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Postby Scomagia » Fri May 10, 2019 1:24 pm

Caracasus wrote:Any analysis of privelage that doesn't take into account material circumstances and class is doomed to tie itself up in weird knots like this. Hardly surprising.

I'm pretty sure even that would be a grossly inappropriate simplification of an individual. People are much more than their race and class.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Fri May 10, 2019 1:24 pm

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Hmmm? Maybe to the Op and the MRA types. Most would give you a :blink: if you go on about it.


If you don't believe there are people who seek to be offended and fixate on "social justice" concepts to be trendy you're not paying attention.

:blink:

A pejorative born out of that gamergate nonsense is not worthy of getting all upset over.

People have all had issues big or small since.....forever.
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Postby LiberNovusAmericae » Fri May 10, 2019 1:27 pm

Liriena wrote:
LiberNovusAmericae wrote:Not everyone who hates SJWism is a white supremacist.

"SJWism" is not a thing.

Seeing people requiring trigger warnings makes me beg to differ.

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Postby The Black Forrest » Fri May 10, 2019 1:29 pm

LiberNovusAmericae wrote:
Liriena wrote:"SJWism" is not a thing.

Seeing people requiring trigger warnings makes me beg to differ.


That's true. SJW is a trigger for some.
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Postby LiberNovusAmericae » Fri May 10, 2019 1:30 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:
LiberNovusAmericae wrote:Seeing people requiring trigger warnings makes me beg to differ.


That's true. SJW is a trigger for some.

:roll: Not what I meant.

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Postby Des-Bal » Fri May 10, 2019 1:33 pm

The Black Forrest wrote: :blink:

A pejorative born out of that gamergate nonsense is not worthy of getting all upset over.

People have all had issues big or small since.....forever.


Yes and those who obsess over small issues, invent issues, or self-aggrandize by demonstrating their knowledge of issues are disparaged as SJWs.
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Postby Liriena » Fri May 10, 2019 1:37 pm

Kustonia wrote:
Liriena wrote:White people are not entitled to racial homogeneity nor do we need racial homogeneity to "preserve" our national identities. Skin tone is not the natural or god-given essence of a nationality.

Also, Solzhenitsyn was a thot and a nasty hoe.


White people have had racial homogeneity, and race is the one and only thing that can preserve European culture. Other races of people do not care about Whites and their culture, they have their own to preserve. Also, why should non-whites care? They didn't build White civilization, they built their own civilizations, and they can return to them any time they'd like. Whites do not have that privilege.

There's no such thing as "white civilization". There is a multiplicity of cultures and civilizations which are currently majority white as per the contemporary definition of that word. But those cultures and civilizations are just as connected to each other as they are to many majority non-white ones, and owe as much of their collected heritage to them as they do to their majority white peers. Some delusional concern with the purity of skin tone didn't determine the construction of the many European cultures, nor did some sort of unified European culture. The idea that all of Europe and all white people share a singular heritage is historical illiteracy in the service of a retroactive appropriation of other people's heritage by mediocre demagogues and the vulnerable and alienated people that they recruit.

Lithuanian culture and Catalan culture have little in common, and both have had as much influence on my own heritage as aboriginal and Japanese culture. My pale skin doesn't make me the heir of the medieval Ukranians or the Pictish tribes. Nor does it oblige me to try to stupidly ensure some sort of cultural "purity" for "white" cultures thousands of miles away whose language I don't speak.
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Postby Liriena » Fri May 10, 2019 1:38 pm

LiberNovusAmericae wrote:
Liriena wrote:"SJWism" is not a thing.

Seeing people requiring trigger warnings makes me beg to differ.

oof
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Postby LiberNovusAmericae » Fri May 10, 2019 1:40 pm

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LiberNovusAmericae wrote:Seeing people requiring trigger warnings makes me beg to differ.

oof

What? Are you going to falsely call out a "self-own" by twisting my words?

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Postby The Black Forrest » Fri May 10, 2019 1:43 pm

Des-Bal wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote: :blink:

A pejorative born out of that gamergate nonsense is not worthy of getting all upset over.

People have all had issues big or small since.....forever.


Yes and those who obsess over small issues, invent issues, or self-aggrandize by demonstrating their knowledge of issues are disparaged as SJWs.


And.....why do their comments bug you so much?

Sometimes no response is the best response.

As with gamergate; they couldn't let it go. I tried that gals game and it sucked. Left to it's own merit; it would have died an unknown death. Gamergate brought it a great deal of attention to it and the main players (I think there were three?).

Anyway; If you aren't being hurt by their actions; why worry about it?
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Postby Skarten » Fri May 10, 2019 1:43 pm

Liriena wrote:
Kustonia wrote:"In recent times it has been fashionable to talk of the levelling of nations, of the disappearance of different races in the melting pot of contemporary civilization. I do not agree with this opinion, but its discussion remains another question. Here it is merely fitting to say that the disappearance of nations would have impoverished us no less than if all men had become alike, with one personality and one face. Nations are the wealth of mankind, its collective personalities; the very least of them wears its own special colours and bears within itself a special facet of the Divine intention."

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White people are not entitled to racial homogeneity nor do we need racial homogeneity to "preserve" our national identities. Skin tone is not the natural or god-given essence of a nationality.

Also, Solzhenitsyn was a thot and a nasty hoe.


Ah, yes, here we see yet another "Europeans don't deserve to exist". Quickly followed by an "Just because i'm saying that white people don't need to exist i'm not saying that europeans shouldn't need to exist."
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Postby New haven america » Fri May 10, 2019 1:44 pm

LiberNovusAmericae wrote:
Liriena wrote:oof

What? Are you going to falsely call out a "self-own" by twisting my words?

You are aware that trigger warnings and safe spaces are an actual thing in psychology to help people with PTSD and other stress disorders to avoid a possible trigger to that disorder ahead of time as well as an area where the can deal with said trigger without hurting themselves or others?
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Postby New haven america » Fri May 10, 2019 1:45 pm

Skarten wrote:
Liriena wrote:White people are not entitled to racial homogeneity nor do we need racial homogeneity to "preserve" our national identities. Skin tone is not the natural or god-given essence of a nationality.

Also, Solzhenitsyn was a thot and a nasty hoe.


Ah, yes, here we see yet another "Europeans don't deserve to exist". Quickly followed by an "Just because i'm saying that white people don't need to exist i'm not saying that europeans shouldn't need to exist."

It'll probably floor you to find out that Liri's white.
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Postby Ertae » Fri May 10, 2019 1:46 pm

I wouldn't consider a single study of less than 1,000 people the be-all end-all of this topic that defeats hundreds of years of racist institutions.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Fri May 10, 2019 1:50 pm

Ertae wrote:I wouldn't consider a single study of less than 1,000 people the be-all end-all of this topic that defeats hundreds of years of racist institutions.


I would never trust a study done by university named after a toothpaste ;)

Well? The op seems to be triggered by things like this.

I did a minor check on the gal who did it and she seems "normal" as in not drawn by a cause....

It's interesting though. It would be more interesting if the study was done in multiple places and the results compared.
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Postby Scomagia » Fri May 10, 2019 1:50 pm

New haven america wrote:
LiberNovusAmericae wrote:What? Are you going to falsely call out a "self-own" by twisting my words?

You are aware that trigger warnings and safe spaces are an actual thing in psychology to help people with PTSD and other stress disorders to avoid a possible trigger to that disorder ahead of time as well as an area where the can deal with said trigger without hurting themselves or others?

Trigger warnings are psychologically harmful, not helpful. They encourage avoidance of "triggers", the exact opposite of effective treatments. You have to be exposed to triggers in order to desensitized to them. Warning people about "triggers" is giving them a big out to avoid the trigger altogether. Not helpful.
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Postby Kowani » Fri May 10, 2019 1:51 pm

New haven america wrote:
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Ah, yes, here we see yet another "Europeans don't deserve to exist". Quickly followed by an "Just because i'm saying that white people don't need to exist i'm not saying that europeans shouldn't need to exist."

It'll probably floor you to find out that Liri's white.

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Postby Skarten » Fri May 10, 2019 1:52 pm

New haven america wrote:
Skarten wrote:
Ah, yes, here we see yet another "Europeans don't deserve to exist". Quickly followed by an "Just because i'm saying that white people don't need to exist i'm not saying that europeans shouldn't need to exist."

It'll probably floor you to find out that Liri's white.

Is that supposed to change anything?

Despise what someone might tell you, no, european culture will not continue if white people just disappear from the earth.

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Postby Skarten » Fri May 10, 2019 1:53 pm

Kowani wrote:
New haven america wrote:It'll probably floor you to find out that Liri's white.

They’ll probably say something about “self-loathing.”


Simply saying that someone'll talk about something doesn't prove they're wrong. I really don't care about this person's skin color, it doesn't change the argument at all.
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Postby New haven america » Fri May 10, 2019 1:54 pm

Scomagia wrote:
New haven america wrote:You are aware that trigger warnings and safe spaces are an actual thing in psychology to help people with PTSD and other stress disorders to avoid a possible trigger to that disorder ahead of time as well as an area where the can deal with said trigger without hurting themselves or others?

Trigger warnings are psychologically harmful, not helpful. They encourage avoidance of "triggers", the exact opposite of effective treatments. You have to be exposed to triggers in order to desensitized to them. Warning people about "triggers" is giving them a big out to avoid the trigger altogether. Not helpful.

Got it.

So you'd rather an army veteran with PTSD not be warned about a video or presentation involving large amounts of gunfire or videos of war, get triggered, and then proceed to possible harm themselves and multiple other people in the process? Instead of just being told a head of time that this said video/presentation is going to involve those things and if they don't think they can handle it then they can leave if they desire? Because they need to get over it?

Flawless logic, truly.
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Postby Kustonia » Fri May 10, 2019 1:55 pm

Liriena wrote:
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White people have had racial homogeneity, and race is the one and only thing that can preserve European culture. Other races of people do not care about Whites and their culture, they have their own to preserve. Also, why should non-whites care? They didn't build White civilization, they built their own civilizations, and they can return to them any time they'd like. Whites do not have that privilege.

There's no such thing as "white civilization". There is a multiplicity of cultures and civilizations which are currently majority white as per the contemporary definition of that word. But those cultures and civilizations are just as connected to each other as they are to many majority non-white ones, and owe as much of their collected heritage to them as they do to their majority white peers. Some delusional concern with the purity of skin tone didn't determine the construction of the many European cultures, nor did some sort of unified European culture. The idea that all of Europe and all white people share a singular heritage is historical illiteracy in the service of a retroactive appropriation of other people's heritage by mediocre demagogues and the vulnerable and alienated people that they recruit.

Lithuanian culture and Catalan culture have little in common, and both have had as much influence on my own heritage as aboriginal and Japanese culture. My pale skin doesn't make me the heir of the medieval Ukranians or the Pictish tribes. Nor does it oblige me to try to stupidly ensure some sort of cultural "purity" for "white" cultures thousands of miles away whose language I don't speak.


Whites and their genetic makeup, along with their shared origin and history, have big roles to play in defining White civilization. Your illogical conclusion that Japanese, Aboriginals, Ukrainians, and Pictish people all have the same culture and shared civilization because of their "retroactive appropriation" is a cosmopolitan fallacy. Cultures are essentially phenotypes, which are directly influenced by genotypes, not vice versa.

Civilizations go through periods of rise and decline. Civilization, at least White civilization, is not improving at all. Intelligence levels have been declining exponentially in recent years, and many professionals and experts believe it is the egalitarian myth that defines our lifestyles that is leading to this decline, not our respective phenotypic cultures. For more information on this topic, I suggest finding out more about this book: https://www.amazon.com/At-Our-Wits-End- ... 184540985X
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Postby Des-Bal » Fri May 10, 2019 1:56 pm

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And.....why do their comments bug you so much?

Sometimes no response is the best response.

As with gamergate; they couldn't let it go. I tried that gals game and it sucked. Left to it's own merit; it would have died an unknown death. Gamergate brought it a great deal of attention to it and the main players (I think there were three?).

Anyway; If you aren't being hurt by their actions; why worry about it?



They don't

That's immaterial.

I don't care about gamergate, you are talking about gamergate, I am not.

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New haven america wrote:You are aware that trigger warnings and safe spaces are an actual thing in psychology to help people with PTSD and other stress disorders to avoid a possible trigger to that disorder ahead of time as well as an area where the can deal with said trigger without hurting themselves or others?


When psychological concepts spill out of psychology they typically become trash. General trigger warnings don't help, encourage avoidance behaviors, and may suggest that normal emotional responses are a sign of fragility.


Skarten wrote:Ah, yes, here we see yet another "Europeans don't deserve to exist". Quickly followed by an "Just because i'm saying that white people don't need to exist i'm not saying that europeans shouldn't need to exist."


Why do white people need to exist? Why is that important, why are we lessened if people are less white?
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Postby LiberNovusAmericae » Fri May 10, 2019 1:57 pm

New haven america wrote:
LiberNovusAmericae wrote:What? Are you going to falsely call out a "self-own" by twisting my words?

You are aware that trigger warnings and safe spaces are an actual thing in psychology to help people with PTSD and other stress disorders to avoid a possible trigger to that disorder ahead of time as well as an area where the can deal with said trigger without hurting themselves or others?

They've grown passed that. Now some people demand them so they don't have to hear opinions they do not like, not because they actually have PTSD.

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Scomagia wrote:
New haven america wrote:You are aware that trigger warnings and safe spaces are an actual thing in psychology to help people with PTSD and other stress disorders to avoid a possible trigger to that disorder ahead of time as well as an area where the can deal with said trigger without hurting themselves or others?

Trigger warnings are psychologically harmful, not helpful. They encourage avoidance of "triggers", the exact opposite of effective treatments. You have to be exposed to triggers in order to desensitized to them. Warning people about "triggers" is giving them a big out to avoid the trigger altogether. Not helpful.

I cannot claim to be a psychologist; nonetheless, I imagine that what in a controlled, calm and supervised context might do what you suggested might do serious harm in an uncontrolled, unsupervised context. You don't teach a person to swim in rapids; you do it in a swimming pool.
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Postby New haven america » Fri May 10, 2019 1:59 pm

LiberNovusAmericae wrote:
New haven america wrote:You are aware that trigger warnings and safe spaces are an actual thing in psychology to help people with PTSD and other stress disorders to avoid a possible trigger to that disorder ahead of time as well as an area where the can deal with said trigger without hurting themselves or others?

They've grown passed that. Now some people demand them so they don't have to hear opinions they do not like, not because they actually have PTSD.

And that's a valid complaint and argument.

But using their mere existence is not.
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