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Postby Mystic Warriors » Sat May 11, 2019 1:32 am

Rezmaeristan wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Porn isn’t bad though.


And why not? It's a drug, and it has the same effects as physical drugs. It makes you more irritable, less confident, and more importantly it wastes time.

Plus, by satisfying your sexual desires, it removes any impetus for you to get out and actually look for a real partner, which means people don't get married and start families(or do so at lesser rates) thus causing societal collapse.



That's one slippery slope you got there.
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Postby Rising Palms » Sat May 11, 2019 1:41 am

I bet you all those lawmakers are avid porn users themselves...

As for my opinion: Measles problem > Porn "problem"

I think masturbation is a wonderful thing, getting measles not so much. Those Arizona lawmakers need to focus on the issues that matter. People aren't having less sex because of porn, it's because of a multitude of reasons stemming from education and economic factors (lack of available housing makes it harder to start families). Also not everyone wants a family. Not everyone is interested in dating when they have other things to worry about.

Singapore has one of the lowest (if not the lowest) birth rate in the world, is it because they're obsessed with porn? No. South Korea has an even lower birth rate. Must be the porn folks...
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Postby Page » Sat May 11, 2019 2:09 am

Rezmaeristan wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Porn isn’t bad though.


And why not? It's a drug, and it has the same effects as physical drugs. It makes you more irritable, less confident, and more importantly it wastes time.

Plus, by satisfying your sexual desires, it removes any impetus for you to get out and actually look for a real partner, which means people don't get married and start families(or do so at lesser rates) thus causing societal collapse.


This whole post is factually incorrect. Porn is literally not a drug, nor is gambling, you can't just call things drugs based on the fact that some people might sometimes get psychologically addicted to it. Caffeine is a drug, alcohol is a drug, but porn is not. There is an objective scientific definition of what constitutes a drug.

Neither porn nor drugs can be generalized in such a way that it makes people more irritable, less confident, and wastes time. Some drugs and some béhaviors can have these effects, but you make it sound like there are no benefits involved. People don't deliberately try to make themselves feel bad and they don't continue doing things that only make them feel bad with no positive effects at all. Porn facilitates sexual pleasure, that is its purpose. And calling porn a 'waste of time' is just your perspective. Porn is for entertainment, if it's a waste of time then so are any other recreational activities. And if you do consider all pleasure seeking behavior as a waste of time, I feel sorry for you.

Also, the vast, vast majority of people who have a choice between porn and having sex choose sex. And there are plenty enough humans being born, the world population is continously increasing.
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Postby Costa Fierro » Sat May 11, 2019 2:15 am

Page wrote:Also, the vast, vast majority of people who have a choice between porn and having sex choose sex.


Porn is free.
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Postby Thermodolia » Sat May 11, 2019 5:58 am

Page wrote:
Eternal Lotharia wrote:Ya know, if he sent those things not knowing they were underage...but he didn't care if they were. There's making the mistake of not verifying, which, fair, both sides of who's guilty in that argument are equally valid. Then there's not caring period, and using Tumblr jesus christ for that.

Which brings up another porn thing:
Tumblr.

....

Nuke it. Nuke it to the ground.


Tumblr already nuked itself by banning porn.

And Pornhub wants to buy it and restore it
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Postby Ifreann » Sat May 11, 2019 5:59 am

Thermodolia wrote:
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Tumblr already nuked itself by banning porn.

And Pornhub wants to buy it and restore it

Which is bad.
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Postby The Xenopolis Confederation » Sat May 11, 2019 6:01 am

Ifreann wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:And Pornhub wants to buy it and restore it

Which is bad.

How so?
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Postby Thermodolia » Sat May 11, 2019 6:03 am

Ifreann wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:And Pornhub wants to buy it and restore it

Which is bad.

Restoring the NSFW to tumblr is bad? I fail to see how so
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Postby Galloism » Sat May 11, 2019 6:13 am

Thermodolia wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Which is bad.

Restoring the NSFW to tumblr is bad? I fail to see how so

I’m suddenly reminded of the “#toohotfortumblr” meme/hashtag.
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Postby Ifreann » Sat May 11, 2019 6:21 am

The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Which is bad.

How so?

Thermodolia wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Which is bad.

Restoring the NSFW to tumblr is bad? I fail to see how so

It's bad that Pornhub might buy Tumblr because Pornhub is bad. Loads of their content is pirated, which is a big deal for small time sex workers, and apparently the only way to consistently keep their work off Pornhub is to sign up to Pornhub's model network and get verified, and at that point they may as well just be working for Pornhub. They're building themselves a little monopoly, and it's only harder to notice because it isn't just Pornhub. The corporation that owns them owns a bunch of other porn sites.
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Postby The Xenopolis Confederation » Sat May 11, 2019 6:32 am

Ifreann wrote:
The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:How so?

Thermodolia wrote:Restoring the NSFW to tumblr is bad? I fail to see how so

It's bad that Pornhub might buy Tumblr because Pornhub is bad. Loads of their content is pirated, which is a big deal for small time sex workers, and apparently the only way to consistently keep their work off Pornhub is to sign up to Pornhub's model network and get verified, and at that point they may as well just be working for Pornhub. They're building themselves a little monopoly, and it's only harder to notice because it isn't just Pornhub. The corporation that owns them owns a bunch of other porn sites.

Is it the company itself doing the piracy videos or is it just random people uploading it to pornhub? If it's the latter, pornhub is protected by safe harbour protections.
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Postby Ifreann » Sat May 11, 2019 6:45 am

The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:
Ifreann wrote:
It's bad that Pornhub might buy Tumblr because Pornhub is bad. Loads of their content is pirated, which is a big deal for small time sex workers, and apparently the only way to consistently keep their work off Pornhub is to sign up to Pornhub's model network and get verified, and at that point they may as well just be working for Pornhub. They're building themselves a little monopoly, and it's only harder to notice because it isn't just Pornhub. The corporation that owns them owns a bunch of other porn sites.

Is it the company itself doing the piracy videos or is it just random people uploading it to pornhub? If it's the latter, pornhub is protected by safe harbour protections.

I'm not familiar with that term, but from context I can guess what it means. I wasn't suggesting that Pornhub are doing anything strictly illegal, I'm sure they take down content as and when they are made aware that the people who own it don't want it on Pornhub. But that doesn't refund lost income or stop the performer's next video from being uploaded as well or stop that video that was taken down being reuploaded. And until the video is taken down, Pornhub makes money off it, same as every other video.
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Postby The Two Jerseys » Sat May 11, 2019 7:58 am

So are the SJWs caught in a circular loop over this yet?
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The Two Jerseys wrote:So are the SJWs caught in a circular loop over this yet?

…Arizona politicians are the opposite of SJW’s.
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The Two Jerseys wrote:So are the SJWs caught in a circular loop over this yet?

What?
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The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:
The Two Jerseys wrote:So are the SJWs caught in a circular loop over this yet?

What?

I don't know either

Kowani wrote:
The Two Jerseys wrote:So are the SJWs caught in a circular loop over this yet?

…Arizona politicians are the opposite of SJW’s.

No, that would imply they are sane
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Amazing big brain move by Arizona. Don't bother with actual problems, porn is bad!
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The Two Jerseys wrote:So are the SJWs caught in a circular loop over this yet?

What?

SJW: "Porn reinforces toxic masculinity and should be banned."
Politician: "I agree that it should be banned, it encourages immorality."
SJW: "HOW DARE YOU IMPOSE YOUR PRUDISH MORALS ON PEOPLE!"
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Postby Rising Palms » Sat May 11, 2019 8:18 am

Inkopolitia wrote:Amazing big brain move by Arizona. Don't bother with actual problems, porn is bad!


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Postby Ifreann » Sat May 11, 2019 8:27 am

The Two Jerseys wrote:
The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:What?

SJW: "Porn reinforces toxic masculinity and should be banned."
Politician: "I agree that it should be banned, it encourages immorality."
SJW: "HOW DARE YOU IMPOSE YOUR PRUDISH MORALS ON PEOPLE!"

This is what happens when you apply the same political label to people with opposed political views.
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Postby Thermodolia » Sat May 11, 2019 8:42 am

Ifreann wrote:
The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:How so?

Thermodolia wrote:Restoring the NSFW to tumblr is bad? I fail to see how so

It's bad that Pornhub might buy Tumblr because Pornhub is bad. Loads of their content is pirated, which is a big deal for small time sex workers, and apparently the only way to consistently keep their work off Pornhub is to sign up to Pornhub's model network and get verified, and at that point they may as well just be working for Pornhub. They're building themselves a little monopoly, and it's only harder to notice because it isn't just Pornhub. The corporation that owns them owns a bunch of other porn sites.

Pornhub does a lot of good in the world. They are some evil corporation you like to think they are
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Postby Ifreann » Sat May 11, 2019 8:47 am

Thermodolia wrote:
Ifreann wrote:
It's bad that Pornhub might buy Tumblr because Pornhub is bad. Loads of their content is pirated, which is a big deal for small time sex workers, and apparently the only way to consistently keep their work off Pornhub is to sign up to Pornhub's model network and get verified, and at that point they may as well just be working for Pornhub. They're building themselves a little monopoly, and it's only harder to notice because it isn't just Pornhub. The corporation that owns them owns a bunch of other porn sites.

Pornhub does a lot of good in the world. They are some evil corporation you like to think they are

Doing good things doesn't make it okay when they do bad things.
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Ifreann wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Pornhub does a lot of good in the world. They are some evil corporation you like to think they are

Doing good things doesn't make it okay when they do bad things.

If the users upload the pirated videos, Pornhub can't be blamed. The pirated videos should still be fought against by deleting them though
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Costa Fierro wrote:
Page wrote:Also, the vast, vast majority of people who have a choice between porn and having sex choose sex.


Porn is free.

Are you implying that all sex is prostitution? :blink:
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The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:What?

SJW: "Porn reinforces toxic masculinity and should be banned."
Politician: "I agree that it should be banned, it encourages immorality."
SJW: "HOW DARE YOU IMPOSE YOUR PRUDISH MORALS ON PEOPLE!"

Hold yer goshdarned horses, cowboy! I'm an SJW and I can assure ya that we don't think porn should be banned, nor does it have anything to do with toxic masculiniter.
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Postby Genivaria » Sat May 11, 2019 10:08 am

Costa Fierro wrote:
Page wrote:Also, the vast, vast majority of people who have a choice between porn and having sex choose sex.


Porn is free.

So is sex.
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