Should Authoritarian Socialists be Pro Gun

[Petrolheadia]

All workers should be armed. Workers in arms standing together is more of a threat to the capitalists than a single unarmed worker.

I’m very against gun control to the point that automatic weapons should be legal

Yes, it would be nice to have real AKs instead of the shit America gives us.

One word: LOL.

The AK is the gun equivalent of old off-road cars or cheapo old Nokias - it works, it's simple, but it sucks if you want any sort of sophistication.

[Soviet Tankistan]

Yes, it would be nice to have real AKs instead of the shit America gives us.

One word: LOL.

The AK is the gun equivalent of old off-road cars or cheapo old Nokias - it works, it's simple, but it sucks if you want any sort of sophistication.

Sophistication is the enemy of the common man and I love cheap and reliable old cars. AKs are the gun of the worker and complex weapons are for the rulers. Anyone can shoot an AK and they are cheap. It is very well performing and simple. The AK is the ideal gun for socialists, revolutionaries, and even insurgents.

[Kragholm Free States]

I'm not sure if I've gotten around to adding this little tidbit in my nation but here's the quick version. I'm an authoritarian socialist (democratic socialist to be specific) and I am pro-gun. However, my form of authoritarianism is the enshrinement of human rights and and enforcing these rights beyond the government by giving the people the ability to execute those who try to take their rights away. If a neonazi group tries to start, the people will execute them, possibly before the authorities. A congressperson attempts to remove a right from our bill of rights? The rest of congress will execute that person on the spot. We hold our rights sacred, or at least as much as an antireligion nation can hold something sacred, and those who try to curtail them are enemies of the state. This is a right, nay, an obligation to eliminate oppressors within our borders wherever they spawn.

What's stopping me, in your ridiculous system, from just claiming that you're a neo-Nazi and rounding up a gang of my mates to murder you? And then presumably getting away with it, because once you're dead it's not exactly possible to scan your brain for neo-Nazi views.

Your system would legitimise not only every dickhead whose default response to anything they don't like is violence and murder, but even people who just enjoy violence and murder for its own sake.

[Petrolheadia]

One word: LOL.

The AK is the gun equivalent of old off-road cars or cheapo old Nokias - it works, it's simple, but it sucks if you want any sort of sophistication.

Sophistication is the enemy of the common man

It's the enemy of any system too shitty to provide it.

and I love cheap and reliable old cars.

They have their uses, but so does any other stuff.

AKs are the gun of the worker and complex weapons are for the rulers.

They're workers, not technical illiterates.

Anyone can shoot an AK and they are cheap. It is very well performing

It was well-performing. In 1947.

and simple.

At least they got that going for it.

[Petrolheadia]

I'm not sure if I've gotten around to adding this little tidbit in my nation but here's the quick version. I'm an authoritarian socialist (democratic socialist to be specific) and I am pro-gun. However, my form of authoritarianism is the enshrinement of human rights and and enforcing these rights beyond the government by giving the people the ability to execute those who try to take their rights away. If a neonazi group tries to start, the people will execute them, possibly before the authorities. A congressperson attempts to remove a right from our bill of rights? The rest of congress will execute that person on the spot. We hold our rights sacred, or at least as much as an antireligion nation can hold something sacred, and those who try to curtail them are enemies of the state. This is a right, nay, an obligation to eliminate oppressors within our borders wherever they spawn.

What's stopping me, in your ridiculous system, from just claiming that you're a neo-Nazi and rounding up a gang of my mates to murder you? And then presumably getting away with it, because once you're dead it's not exactly possible to scan your brain for neo-Nazi views.

Your system would legitimise not only every dickhead whose default response to anything they don't like is violence and murder, but even people who just enjoy violence and murder for its own sake.

Shoot 'em and let God sort 'em out, I guess?

[Saranidia]

What's stopping me, in your ridiculous system, from just claiming that you're a neo-Nazi and rounding up a gang of my mates to murder you? And then presumably getting away with it, because once you're dead it's not exactly possible to scan your brain for neo-Nazi views.

Your system would legitimise not only every dickhead whose default response to anything they don't like is violence and murder, but even people who just enjoy violence and murder for its own sake.

Shoot 'em and let God sort 'em out, I guess?

So why you might as well just have anarchism?

I personally don't agree that it would legitimise people who "enjoy violence and murder for it's own sake" because someone could kill them for obviously being wrong but it would make political disagreement impossible.

Would I be executed for using the term siren outside of Greek mythology?

Would a former nobleman be executed for using their title even if they are no longer using force or renting out land?

Would I be executed for advocating for rule based on the will of Allah?

and finally: How would you know the answer to any of these questions?

Oh and do you believe in God or are you essentially saying 'shoot them and let no one sort it out ever'?

[Petrolheadia]

Shoot 'em and let God sort 'em out, I guess?

So why you might as well just have anarchism?

I personally don't agree that it would legitimise people who "enjoy violence and murder for it's own sake" because someone could kill them for obviously being wrong but it would make political disagreement impossible.

Would I be executed for using the term siren outside of Greek mythology?

Would a former nobleman be executed for using their title even if they are no longer using force or renting out land?

Would I be executed for advocating for rule based on the will of Allah?

and finally: How would you know the answer to any of these questions?

Oh and do you believe in God or are you essentially saying 'shoot them and let no one sort it out ever'?

I believe in sarcasm, conveying it by obviously not paraphrasing known quotes.

[Saranidia]

So why you might as well just have anarchism?

I personally don't agree that it would legitimise people who "enjoy violence and murder for it's own sake" because someone could kill them for obviously being wrong but it would make political disagreement impossible.

Would I be executed for using the term siren outside of Greek mythology?

Would a former nobleman be executed for using their title even if they are no longer using force or renting out land?

Would I be executed for advocating for rule based on the will of Allah?

and finally: How would you know the answer to any of these questions?

Oh and do you believe in God or are you essentially saying 'shoot them and let no one sort it out ever'?

I believe in sarcasm, conveying it by obviously not paraphrasing known quotes.

What about my questions on what I would be executed for

Would I be executed for using the term siren outside of Greek mythology(about a woman)?

Would a former nobleman be executed for using their title even if they are no longer using force or renting out land? Just say using their title in a letter

Would I be executed for advocating for rule based on the will of Allah?

and finally: How would you know the answer to any of these questions?

[Petrolheadia]

I believe in sarcasm, conveying it by obviously not paraphrasing known quotes.

What about my questions on what I would be executed for

Would I be executed for using the term siren outside of Greek mythology(about a woman)?

Would a former nobleman be executed for using their title even if they are no longer using force or renting out land? Just say using their title in a letter

Would I be executed for advocating for rule based on the will of Allah?

and finally: How would you know the answer to any of these questions?

Fucking automated response, always on when you need to talk to a real person.

[Saranidia]

What about my questions on what I would be executed for

Would I be executed for using the term siren outside of Greek mythology(about a woman)?

Would a former nobleman be executed for using their title even if they are no longer using force or renting out land? Just say using their title in a letter

Would I be executed for advocating for rule based on the will of Allah?

and finally: How would you know the answer to any of these questions?

Fucking automated response, always on when you need to talk to a real person.

Sorry

[Saranidia]

Fucking automated response, always on when you need to talk to a real person.

Sorry

Can you answer my questions now?

[Thermodolia]

All workers should be armed. Workers in arms standing together is more of a threat to the capitalists than a single unarmed worker.

I’m very against gun control to the point that automatic weapons should be legal

But Therm, if the workers are armed they'll overthrow you.

That’s a risk I’m willing to take

[Greater Korean Juche Republic]

Jucheist here. I feel as if the matter of the people being pro-gun resides on the exactness of the stages of a revolution a country is in. In a revolutionary or nationbuilding state, the People should be armed and well-regulated by a strong leader to achieve their own revolution. As Great Leader Comrade Kim Jong Il said in his speech "On some questions in understanding the Juche philosophy",

"Independence is an attribute of man, the social being; it should not be viewed as the development to perfection of a natural, biological attribute of living matter. This is, in essence, an evolutionary viewpoint. Of course, we do not deny evolutionism itself. Science has long established the fact that man is a product of ages of evolution. Man is a product of evolution, but not his independence. Independence is a social product. Independence is an attribute given to man by society, not nature; it is not a natural gift, but has been formed and developed socially and historically."

Thus we can ascertain independence is not scientifically given by birth, but must be achieved by man's own will. That said, the revolutionary masses will obviously need to be armed to overthrow their oppressors and be liberated by the Juche ideology. The revolutionary masses also need to be a well-coordinated leader. Eternal President Comrade Kim Il-Sung proved this during his revolutionary guerrilla campaign against the Japanese.

I firmly believe in the Songun Theory, that the armed forces must be strong and prioritized to give the people the best form of protection they can. Kim Jong-Il developed Songun and Juche further not for his own personal benefit, but to secure the DPRK from the hands of imperialists and mitigate the damage caused by the Arduous March in the 1990s. The Army helped the People farm, they helped the People build, they helped the People mine, carpent, educate, and move forth. Kim Jong-Il wanted the People to be revolutionary and faithful in Songun and die Martyrs and independent rather than crumble to an outside force.

That said, the Army of the People must be kept strong and reliable at all times. The People must be well educated and armed by that logic too. Songun clarifies that the People and Army go hand in hand, as proven by the Arduous March. The Korean Worker's Peasants Red Guard constitutes 6 million of the Korean population, ready to defend the KPA in case of invasion. They are armed and trained by the Army.

The pro-gun faith is different if a populace is a revolting versus if a populace is securing itself and defending against imperialists. All men and women should be armed if they are under threat from invasion, and the DPRK has done a fine job of this.

[Soviet Tankistan]

Jucheist here. I feel as if the matter of the people being pro-gun resides on the exactness of the stages of a revolution a country is in. In a revolutionary or nationbuilding state, the People should be armed and well-regulated by a strong leader to achieve their own revolution. As Great Leader Comrade Kim Jong Il said in his speech "On some questions in understanding the Juche philosophy",

"Independence is an attribute of man, the social being; it should not be viewed as the development to perfection of a natural, biological attribute of living matter. This is, in essence, an evolutionary viewpoint. Of course, we do not deny evolutionism itself. Science has long established the fact that man is a product of ages of evolution. Man is a product of evolution, but not his independence. Independence is a social product. Independence is an attribute given to man by society, not nature; it is not a natural gift, but has been formed and developed socially and historically."

Thus we can ascertain independence is not scientifically given by birth, but must be achieved by man's own will. That said, the revolutionary masses will obviously need to be armed to overthrow their oppressors and be liberated by the Juche ideology. The revolutionary masses also need to be a well-coordinated leader. Eternal President Comrade Kim Il-Sung proved this during his revolutionary guerrilla campaign against the Japanese.

I firmly believe in the Songun Theory, that the armed forces must be strong and prioritized to give the people the best form of protection they can. Kim Jong-Il developed Songun and Juche further not for his own personal benefit, but to secure the DPRK from the hands of imperialists and mitigate the damage caused by the Arduous March in the 1990s. The Army helped the People farm, they helped the People build, they helped the People mine, carpent, educate, and move forth. Kim Jong-Il wanted the People to be revolutionary and faithful in Songun and die Martyrs and independent rather than crumble to an outside force.

That said, the Army of the People must be kept strong and reliable at all times. The People must be well educated and armed by that logic too. Songun clarifies that the People and Army go hand in hand, as proven by the Arduous March. The Korean Worker's Peasants Red Guard constitutes 6 million of the Korean population, ready to defend the KPA in case of invasion. They are armed and trained by the Army.

The pro-gun faith is different if a populace is a revolting versus if a populace is securing itself and defending against imperialists. All men and women should be armed if they are under threat from invasion, and the DPRK has done a fine job of this.

Juche is overwhelming stupid and I hate these types. They aren’t even left wing or socialist, just fascists in disguise. I honestly wouldn’t mind if the Americans got rid of North Korea sympathizers. Fuck the DPRK, a tarnish to Leninism’s legacy.

[Thermodolia]

Jucheist here. I feel as if the matter of the people being pro-gun resides on the exactness of the stages of a revolution a country is in. In a revolutionary or nationbuilding state, the People should be armed and well-regulated by a strong leader to achieve their own revolution. As Great Leader Comrade Kim Jong Il said in his speech "On some questions in understanding the Juche philosophy",

"Independence is an attribute of man, the social being; it should not be viewed as the development to perfection of a natural, biological attribute of living matter. This is, in essence, an evolutionary viewpoint. Of course, we do not deny evolutionism itself. Science has long established the fact that man is a product of ages of evolution. Man is a product of evolution, but not his independence. Independence is a social product. Independence is an attribute given to man by society, not nature; it is not a natural gift, but has been formed and developed socially and historically."

Thus we can ascertain independence is not scientifically given by birth, but must be achieved by man's own will. That said, the revolutionary masses will obviously need to be armed to overthrow their oppressors and be liberated by the Juche ideology. The revolutionary masses also need to be a well-coordinated leader. Eternal President Comrade Kim Il-Sung proved this during his revolutionary guerrilla campaign against the Japanese.

I firmly believe in the Songun Theory, that the armed forces must be strong and prioritized to give the people the best form of protection they can. Kim Jong-Il developed Songun and Juche further not for his own personal benefit, but to secure the DPRK from the hands of imperialists and mitigate the damage caused by the Arduous March in the 1990s. The Army helped the People farm, they helped the People build, they helped the People mine, carpent, educate, and move forth. Kim Jong-Il wanted the People to be revolutionary and faithful in Songun and die Martyrs and independent rather than crumble to an outside force.

That said, the Army of the People must be kept strong and reliable at all times. The People must be well educated and armed by that logic too. Songun clarifies that the People and Army go hand in hand, as proven by the Arduous March. The Korean Worker's Peasants Red Guard constitutes 6 million of the Korean population, ready to defend the KPA in case of invasion. They are armed and trained by the Army.

The pro-gun faith is different if a populace is a revolting versus if a populace is securing itself and defending against imperialists. All men and women should be armed if they are under threat from invasion, and the DPRK has done a fine job of this.

Juche is overwhelming stupid and I hate these types. They aren’t even left wing or socialist, just fascists in disguise. I honestly wouldn’t mind if the Americans got rid of North Korea sympathizers. Fuck the DPRK, a tarnish to Leninism’s legacy.

At this point the DPRK is a fucking monarchy

[Soviet Tankistan]

Juche is overwhelming stupid and I hate these types. They aren’t even left wing or socialist, just fascists in disguise. I honestly wouldn’t mind if the Americans got rid of North Korea sympathizers. Fuck the DPRK, a tarnish to Leninism’s legacy.

At this point the DPRK is a fucking monarchy

Yes. Russia should just invade them and get this over with. It’s painful at this point.

[Russoslava]

As a Capitalist who loves Freedom. This post concerns me.

[Shanhwa]

That would be great to watch.

You won’t be seeing it ever. Socialists and those closer to them are better at winning civil wars and revolutions.

All of the civil wars involving communist and socialist factions have, if at all been won by them, been won because they got extensive external support from other communist powers.

Vietnam, China, North Korea, Cambodia (though they stopped being apart of the main bloc afterwards), etc.

All were backed by either Communist China or the Soviets, save for the original two “socialist” revolutions in Russia (due to massive support by peasantry) and France (massive popular support and overall instability).

[Mushet]

Own? Of course they do.

Allow? That would be a threat to their power.

[Asherahan]

I am not anti gun.

I am just Anti Semi Auio or Fully Auto anything not a pistol.

You want bolt actions? Sure have at them. Pump Shotguns? Have at them. Semi Auto Pistols with max magazine of 20? Have at them.

Semi auto 22? No fuck you. To gulag you go.

[Mushet]

I am not anti gun.

I am just Anti Semi Auio or Fully Auto anything not a pistol.

You want bolt actions? Sure have at them. Pump Shotguns? Have at them. Semi Auto Pistols with max magazine of 20? Have at them.

Semi auto 22? No fuck you. To gulag you go.

So you just want the kind of gun that is used in most murders?

[Asherahan]

I am not anti gun.

I am just Anti Semi Auio or Fully Auto anything not a pistol.

You want bolt actions? Sure have at them. Pump Shotguns? Have at them. Semi Auto Pistols with max magazine of 20? Have at them.

Semi auto 22? No fuck you. To gulag you go.

So you just want the kind of gun that is used in most murders?

This isn't about protecting the average citizen but keeping the balance of firepower in favour of the State Forces.

[Saranidia]

I am not anti gun.

I am just Anti Semi Auio or Fully Auto anything not a pistol.

You want bolt actions? Sure have at them. Pump Shotguns? Have at them. Semi Auto Pistols with max magazine of 20? Have at them.

Semi auto 22? No fuck you. To gulag you go.

So you just want the kind of gun that is used in most murders?

Which kind is used in most murders?

[Icelandic Military Junta]

Yes

Imagine if the Soviet Union had American gun-laws? They could have beaten the Nazis before they even reached Kiev. Then the people would wake up and realize "Wait, I have guns" and then finally destroy Authoritarian """"""""Socialism""""""""

[Thermodolia]

I am not anti gun.

I am just Anti Semi Auio or Fully Auto anything not a pistol.

You want bolt actions? Sure have at them. Pump Shotguns? Have at them. Semi Auto Pistols with max magazine of 20? Have at them.

Semi auto 22? No fuck you. To gulag you go.

Nah. The worker should be allowed to own any weapon necessary to defend themselves from the capitalist class. Full auto included.