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PostPosted: Sat May 11, 2019 12:34 pm
by Cekoviu
Novus America wrote:
Cekoviu wrote:Then you get into the issue of child pornography and other pornography created without consent, though - consuming such products should not be allowed.


Indeed. Consuming products made by abused children should be banned.
Now when are we banning Chinese clothing?

I'm not certain that China is proportionally the biggest offender in that regard. It seems like Bangladesh and Indonesia are probably worse, as there are an abundance of low-paid adult Chinese workers.

PostPosted: Sat May 11, 2019 12:39 pm
by Novus America
Cekoviu wrote:
Novus America wrote:
Indeed. Consuming products made by abused children should be banned.
Now when are we banning Chinese clothing?

I'm not certain that China is proportionally the biggest offender in that regard. It seems like Bangladesh and Indonesia are probably worse, as there are an abundance of low-paid adult Chinese workers.


Well biggest offender as percentage or total amount of goods?
Regardless abusing and enslaving adults is not really better. They are certainly the worst offender in total amounts of goods produced that blatantly violate our labor protection laws.
But sure they are not the only ones.

The point is that just because some porn is made unethically does not mean all porn is unethical, just as clothes are not inherently unethical even if nearly all our clothes are sourced via a truly vile process.

PostPosted: Sat May 11, 2019 1:06 pm
by Cekoviu
Novus America wrote:
Cekoviu wrote:I'm not certain that China is proportionally the biggest offender in that regard. It seems like Bangladesh and Indonesia are probably worse, as there are an abundance of low-paid adult Chinese workers.


Well biggest offender as percentage or total amount of goods?

I said proportionally, so what do you think?
Regardless abusing and enslaving adults is not really better. They are certainly the worst offender in total amounts of goods produced that blatantly violate our labor protection laws.
But sure they are not the only ones.

The point is that just because some porn is made unethically does not mean all porn is unethical, just as clothes are not inherently unethically even if nearly all our clothes are sourced via a truly vile process.

I mean yeah, I was just nitpicking because I'm super bored.

PostPosted: Sat May 11, 2019 1:12 pm
by The South Falls
Eternal Lotharia wrote:
The South Falls wrote:There's a difference between a 14yr old sending nudes, and a 9or 10yr old being forced upon by an older man on camera.

Of course, I was making a distinction explicitly to make that clear of how both types of legally recognized child porn can harm people's lives.

It's a serious issue we need to confront.

of course.

PostPosted: Sat May 11, 2019 2:28 pm
by Thermodolia
Ifreann wrote:
Inkopolitia wrote:If the users upload the pirated videos, Pornhub can't be blamed. The pirated videos should still be fought against by deleting them though

Pornhub absolutely can be blamed. It's their website, they decide who can upload what videos. They could limit uploads to verified performers and companies.

Let’s just fuck the amateur porn community! What a great idea Iffy, it’s not like anyone will hate your idea

PostPosted: Sat May 11, 2019 2:33 pm
by The Two Jerseys
Thermodolia wrote:Let’s just fuck the amateur porn community!

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PostPosted: Sat May 11, 2019 2:36 pm
by Thermodolia
Ifreann wrote:
Inkopolitia wrote:If the users upload the pirated videos, Pornhub can't be blamed. The pirated videos should still be fought against by deleting them though

Pornhub absolutely can be blamed. It's their website, they decide who can upload what videos. They could limit uploads to verified performers and companies.

Let’s just fuck the amateur porn community! What a great idea Iffy, it’s not like anyone will hate your idea

PostPosted: Sat May 11, 2019 2:38 pm
by Mystic Warriors
Ifreann wrote:
Inkopolitia wrote:If the users upload the pirated videos, Pornhub can't be blamed. The pirated videos should still be fought against by deleting them though

Pornhub absolutely can be blamed. It's their website, they decide who can upload what videos. They could limit uploads to verified performers and companies.



Damn YouTube.

PostPosted: Sat May 11, 2019 2:58 pm
by Ifreann
Thermodolia wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Pornhub absolutely can be blamed. It's their website, they decide who can upload what videos. They could limit uploads to verified performers and companies.

Let’s just fuck the amateur porn community!

Let's make sure that they're making money from their work, not just Pornhub.
What a great idea Iffy, it’s not like anyone will hate your idea

That's fucking rich coming from you, Mr. "Military Junta With Sham Democracy". Since when did you care whether ideas are popular? Why do you think I care? I'm not running for office here, I'm just posting online.

PostPosted: Sat May 11, 2019 3:15 pm
by Cekoviu
Thermodolia wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Pornhub absolutely can be blamed. It's their website, they decide who can upload what videos. They could limit uploads to verified performers and companies.

Let’s just fuck the amateur porn community!

Yes, let's do that.
But more importantly, there are other websites where amateurs can post content. Pornhub is the biggest outlet, but by no means the only one.

PostPosted: Sat May 11, 2019 4:25 pm
by Mettaton-EX
Thermodolia wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Pornhub absolutely can be blamed. It's their website, they decide who can upload what videos. They could limit uploads to verified performers and companies.

Let’s just fuck the amateur porn community! What a great idea Iffy, it’s not like anyone will hate your idea

well, people seem to be fine with pornhub despite that being their entire business model, so