apply to nation states, not to colonial ones.

[Scomagia]

But it isn't pride in oneself. At all. It's pride in involuntary attributes that exist across a spectrum of people from saintlike to positively Luciferian.

Racial pride leads to claims of racial supremacy. If the other races are equal to yours, what have you got to be proud about?

Races are not equal, they're different. You can't make races equal anymore than you can make amphibians into mammals - it just doesn't work. You will always have the forces of nature against you if you continue to peddle the egalitarian myth.

What is a "race"? What properties define inclusion into specific "racial" categories?

[Diarcesia]

I probably got the grammar wrong here. To rephrase... Disclaimer: "Western" is not supposed to be exclusive to "white". They get associated because whites are a majority in those countries. And yes, because they founded the political entities in it.

So then tell me, why can't whites have countries of their own? If they founded them, it's theirs. This is logical.

In Europe? It's hard to argue against it.

Elsewhere? uhm... that's a tricky topic to discuss with all the non-whites that came before them and what happened when they interacted.

They are equal in the eyes of the law. It's just that some proud folks want a de jure favored status.

Not really. I think you're confusing white supremacy and white nationalism.

There are nationalists who are also supremacists, how do you differentiate from those versus those who are nationalist only aka proud of their identity?

Personally I strongly disagree with those who believe that non-whites can't assimilate to white culture and must be barred.

[New haven america]

But it isn't pride in oneself. At all. It's pride in involuntary attributes that exist across a spectrum of people from saintlike to positively Luciferian.

Racial pride leads to claims of racial supremacy. If the other races are equal to yours, what have you got to be proud about?

Races are not equal, they're different. You can't make races equal anymore than you can make amphibians into mammals - it just doesn't work. You will always have the forces of nature against you if you continue to peddle the egalitarian myth.

Yes they are.

[Gormwood]

And the BPP would have never existed if certain blacks didn't feel oppressed by Jim Crow segregation enough to feel a need to protect themselves from it.

It’s worth note that the Civil Rights Act was busily breaking the back of Jim Crow before the BPP was ever founded. It had been passed and upheld by SCOTUS in 1964, while the BPP was founded in 1966.

I’m sure those engaging in the crusades felt similarly aggrieved by the whole Jerusalem situation.

Anyway, it’s largely irrelevant. If “bad shit happened because of religious pride” is an argument against religious pride, well we can say that for almost any kind of pride ever.

Except gay pride. I think.

Which itself was a rebuttal to "pride in anything but religion is bad," which included gay pride somehow.

[Costa Fierro]

Races are not equal, they're different.

Race isn't a thing. Ethnicity is.

[Liberal Thermidorian Reaction]

But it isn't pride in oneself. At all. It's pride in involuntary attributes that exist across a spectrum of people from saintlike to positively Luciferian.

Racial pride leads to claims of racial supremacy. If the other races are equal to yours, what have you got to be proud about?

Races are not equal, they're different. You can't make races equal anymore than you can make amphibians into mammals - it just doesn't work. You will always have the forces of nature against you if you continue to peddle the egalitarian myth.

Just because ethnic groups are different does not mean they're not equal, or that some should be discriminated against.

[Galloism]

It’s worth note that the Civil Rights Act was busily breaking the back of Jim Crow before the BPP was ever founded. It had been passed and upheld by SCOTUS in 1964, while the BPP was founded in 1966.

I’m sure those engaging in the crusades felt similarly aggrieved by the whole Jerusalem situation.

Anyway, it’s largely irrelevant. If “bad shit happened because of religious pride” is an argument against religious pride, well we can say that for almost any kind of pride ever.

Except gay pride. I think.

Which itself was a rebuttal to "pride in anything but religion is bad," which included gay pride somehow.

No, he said pride in something involuntary doesn’t make any sense. Religion is a voluntary thing.

Unless you think religion is genetic.

[Gormwood]

Which itself was a rebuttal to "pride in anything but religion is bad," which included gay pride somehow.

No, he said pride in something involuntary doesn’t make any sense. Religion is a voluntary thing.

Unless you think religion is genetic.

But denigrating and dehumanizing others based on something involuntary is perfectly logical?

[Galloism]

No, he said pride in something involuntary doesn’t make any sense. Religion is a voluntary thing.

Unless you think religion is genetic.

But denigrating and dehumanizing others based on something involuntary is perfectly logical?

I’m sure you can quote Scomagia saying that.

[Kustonia]

Races are not equal, they're different. You can't make races equal anymore than you can make amphibians into mammals - it just doesn't work. You will always have the forces of nature against you if you continue to peddle the egalitarian myth.

What is a "race"? What properties define inclusion into specific "racial" categories?

A "race" is a specific, genotypic group of Homo sapien.

IQ differences, physical traits, quirks, and abilities, genetic diseases and other health concerns all play a part in determining someone's race.

[New haven america]

What is a "race"? What properties define inclusion into specific "racial" categories?

A "race" is a specific, genotypic group of Homo sapien.

IQ differences, physical traits, quirks, and abilities, genetic diseases and other health concerns all play a part in determining someone's race.

No.

False on all accounts in fact.

[Gormwood]

But denigrating and dehumanizing others based on something involuntary is perfectly logical?

I’m sure you can quote Scomagia saying that.

I can't but with the chain going...

Except gay pride. I think.

No, he said pride in something involuntary doesn’t make any sense. Religion is a voluntary thing.

Unless you think religion is genetic.

Sounds like you're calling homosexuality a choice.

[Kustonia]

Races are not equal, they're different. You can't make races equal anymore than you can make amphibians into mammals - it just doesn't work. You will always have the forces of nature against you if you continue to peddle the egalitarian myth.

Just because ethnic groups are different does not mean they're not equal, or that some should be discriminated against.

Equal means "the same". You can't be same-different. Discrimination is a natural human process. All humans discriminate, and not always on race.

[Galloism]

I’m sure you can quote Scomagia saying that.

I can't but with the chain going...

Except gay pride. I think.

No, he said pride in something involuntary doesn’t make any sense. Religion is a voluntary thing.

Unless you think religion is genetic.

Sounds like you're calling homosexuality a choice.

You really should read the whole post.

And the BPP would have never existed if certain blacks didn't feel oppressed by Jim Crow segregation enough to feel a need to protect themselves from it.

It’s worth note that the Civil Rights Act was busily breaking the back of Jim Crow before the BPP was ever founded. It had been passed and upheld by SCOTUS in 1964, while the BPP was founded in 1966.

I’m sure those engaging in the crusades felt similarly aggrieved by the whole Jerusalem situation.

Anyway, it’s largely irrelevant. If “bad shit happened because of religious pride” is an argument against religious pride, well we can say that for almost any kind of pride ever.

Except gay pride. I think.

Read the whole post next time. Jeez, that was a lame attempt at a gotcha. This is a forum Gauth, people can read your blatant strawmen and see the original source.

[Liberal Thermidorian Reaction]

Just because ethnic groups are different does not mean they're not equal, or that some should be discriminated against.

Equal means "the same". You can't be same-different. Discrimination is a natural human process. All humans discriminate, and not always on race.

Two people can have different qualities but deserve equal status in society. The same can apply to various ethnic groups.

[Scomagia]

What is a "race"? What properties define inclusion into specific "racial" categories?

A "race" is a specific, genotypic group of Homo sapien.

IQ differences, physical traits, quirks, and abilities, genetic diseases and other health concerns all play a part in determining someone's race.

What race is someone with equal parts African, European, Asian, and Native American genotypes?