Learning about white privilege is anti-white, studies prove

[Kowani]

Just because ethnic groups are different does not mean they're not equal, or that some should be discriminated against.

Equal means "the same". You can't be same-different. Discrimination is a natural human process. All humans discriminate, and not always on race.

When people say that races are equal, nobody means that they’re the same. It is understood that all members of all races have the same inherent worth as human beings.

[Kustonia]

A "race" is a specific, genotypic group of Homo sapien.

IQ differences, physical traits, quirks, and abilities, genetic diseases and other health concerns all play a part in determining someone's race.

What race is someone with equal parts African, European, Asian, and Native American genotypes?

I believe their is a classification for them, but I am personally not aware of that classification. Those sorts of people are extremely unusual.

I would call them Omnes gentis - Omnessian?

[Kowani]

What race is someone with equal parts African, European, Asian, and Native American genotypes?

I believe their is a classification for them, but I am personally not aware of that classification. Those sorts of people are extremely unusual.

Well, considering I am one of those people…

[Kustonia]

Equal means "the same". You can't be same-different. Discrimination is a natural human process. All humans discriminate, and not always on race.

When people say that races are equal, nobody means that they’re the same. It is understood that all members of all races have the same inherent worth as human beings.

What constitutes "same inherent worth as human beings"? Worth is very subjective.

[The Xenopolis Confederation]

Just because ethnic groups are different does not mean they're not equal, or that some should be discriminated against.

Equal means "the same". You can't be same-different. Discrimination is a natural human process. All humans discriminate, and not always on race.

By equal they mean equal in worth, equal in potential, equal in the rights they are entitled to. Not equal in the mathematical sense.

[Kowani]

When people say that races are equal, nobody means that they’re the same. It is understood that all members of all races have the same inherent worth as human beings.

What constitutes "same inherent worth as human beings"? Worth is very subjective.

From a linguistic perspective, if they have inherent worth, it cannot be subjective.

[Liriena]

I thought I don't need to disclaim that "western" and "white" are equivalent... Again, "western" gets associated with "white" because "western" countries are white-majority.

...and because Western countries were founded by White people.

Pale skin didn't cause the Enlightenment. See, Zera Yacob.

[Liriena]

A "race" is a specific, genotypic group of Homo sapien.

IQ differences, physical traits, quirks, and abilities, genetic diseases and other health concerns all play a part in determining someone's race.

No.

False on all accounts in fact.

I swear, no group has done more to disprove the idea that white people are inherently better at doing science than white supremacists.

[Liriena]

Why should all of white people be regarded as heirs to the Enlightenment when only a few of the majority-white societies at the time that still exist had authors who participated in it?

Still a product of white culture.

White culture? Do you think Rousseau, Kant and Hobbes all shared a singular "white culture" just because of their skin tone?

I guess something for whites to look up to and get inspired. Not just whites, but all the others who want to improve on the Enlightenment ideals.

Your caveat at the end illustrates the pointlessness of trying to define a culture as belonging to a specific skin tone, at least on a global scale.

And if you mean in terms of the Enlightenment having an influence on contemporary societies, even then it could not be regarded as exclusively part of a "white collective heritage", since a lot of racially diverse or majority non-white societies have been directly influenced by the Enlightenment.

Western philosophy is that: western philosophy. It's not "white philosophy". It doesn't belong to a specific skin tone. It belongs, at least in terms of its origins, to a vaguely defined geographical region.

I thought I don't need to disclaim that "western" and "white" are equivalent... Again, "western" gets associated with "white" because "western" countries are majority-white.

Then why do the majority white nations of South America often get excluded from being "western"?

[Washington Resistance Army]

Then why do the majority white nations of South America often get excluded from being "western"?

Cuz we both know you silly South Americans aren't really white

This message brought to you by the Celtic master race

[Liriena]

Then why do the majority white nations of South America often get excluded from being "western"?

Cuz we both know you silly South Americans aren't really white

This message brought to you by the Celtic master race

Celts are actually not white and must therefor be subjugated! Anglo-Saxon gang!

[Nakena]

White culture? Do you think Rousseau, Kant and Hobbes all shared a singular "white culture" just because of their skin tone?

"White" is pretty much the american term for european.

[Emulation White]

So racially focused claims of pride and superiority are okay if you're black? Am I misunderstanding you?

No, because 'black pride', like 'gay pride' and various other minorities ethnic or otherwise, is not an expression of 'superiority', it's about declaring that you're still here and not going to be silent despite all the bullshit and discrimination and oppression you've faced as a group.

'White Pride' carries negative connotations because, urr, they haven't survived or overcome a history of abuse and disenfranchisement, they were the ones doing the abusing and disenfranchising, and, in spite of how much they like to claim the contrary, still benefit from being part of the majority in a society that for most of it's history was deliberately structured to favor them and shit on minorities and 'undesirables', even though as we all know the Civil Rights Act ended all racism and discrimination in America forever and always.

How many people feel this way? I'm sorry, but this post makes me want to vomit. This is absolutely sickening. Why am I treated as a villain? Why? Why am I supposed to be evil because of the color of my skin? Why are you doing this? I'm just a human being, like you!

[The Xenopolis Confederation]

So racially focused claims of pride and superiority are okay if you're black? Am I misunderstanding you?

No, because 'black pride', like 'gay pride' and various other minorities ethnic or otherwise, is not an expression of 'superiority', it's about declaring that you're still here and not going to be silent despite all the bullshit and discrimination and oppression you've faced as a group.

'White Pride' carries negative connotations because, urr, they haven't survived or overcome a history of abuse and disenfranchisement, they were the ones doing the abusing and disenfranchising, and, in spite of how much they like to claim the contrary, still benefit from being part of the majority in a society that for most of it's history was deliberately structured to favor them and shit on minorities and 'undesirables', even though as we all know the Civil Rights Act ended all racism and discrimination in America forever and always.

I understand that people identifying with the phrase "white pride" tend to be supremacists a lot more often than people identifying with the phrase "black pride," but there's something hypocritical about one phrase being okay and the other not so much.

[Vassenor]

No, because 'black pride', like 'gay pride' and various other minorities ethnic or otherwise, is not an expression of 'superiority', it's about declaring that you're still here and not going to be silent despite all the bullshit and discrimination and oppression you've faced as a group.

'White Pride' carries negative connotations because, urr, they haven't survived or overcome a history of abuse and disenfranchisement, they were the ones doing the abusing and disenfranchising, and, in spite of how much they like to claim the contrary, still benefit from being part of the majority in a society that for most of it's history was deliberately structured to favor them and shit on minorities and 'undesirables', even though as we all know the Civil Rights Act ended all racism and discrimination in America forever and always.

How many people feel this way? I'm sorry, but this post makes me want to vomit. This is absolutely sickening. Why am I treated as a villain? Why? Why am I supposed to be evil because of the color of my skin? Why are you doing this? I'm just a human being, like you!

Who is treating you like a villain, and how?

[Freaneet]

I'm white but I think white privilege is a thing.

[Gormwood]

No, because 'black pride', like 'gay pride' and various other minorities ethnic or otherwise, is not an expression of 'superiority', it's about declaring that you're still here and not going to be silent despite all the bullshit and discrimination and oppression you've faced as a group.

'White Pride' carries negative connotations because, urr, they haven't survived or overcome a history of abuse and disenfranchisement, they were the ones doing the abusing and disenfranchising, and, in spite of how much they like to claim the contrary, still benefit from being part of the majority in a society that for most of it's history was deliberately structured to favor them and shit on minorities and 'undesirables', even though as we all know the Civil Rights Act ended all racism and discrimination in America forever and always.

I understand that people identifying with the phrase "white pride" tend to be supremacists a lot more often than people identifying with the phrase "black pride," but there's something hypocritical about one phrase being okay and the other not so much.

Maybe if certain groups of people didn't keep telling them they need to be ashamed of being black/gay/etc. then they wouldn't have declared being black/gay/etc. is something to be proud of instead.

[LiberNovusAmericae]

Maybe if certain groups of people didn't keep telling them they need to be ashamed of being black/gay/etc.

Apply that same standard to people who happen to be white males please.

[Galloism]

I understand that people identifying with the phrase "white pride" tend to be supremacists a lot more often than people identifying with the phrase "black pride," but there's something hypocritical about one phrase being okay and the other not so much.

Maybe if certain groups of people didn't keep telling them they need to be ashamed of being black/gay/etc. then they wouldn't have declared being black/gay/etc. is something to be proud of instead.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/life/201 ... 912720002/
https://libertyhangout.org/2017/12/emin ... lar-white/
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... -race.html
http://yourblackworld.net/2018/04/23/el ... -be-white/
https://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/ky ... misogynist
https://goodmenproject.com/ethics-value ... ing-white/
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/14/styl ... ilege.html

I mean, you can make that argument Gauth, but you literally just justified White Pride, whether meaning to or not.

I don’t think that’s what you intended. Nor do I think that’s a good idea.

[LiberNovusAmericae]

Maybe if certain groups of people didn't keep telling them they need to be ashamed of being black/gay/etc. then they wouldn't have declared being black/gay/etc. is something to be proud of instead.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/life/201 ... 912720002/
https://libertyhangout.org/2017/12/emin ... lar-white/
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... -race.html
http://yourblackworld.net/2018/04/23/el ... -be-white/
https://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/ky ... misogynist
https://goodmenproject.com/ethics-value ... ing-white/
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/14/styl ... ilege.html

I mean, you can make that argument Gauth, but you literally just justified White Pride, whether meaning to or not.

I don’t think that’s what you intended.

Of course not. We're the exception that the left can still shit on, and most seem to like it that way.

[Diarcesia]

Still a product of white culture.

White culture? Do you think Rousseau, Kant and Hobbes all shared a singular "white culture" just because of their skin tone?

I used to and I'm glad I'm disabused of this notion.

I guess something for whites to look up to and get inspired. Not just whites, but all the others who want to improve on the Enlightenment ideals.

Your caveat at the end illustrates the pointlessness of trying to define a culture as belonging to a specific skin tone, at least on a global scale.

It's useless in a global scale. It still happens because in day to day interactions, it can still be a convenient heuristic. What's better? Taking time to slow down in this hectic world and actually become interested on the other person's story and background as an individual.

I thought I don't need to disclaim that "western" and "white" are equivalent... Again, "western" gets associated with "white" because "western" countries are majority-white.

Then why do the majority white nations of South America often get excluded from being "western"?

My take? GDP per capita

[Galloism]

Then why do the majority white nations of South America often get excluded from being "western"?

My take? GDP per capita

This feels like an uncomfortable truth.

[Gormwood]

Maybe if certain groups of people didn't keep telling them they need to be ashamed of being black/gay/etc. then they wouldn't have declared being black/gay/etc. is something to be proud of instead.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/life/201 ... 912720002/
https://libertyhangout.org/2017/12/emin ... lar-white/
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... -race.html
http://yourblackworld.net/2018/04/23/el ... -be-white/
https://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/ky ... misogynist
https://goodmenproject.com/ethics-value ... ing-white/
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/14/styl ... ilege.html

I mean, you can make that argument Gauth, but you literally just justified White Pride, whether meaning to or not.

I don’t think that’s what you intended.

So is that supposed to be a GOTCHA? Nothing is going to stop white supremacists from feeling they're the real victims of oppression all along despite other pride movements having history of genuine oppression to cite.

[Diarcesia]

I'm white but I think white privilege is a thing.

In the sense that they got a head start in industrialization and modernization. No different from how the Vanderbilts are privileged because Cornelius happened to be a savvy businessman.

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

Except no.

Cultures still exist, as does the nation state.

There is however one united world paltmently assembly that governs the nation states like provinces, or like states in the US.

Which would be impossible due to the fact of the drastically different cultures. The sheer size of such government would ensure it would fail. I mean, look at the League of Nations or the UN, the closest thing to a world government.

League of Nations failed beacuse it didn't have any enforcement and lack of US participation. Oh and the fact that the treaty of Versailles was written so shittly that it made sure that WW1 would get a sequel.

UN is ineffective beacuse again, lack of enforcement. Still better then League of Nations.


A parliamentary assembly would work beacuse, it would have actual enforcement.

For example: The parliamentary assembly votes on whether to allow nationstates to criminalize gay relationships. A majority of earths representatives vote no, they can't criminalize gay relationships. Then that's that.

People in other nationstates don't like it? Vote for someone else to represent them in the parliamentary assembly.