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Postby Evil Dictators Happyland » Thu May 09, 2019 10:19 am

Thermodolia wrote:
Evil Dictators Happyland wrote:Kind of off topic, but I've always found it funny that the people who rage against this stuff are often the most likely to engage in it. People in Houston were incredibly angry when the first robot brothel in America was going to open there, but with modern demographic analysis being what it is, I guarantee that there was a good reason they decided to put it in Houston.

I’m willing to bet several million dollars that there’s more than a few cars with Jesus fishes or some other cheesy religious thing in the parking lot

Its opening was blocked. Shame, too - it was probably the only way that Texas could become a new center of technological development :p

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Postby Thermodolia » Thu May 09, 2019 10:21 am

Evil Dictators Happyland wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:I’m willing to bet several million dollars that there’s more than a few cars with Jesus fishes or some other cheesy religious thing in the parking lot

Its opening was blocked. Shame, too - it was probably the only way that Texas could become a new center of technological development :p

They could just come over to Georgia. I’m sure the state representatives will love the possibility of never having to get someone pregnant
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Postby Cekoviu » Thu May 09, 2019 10:34 am

Evil Dictators Happyland wrote:
Cekoviu wrote:I mean as a parent.

You do know that these tools already exist, right?

Yes, my parents use it for my younger siblings. You seem to be reading something other than my post.
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Postby Dogmeat » Thu May 09, 2019 10:36 am

Conserative Morality wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Hell all he has to do is look to the American South. The people in the south regularly rage against porn yet are the highest consumers of it

It gets worse.
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Ah, the wholesome nature of outlawing pornography!

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Postby Evil Dictators Happyland » Thu May 09, 2019 10:39 am

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Evil Dictators Happyland wrote:You do know that these tools already exist, right?

Yes, my parents use it for my younger siblings. You seem to be reading something other than my post.

I was under the impression that you were advocating for some sort of change in policy (and my misconceptions were largely the result of trying to guess what that change would be), but if you're not, I'll stop assuming that. I don't have a problem with the status quo, so I guess that puts us on the same side.

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Postby The Great-German Empire » Thu May 09, 2019 10:39 am

Thermodolia wrote:That’s where your wrong buddy
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The only thing porn warps is expectations of sex and that’s it. And that’s not a given either
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Um no.

You're right that it's not a given. Correlation here is quite weak, and that's another reason why none of its effects warrant any further regulation.

Thermodolia wrote:Porn is still quite physical. Pun not intended.


In the making, yes; In distribution, much less so. Again, it's just another sub-medium of information.
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Postby Cekoviu » Thu May 09, 2019 10:44 am

Evil Dictators Happyland wrote:
Cekoviu wrote:Yes, my parents use it for my younger siblings. You seem to be reading something other than my post.

I was under the impression that you were advocating for some sort of change in policy (and my misconceptions were largely the result of trying to guess what that change would be), but if you're not, I'll stop assuming that. I don't have a problem with the status quo, so I guess that puts us on the same side.

I'm not; my entire point throughout this thread has been that governments should not be restricting usage of porn when it's consensual.
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Postby Evil Dictators Happyland » Thu May 09, 2019 10:48 am

Cekoviu wrote:
Evil Dictators Happyland wrote:I was under the impression that you were advocating for some sort of change in policy (and my misconceptions were largely the result of trying to guess what that change would be), but if you're not, I'll stop assuming that. I don't have a problem with the status quo, so I guess that puts us on the same side.

I'm not; my entire point throughout this thread has been that governments should not be restricting usage of porn when it's consensual.

...So basically status quo.

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Postby Gormwood » Thu May 09, 2019 10:50 am

Dogmeat wrote:
Conserative Morality wrote:It gets worse.

Ah, the wholesome nature of outlawing pornography!

Well... I'm canceling my Pakistan vacation.

But the dog sex means you'd be popular...
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Postby -Ocelot- » Thu May 09, 2019 11:04 am

Borovan entered the region as he wrote:Porn bad it desensitizes people and make it hard to have sex with person because you need higher stimuli to get a turn on and there's a higher chance you'll turn into a pedohile


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Postby The New California Republic » Thu May 09, 2019 11:05 am

Gormwood wrote:
Dogmeat wrote:Well... I'm canceling my Pakistan vacation.

But the dog sex means you'd be popular...

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Postby Internationalist Bastard » Thu May 09, 2019 12:21 pm

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/all-about-sex/201601/evidence-mounts-more-porn-less-sexual-assault%3famp
But you know, porn is soooo evil
Never mind pornhub has a sexual wellness site that does a better job explaining shit then our schools [LINK REDACTED BY MOD]
Because we all gotta blame something and Tengri knows it can’t be anything else but the porn that causes sexual assault like terrible sexual education that barely covers things like informed consent or the long history of sexual assault victims not getting justice.
Nope it’s porn
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Postby Gormwood » Thu May 09, 2019 12:23 pm

Internationalist Bastard wrote:https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/all-about-sex/201601/evidence-mounts-more-porn-less-sexual-assault%3famp
But you know, porn is soooo evil
Never mind pornhub has a sexual wellness site that does a better job explaining shit then our schools
Because we all gotta blame something and Tengri knows it can’t be anything else but the porn that causes sexual assault like terrible sexual education that barely covers things like informed consent or the long history of sexual assault victims not getting justice.
Nope it’s porn

It's about riling up the Evangelical base for elections. And good chance a number of the legislators and base are doing porn in the dark themselves.
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Postby Cekoviu » Thu May 09, 2019 12:27 pm

Internationalist Bastard wrote:https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/all-about-sex/201601/evidence-mounts-more-porn-less-sexual-assault%3famp
But you know, porn is soooo evil
Never mind pornhub has a sexual wellness site that does a better job explaining shit then our schools [LINK REDACTED BY MOD]
Because we all gotta blame something and Tengri knows it can’t be anything else but the porn that causes sexual assault like terrible sexual education that barely covers things like informed consent or the long history of sexual assault victims not getting justice.
Nope it’s porn

I agree with your post, but I'm pretty sure it will be deleted bco the link to Pornhub.
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Gormwood wrote:
Internationalist Bastard wrote:https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/all-about-sex/201601/evidence-mounts-more-porn-less-sexual-assault%3famp
But you know, porn is soooo evil
Never mind pornhub has a sexual wellness site that does a better job explaining shit then our schools
Because we all gotta blame something and Tengri knows it can’t be anything else but the porn that causes sexual assault like terrible sexual education that barely covers things like informed consent or the long history of sexual assault victims not getting justice.
Nope it’s porn

It's about riling up the Evangelical base for elections. And good chance a number of the legislators and base are doing porn in the dark themselves.


Where will the US be in 50 years from now? Christian fundamentalists are willing to do anything to expand. Mormons have basically captured an entire state from America. Where will that country be in the future if Christian fundamentalism remains unchecked?

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-Ocelot- wrote:
Gormwood wrote:It's about riling up the Evangelical base for elections. And good chance a number of the legislators and base are doing porn in the dark themselves.


Where will the US be in 50 years from now? Christian fundamentalists are willing to do anything to expand. Mormons have basically captured an entire state from America. Where will that country be in the future if Christian fundamentalism remains unchecked?

But it's okay as long as it's not Muslims.
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Postby Cekoviu » Thu May 09, 2019 2:09 pm

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Gormwood wrote:It's about riling up the Evangelical base for elections. And good chance a number of the legislators and base are doing porn in the dark themselves.


Where will the US be in 50 years from now? Christian fundamentalists are willing to do anything to expand. Mormons have basically captured an entire state from America. Where will that country be in the future if Christian fundamentalism remains unchecked?

Since I'm from Utah, I feel compelled to say that the state is experiencing an overall decline in LDS Church membership, partially due to its homophobic views (there was a big exodus in 2015(?) because they made it so that children of LGBTQ+ parents, even if they were cishet, couldn't be baptized until 18). It's only about 60% Mormon atm, and Mormons have been in control of the state for like 150 years anyway. While the government pushes a Mormon agenda, the actual population of the state is not quite as unbalanced.
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Postby Mystic Warriors » Thu May 09, 2019 2:48 pm

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West Leas Oros 2 wrote:Arizona democrats maybe, but I can assure that elsewhere, democrats would support this.

Democrat elsewhere. Don't support it.
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Borovan entered the region as he wrote:Porn bad it desensitizes people and make it hard to have sex with person because you need higher stimuli to get a turn on and there's a higher chance you'll turn into a pedohile

God damn this is a stupid fucking sentence.
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The Huskar Social Union wrote:
Borovan entered the region as he wrote:Porn bad it desensitizes people and make it hard to have sex with person because you need higher stimuli to get a turn on and there's a higher chance you'll turn into a pedohile

God damn this is a stupid fucking sentence.

I actually dismissed it as a crude parody at first; but the sad thing is that it is likely intended to be deadly serious...
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Postby The South Falls » Thu May 09, 2019 3:42 pm

The New California Republic wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:God damn this is a stupid fucking sentence.

I actually dismissed it as a crude parody at first; but the sad thing is that it is likely intended to be deadly serious...

I hate pedophiles. Pedo-hiles though?

Btw, people watch porn often. If it was such an overwhelming problem, then millions of people would be considered "not good enough". At that point, at least half the nation. I would think that pornstars are appealing due to their extremely above average looks. Therefore, a majority of people would have to be so enamored by pornstars as to shun all else.
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Postby Nethela » Thu May 09, 2019 4:32 pm

I'm glad my state is doing this, pornography is a plague
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Postby Ostroeuropa » Thu May 09, 2019 4:34 pm

Pornography isn't harmful, except in the cases where it gives an impression of sex that isn't accurate. That can't be resolved through banning porn, but only through teaching sex education.

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Hatterleigh wrote:"If it's not hurting anyone else just let people do it"
Similar to the drugs thing, it is hurting the person using it

Why is this the state's problem?


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Though it's worth noting i've seen some radical feminists argue, somewhat convincingly, that pornography teaches "men" (yeah yeah, I know.) that certain sex acts are normal (anal mostly) and that they're part of a sex life and blah blah, and that it unfairly raises the standard expectations of what sex should involve, in effect raising the bar and indicating not only that a woman is a prude if she wont fuck a guy, but even a prude if she won't go the full 9 yards and do a bunch of what are essentially fetishistic acts ranging from regular oral sex to anal and so on.

That strikes me as a valid concern that impacts people other than the user themselves, but not a concern dealt with through the elimination of pornography directly.

Moreover, suspiciously absent from the feminist criticism, was acknowledgement that pornography will also indicate to men unrealistic expectations about sex that would harm their wellbeing too (Even as users of products, there is an expectation of being warned for harm that may arise.). For instance, an expectation that she should be moaning a certain amount and so on. This in itself can damage a mens self-esteem and so on, as well as lead to them escalating in intensity to the point they may injure the woman involved, thinking they're not doing it ah, hard enough as it were.

There's a bunch of problems pornography can cause. It's just a matter of getting people to understand that porn is to sex what action movies are to a fight, and you're a fucking moron if you watch Avengers and decide you're now able to take on a gang instead of.

You know.

Self-defense classes.

Pornography occupies a particular niche where it is fictional but not always understood to be so. Just about the only pornographic regulations you'd need are disclaimers noting this fact before a video starts, and arguably that's unnecessary but it's something i'd probably support, and comprehensive sex education.

Yes even covering technique, get over it you guys. ;p
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Postby Internationalist Bastard » Thu May 09, 2019 4:34 pm

Nethela wrote:I'm glad my state is doing this, pornography is a plague

You could surely state the symptoms then
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