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Arizona Denounces Pornography as Public Health Crisis

Postby Hatterleigh » Wed May 08, 2019 7:21 pm

https://nypost.com/2019/05/08/arizona-measure-denouncing-porn-as-public-health-crisis-passes-state-senate/

Pornography consumption has been proclaimed a public health crisis in Arizona.

A bill passed in the Arizona Senate on Monday highlights the potential dangers of pornography usage, but stops short of taking further measures to prevent its availability.

“Pornography perpetuates a sexually toxic environment that damages all areas of our society,” the bill states. “Potential detrimental effects on pornography users include toxic sexual behaviors, emotional, mental and medical illnesses and difficulty forming or maintaining intimate relationships.”


What do you guys think of this? A Good thing? A Bad thing? Discuss. Keep it PG-13 please.

I for one think they aren't going far enough, but then again, that's what I say for just about every move anyone makes. Like a lot of things in post industrial society pornography has proven to be addictive and bad for mental health a lot of times. It's not like sex and sexual activities will cease to exist without porn as if such things didn't exist for the last 2.5M years of human existence, so the question of sexual repression being a danger is irrelevant.

Here are some common arguments for porn, and why I don't think they are valid.

"It is impossible for it to be fully banned, people will find it if there is a market for it"
I'm not a capitalist, I don't really support market economies in the first place and the "people will do anything if there's a market for it" is one of my reasons why. We shouldn't live in a society like that in the first place.

"It is infringing upon people's freedoms to ban it"
You're just drawing an arbitrary line in the sand here. You can't just say that porn isn't bad enough to be banned like certain drugs and other illegal acts. Our freedoms are already infringed upon for our greater good.

"If it's not hurting anyone else just let people do it"
Similar to the drugs thing, it is hurting the person using it, and back to point A, in a market economy men in suits find ways to make money morals aside.
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Postby Cekoviu » Wed May 08, 2019 7:24 pm

Following Utah's example, great...
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Postby Galloism » Wed May 08, 2019 7:24 pm

Hatterleigh wrote:"If it's not hurting anyone else just let people do it"
Similar to the drugs thing, it is hurting the person using it

Why is this the state's problem?
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Postby Hatterleigh » Wed May 08, 2019 7:27 pm

Galloism wrote:
Hatterleigh wrote:"If it's not hurting anyone else just let people do it"
Similar to the drugs thing, it is hurting the person using it

Why is this the state's problem?

wdym? Should it be a national decision?
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Postby Cekoviu » Wed May 08, 2019 7:28 pm

Galloism wrote:
Hatterleigh wrote:"If it's not hurting anyone else just let people do it"
Similar to the drugs thing, it is hurting the person using it

Why is this the state's problem?

Seriously. Even if pornography were to unambiguously harm the people consuming it, which is not true, then it would be up to the people and not the state to keep themselves away. Look to US laws on cigarettes for the kind of legislation that would likely be appropriate around pornography.
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Postby Cekoviu » Wed May 08, 2019 7:28 pm

Hatterleigh wrote:
Galloism wrote:Why is this the state's problem?

wdym? Should it be a national decision?

The state = the government.
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Postby Galloism » Wed May 08, 2019 7:28 pm

Hatterleigh wrote:
Galloism wrote:Why is this the state's problem?

wdym? Should it be a national decision?

How is it a federal problem?

I mean this seriously. Let's assume pornography is harmful to the individual (no evidence has found that on the net, but let's go with it).

How is it the problem of the state, and by that, I mean the government?

And while you think about that, I want you to ponder this image:

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Postby Borovan entered the region as he » Wed May 08, 2019 7:30 pm

Porn bad it desensitizes people and make it hard to have sex with person because you need higher stimuli to get a turn on and there's a higher chance you'll turn into a pedohile
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Postby Heloin » Wed May 08, 2019 7:30 pm

Borovan entered the region as he wrote:Porn bad it desensitizes people and make it hard to have sex with person because you need higher stimuli to get a turn on and there's a higher chance you'll turn into a pedohile

What?
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Postby Cekoviu » Wed May 08, 2019 7:34 pm

Borovan entered the region as he wrote:Porn bad

Source?
it desensitizes people and make it hard to have sex with person because you need higher stimuli to get a turn on

Big generalization.
and there's a higher chance you'll turn into a pedohile

Source?
Fun fact: the total insect biomass is estimated to decrease by 2.5% each year. If left unresolved, this could have catastrophic effects on ecosystems around the world.
Torrocca wrote:"Your honor, it was not mein fault! I didn't order the systematic genocide of millions of people, it was the twenty kilograms of pure-cut Bavarian cocaine that did it!"
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Postby Galloism » Wed May 08, 2019 7:34 pm

Cekoviu wrote:
Borovan entered the region as he wrote:Porn bad

Source?
it desensitizes people and make it hard to have sex with person because you need higher stimuli to get a turn on

Big generalization.
and there's a higher chance you'll turn into a pedohile

Source?

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The Parkus Empire: Being serious on NSG is like wearing a suit to a nude beach.
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Postby Exxosia » Wed May 08, 2019 7:35 pm

I would say it is a bad thing because any time the government does something, it encourages the worst aspects of a thing. Banning anything moves it from consensual, above ground actions into a realm of nefariousness and exploitation.

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Postby Heloin » Wed May 08, 2019 7:36 pm

Galloism wrote:
Cekoviu wrote:Source?

Big generalization.

Source?

Posting scans of your ass continues to be prohibited on nationstates.

Is your ass a source or a big generalisation?
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Postby Galloism » Wed May 08, 2019 7:36 pm

Heloin wrote:
Galloism wrote:Posting scans of your ass continues to be prohibited on nationstates.

Is your ass a source or a big generalisation?

Yes.
Venicilian: wow. Jesus hung around with everyone. boys, girls, rich, poor(mostly), sick, healthy, etc. in fact, i bet he even went up to gay people and tried to heal them so they would be straight.
The Parkus Empire: Being serious on NSG is like wearing a suit to a nude beach.
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Postby Cekoviu » Wed May 08, 2019 7:36 pm

Heloin wrote:
Galloism wrote:Posting scans of your ass continues to be prohibited on nationstates.

Is your ass a source or a big generalisation?

Both?
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Postby Kowani » Wed May 08, 2019 7:37 pm

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Borovan entered the region as he wrote:Porn bad it desensitizes people and make it hard to have sex with person because you need higher stimuli to get a turn on and there's a higher chance you'll turn into a pedohile

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Postby LiberNovusAmericae » Wed May 08, 2019 7:37 pm

Truly something the government needs to be concerned about.
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Postby Alanis Star » Wed May 08, 2019 7:39 pm

They should more or less know that at this point, porn is something that is of an outlet to many. Some like it, some don't, but it's an outlet, let's just say.
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Postby Slotted Floppies » Wed May 08, 2019 7:39 pm

Arizona is out here walking backwards up a mountain by rewording morality laws. Yeah good luck with that, your wrong and have a snowflakes Chance in hell of effecting anything.

Meanwhile Denver just decriminalised shrooms.

Be more like Denver Arizona.
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Postby Hatterleigh » Wed May 08, 2019 7:39 pm

Cekoviu wrote:
Galloism wrote:Why is this the state's problem?

Seriously. Even if pornography were to unambiguously harm the people consuming it, which is not true, then it would be up to the people and not the state to keep themselves away. Look to US laws on cigarettes for the kind of legislation that would likely be appropriate around pornography.

Cigarettes should be banned too.
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Postby Galloism » Wed May 08, 2019 7:40 pm

Hatterleigh wrote:
Cekoviu wrote:Seriously. Even if pornography were to unambiguously harm the people consuming it, which is not true, then it would be up to the people and not the state to keep themselves away. Look to US laws on cigarettes for the kind of legislation that would likely be appropriate around pornography.

Cigarettes should be banned too.

I hope we ban McDonalds food with it. If there's anything more unhealthy and offensive than cigarettes, it's McDonalds.
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Postby Hatterleigh » Wed May 08, 2019 7:40 pm

Slotted Floppies wrote:Arizona is out here walking backwards up a mountain by rewording morality laws. Yeah good luck with that, your wrong and have a snowflakes Chance in hell of effecting anything.

Meanwhile Denver just decriminalised shrooms.

Be more like Denver Arizona.

Denver must not be very fun if the people need to give themselves psychosis for a few hours just to be happy.
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Postby Ifreann » Wed May 08, 2019 7:40 pm

Galloism wrote:
Hatterleigh wrote:wdym? Should it be a national decision?

How is it a federal problem?

I mean this seriously. Let's assume pornography is harmful to the individual (no evidence has found that on the net, but let's go with it).

How is it the problem of the state, and by that, I mean the government?

And while you think about that, I want you to ponder this image:

Image

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Postby Hatterleigh » Wed May 08, 2019 7:40 pm

Galloism wrote:
Hatterleigh wrote:Cigarettes should be banned too.

I hope we ban McDonalds food with it. If there's anything more unhealthy and offensive than cigarettes, it's McDonalds.

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Postby Kowani » Wed May 08, 2019 7:41 pm

Galloism wrote:
Hatterleigh wrote:Cigarettes should be banned too.

I hope we ban McDonalds food with it. If there's anything more unhealthy and offensive than cigarettes, it's McDonalds.

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