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Postby Ors Might » Tue May 21, 2019 10:30 am

Gormwood wrote:So what should we call it when white people are much less likely to be brutalized or killed by police during a traffic stop, or are much more likely to get a loan approval or a callback for a job application especially over the phone?

Racism against minorities? Christ, you’re treating being given respect as a human as a privilege instead of the bare minimum.
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Postby Bear Stearns » Tue May 21, 2019 10:54 am

Gormwood wrote:So what should we call it when white people are much less likely to be brutalized or killed by police during a traffic stop


Not entirelytrue. When looking at % of all people killed by police who are white vs. white % of total population, then yes, white people as a whole are less likely to be killed by police. But this doesn't tell you much.

However, when you breakdown the racial demographics of America's criminal population, white criminals are actually overrepresented in police shootings when compared to black criminals. The reason why black people in general have more police interactions is because they are more likely to be criminals.

Gormwood wrote:or are much more likely to get a loan approval or a callback for a job application especially over the phone?


Supply and demand. It is illegal for banks to discriminate based on race, and given how touchy they are about regulation and losing their licenses, banks take this very seriously. They go to great lengths to ensure that there is no discrimination. What they do instead, however, is develop customer profiles that try to find patterns between certain characteristics and the likelihood of default. These are race neutral characteristics. What the data shows, however, is that black people are more likely to have characteristics that tend predict loan default, hence their higher denial rates. That's not the fault of anybody, that's just supply and demand.

For job applications, culture fits are often found to be the strongest determining factor of whether or not one is hired. People tend to hire those they will most likely get along with. Make of that what you will.
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Postby Slongs » Tue May 21, 2019 11:02 am

LiberNovusAmericae wrote:I think the concept of "white privilege" was created to knock white people down, rather than actually helping minorities rise up.


Not just white people. But also anyone who disagrees with the mentality
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Postby Bear Stearns » Tue May 21, 2019 11:05 am

Slongs wrote:
LiberNovusAmericae wrote:I think the concept of "white privilege" was created to knock white people down, rather than actually helping minorities rise up.


Not just white people. But also anyone who disagrees with the mentality


I wonder, when white people become a numeric minority, what they're going to say about us then.
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Postby Slongs » Tue May 21, 2019 11:08 am

Bear Stearns wrote:
Slongs wrote:
Not just white people. But also anyone who disagrees with the mentality


I wonder, when white people become a numeric minority, what they're going to say about us then.


I doubt they'll ever change their view on us until there's no white person left in the world
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Postby Nakena » Tue May 21, 2019 11:08 am

Bear Stearns wrote:
Slongs wrote:
Not just white people. But also anyone who disagrees with the mentality


I wonder, when white people become a numeric minority, what they're going to say about us then.


Rhodesia or South Africa might be interesting to look at.

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Postby Slongs » Tue May 21, 2019 11:09 am

Nakena wrote:
Bear Stearns wrote:
I wonder, when white people become a numeric minority, what they're going to say about us then.


Rhodesia or South Africa might be interesting to look at.


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Postby Bear Stearns » Tue May 21, 2019 11:10 am

Nakena wrote:
Bear Stearns wrote:
I wonder, when white people become a numeric minority, what they're going to say about us then.


Rhodesia or South Africa might be interesting to look at.


Wonderful.
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Postby Israeli Defense Force » Tue May 21, 2019 11:14 am

White privilege doesn't exist. The ignorant and politically ambitious who claim it does are just mimicking the same sort of nonsense conspiracy theories that antisemites propagate against Jews.

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Postby Akrisen » Tue May 21, 2019 11:14 am

White privilege is bad yes? So black privilege is bad in Nigeria yes? Arab privilege is bad in Yemen yes? Han privilege is bad in China yes?

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Postby Slongs » Tue May 21, 2019 11:29 am

Akrisen wrote:White privilege is bad yes? So black privilege is bad in Nigeria yes? Arab privilege is bad in Yemen yes? Han privilege is bad in China yes?


But don't tell the sensitive racists that. They'll just get triggered
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Postby Drongonia » Tue May 21, 2019 11:33 am

Gormwood wrote:So what should we call it when white people are much less likely to be brutalized or killed by police during a traffic stop, or are much more likely to get a loan approval or a callback for a job application especially over the phone?


If a group of people defined by any characteristic (be it age, gender, race, religion or whatever) are less statistically likely to commit crimes, or more likely to hold a steady income, and you act on those likelihoods, that's not privilege.

White people commit less crime so they get treated better by the cops.
White and Asian people are usually more reliable debtors, so they get better loan approval rates.
Job applications are a tricky one because that's down to the personal view of the person making the call, and I doubt there would be a single statistic to back that up, so it's bs.
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Postby LiberNovusAmericae » Tue May 21, 2019 11:40 am

Bear Stearns wrote:
Slongs wrote:
Not just white people. But also anyone who disagrees with the mentality


I wonder, when white people become a numeric minority, what they're going to say about us then.

They'll complain that we have nice things, and would advocate that they be seized to be given to the "masses." (Assuming this happens. I don't buy into the White Genocide conspiracy theory.)
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Postby Galloism » Tue May 21, 2019 11:53 am

Gormwood wrote:So what should we call it when white people are much less likely to be brutalized or killed by police during a traffic stop, or are much more likely to get a loan approval or a callback for a job application especially over the phone?


I don't know. What do we call it for women?
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Postby Nakena » Tue May 21, 2019 12:19 pm

Galloism wrote:
Gormwood wrote:So what should we call it when white people are much less likely to be brutalized or killed by police during a traffic stop, or are much more likely to get a loan approval or a callback for a job application especially over the phone?


I don't know. What do we call it for women?


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Postby Galloism » Tue May 21, 2019 12:40 pm

Nakena wrote:
Galloism wrote:
I don't know. What do we call it for women?


Female Supremacy

You're right - privilege does sound better.
Venicilian: wow. Jesus hung around with everyone. boys, girls, rich, poor(mostly), sick, healthy, etc. in fact, i bet he even went up to gay people and tried to heal them so they would be straight.
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Postby Slongs » Tue May 21, 2019 2:57 pm

LiberNovusAmericae wrote:
Bear Stearns wrote:
I wonder, when white people become a numeric minority, what they're going to say about us then.

They'll complain that we have nice things, and would advocate that they be seized to be given to the "masses." (Assuming this happens. I don't buy into the White Genocide conspiracy theory.)


Steals everything What nice things?
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Postby Bear Stearns » Tue May 21, 2019 3:54 pm

LiberNovusAmericae wrote:
Bear Stearns wrote:
I wonder, when white people become a numeric minority, what they're going to say about us then.

They'll complain that we have nice things, and would advocate that they be seized to be given to the "masses." (Assuming this happens. I don't buy into the White Genocide conspiracy theory.)


In the future, I could see rhetoric about "the 1%" eventually just becoming "white people". Not a pleasant thought.
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Postby Nova Cyberia » Tue May 21, 2019 4:47 pm

Bear Stearns wrote:
Nakena wrote:
Rhodesia or South Africa might be interesting to look at.


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Postby Akrisen » Tue May 21, 2019 6:44 pm

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LiberNovusAmericae wrote:They'll complain that we have nice things, and would advocate that they be seized to be given to the "masses." (Assuming this happens. I don't buy into the White Genocide conspiracy theory.)


In the future, I could see rhetoric about "the 1%" eventually just becoming "white people". Not a pleasant thought.


The 1% are already white people, the irony of diversity advocates is they want to create a country where there is a wealthy white upper caste and a poor brown lower caste for the rest of time. As America gets more diverse only its poor and middle class does, the upper class is still very very white and most likely will never change in demography because its that class that controls the country in the first place. Observe South Africa while the middle class and poor whites are hated by the blacks, the rich class lives in luxury and peace of mind while talking about racism.
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Postby Nakena » Tue May 21, 2019 7:33 pm

Galloism wrote:
Nakena wrote:
Female Supremacy

You're right - privilege does sound better.


And then you have the next level: Privilege escalation
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Postby Slongs » Tue May 21, 2019 11:17 pm

If white privilege really did exist, then I wanna know what benefits I can grab from it as well as how and where I can grab those benefits
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Postby Bear Stearns » Tue May 21, 2019 11:20 pm

Akrisen wrote:
Bear Stearns wrote:
In the future, I could see rhetoric about "the 1%" eventually just becoming "white people". Not a pleasant thought.


The 1% are already white people, the irony of diversity advocates is they want to create a country where there is a wealthy white upper caste and a poor brown lower caste for the rest of time. As America gets more diverse only its poor and middle class does, the upper class is still very very white and most likely will never change in demography because its that class that controls the country in the first place. Observe South Africa while the middle class and poor whites are hated by the blacks, the rich class lives in luxury and peace of mind while talking about racism.


Well, I'm sure people will appreciate it when wealth redistribution takes on an increasingly racial tone.

Lock and load.
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Postby West Leas Oros 2 » Wed May 22, 2019 5:42 am

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LiberNovusAmericae wrote:They'll complain that we have nice things, and would advocate that they be seized to be given to the "masses." (Assuming this happens. I don't buy into the White Genocide conspiracy theory.)


In the future, I could see rhetoric about "the 1%" eventually just becoming "white people". Not a pleasant thought.

As a communist, this sort of shit is why I eschew mainstream western identitarian socialism.
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Postby Akrisen » Wed May 22, 2019 6:40 am

Bear Stearns wrote:
Akrisen wrote:
The 1% are already white people, the irony of diversity advocates is they want to create a country where there is a wealthy white upper caste and a poor brown lower caste for the rest of time. As America gets more diverse only its poor and middle class does, the upper class is still very very white and most likely will never change in demography because its that class that controls the country in the first place. Observe South Africa while the middle class and poor whites are hated by the blacks, the rich class lives in luxury and peace of mind while talking about racism.


Well, I'm sure people will appreciate it when wealth redistribution takes on an increasingly racial tone.

Lock and load.


The white elites will never accept that, only the white peasants can be forced to give up money to minorities.

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