What Does Your Vote Mean to You?

[LiberNovusAmericae]

Nothing really. I'd sell it if I could.

That just shows how shitty our political system currently is.

[Conserative Morality]

Culture and institutional norms matter. In a functioning democracy, politicians and policymakers adjust their behavior based on their margin of victory, rather than pulling up the proscription lists after winning at 50.1% of the vote.

Hence why I said elections should be decided this way only if polling shows a margin of victory greater than 20%.

Which polls? Like I said, an election is just a poll; there's a reason that it's called "going to the polls".

[United Muscovite Nations]

Hence why I said elections should be decided this way only if polling shows a margin of victory greater than 20%.

Which polls? Like I said, an election is just a poll; there's a reason that it's called "going to the polls".

Credible polls, they're usually not far enough off to warrant total distrust of them.

[Soviet Tankistan]

Nothing really. I'd sell it if I could.

That just shows how shitty our political system currently is.

Yes, capitalist culture and voter apathy under this broken ‘democracy’ has gone too far.

[LiberNovusAmericae]

That just shows how shitty our political system currently is.

Yes, capitalist culture and voter apathy under this broken ‘democracy’ has gone too far.

Do not use me to promote Communism. I'm sure voter apathy was even worse under one-party dictatorships like the Soviet Union, where every election was a sham.

[Conserative Morality]

Which polls? Like I said, an election is just a poll; there's a reason that it's called "going to the polls".

Credible polls, they're usually not far enough off to warrant total distrust of them.

At the point where you're making certain polls regulated and official for use, though, you're just creating an election again.

[United Muscovite Nations]

Credible polls, they're usually not far enough off to warrant total distrust of them.

At the point where you're making certain polls regulated and official for use, though, you're just creating an election again.

True, but that would be much cheaper in many cases than having an election across the entire state.

[The Holy Sun]

Well I can't vote yet because I am too young so my vote is meaningless

[San Lumen]

Culture and institutional norms matter. In a functioning democracy, politicians and policymakers adjust their behavior based on their margin of victory, rather than pulling up the proscription lists after winning at 50.1% of the vote.

Hence why I said elections should be decided this way only if polling shows a margin of victory greater than 20%.

And polling can be wrong. Your method is unfair, undemocratic and amounts to disenfranchisement.

[United Muscovite Nations]

Hence why I said elections should be decided this way only if polling shows a margin of victory greater than 20%.

And polling can be wrong. Your method is unfair, undemocratic and amounts to disenfranchisement.

Let the state conduct the polling then.

[Conserative Morality]

And polling can be wrong. Your method is unfair, undemocratic and amounts to disenfranchisement.

Let the state conduct the polling then.

They can do it at set places as well, and hire volunteers to do it to save money.

[United Muscovite Nations]

Let the state conduct the polling then.

They can do it at set places as well, and hire volunteers to do it to save money.

Yes, but there wouldn't be a need to do it all over the state or with millions of people voting.

[Conserative Morality]

They can do it at set places as well, and hire volunteers to do it to save money.

Yes, but there wouldn't be a need to do it all over the state or with millions of people voting.

Well of course there would be a need to do it all over the state; geographical variation is a major concern in polling by reputable companies. And if people come in to have their opinion registered, are you going to turn them away? You may need several for each area!

[Soviet Tankistan]

Yes, capitalist culture and voter apathy under this broken ‘democracy’ has gone too far.

Do not use me to promote Communism. I'm sure voter apathy was even worse under one-party dictatorships like the Soviet Union, where every election was a sham.

I’m not promoting communism or a dictatorship, both of which cannot exist together anyways.

[US-SSR]

If you don't vote, you can't complain. I vote so I can complain. Viz: The One Percent buys and sells all the politicians, cops and judges so they make, enforce and interpret all the laws. Doesn't mean you can't get anything you want; just that anything you get is something The One Percent wants too.

[Omonros]

For me, my vote is my only say in a system where I actually only have the illusion of authority or say. I do not at all agree with how things are dealt with here, but at least it's something.

[Soviet Tankistan]

If you don't vote, you can't complain. I vote so I can complain. Viz: The One Percent buys and sells all the politicians, cops and judges so they make, enforce and interpret all the laws. Doesn't mean you can't get anything you want; just that anything you get is something The One Percent wants too.

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Are you a socialist?

[US-SSR]

If you don't vote, you can't complain. I vote so I can complain. Viz: The One Percent buys and sells all the politicians, cops and judges so they make, enforce and interpret all the laws. Doesn't mean you can't get anything you want; just that anything you get is something The One Percent wants too.

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Are you a socialist?

Damn straight. And not some weaselly "democratic socialist" either. A One Big Union Wobbly.

[San Lumen]

They can do it at set places as well, and hire volunteers to do it to save money.

Yes, but there wouldn't be a need to do it all over the state or with millions of people voting.

If we are going to all this effort to have polls why not just have the darn election and if people vote overwhelmingly one way then so be it as that’s who they wanted.

Your proposal is what an election is. It’s the only poll that matters

[United Muscovite Nations]

Yes, but there wouldn't be a need to do it all over the state or with millions of people voting.

If we are going to all this effort to have polls why not just have the darn election and if people vote overwhelmingly one way then so be it as that’s who they wanted.

Your proposal is what an election is. It’s the only poll that matters

Because it would be much cheaper to poll a smaller number of people. You could get the same result polling only a few thousands as opposed to millions.

[Alouite]

Is your vote an obligation you have to society to make the best choice for who is in charge?

Yes, it is a social obligation to use my common sense to my best ability in discerning who ought to serve as a representative in the social hierarchy.

Is your vote an exercise of your own power?

Yes, it is an exercise of my popular sovereignty and recognition of my constitutional right to the elective franchise.

Is your vote a way of making sure the lesser evil wins?

It can be. Ideally there would be a candidate that is not evil, and I often find that people over-hype the negative characteristics of political figures. Many of them have interests other than just serving their constituents, true. However, most are not members of some shadowy cabal planning to turn the frogs gay and enslave our children.

Is your vote something that a candidate must earn?

Yes, I don't vote for people just because, I only cast a vote that I can be confident in committing to.

[San Lumen]

If we are going to all this effort to have polls why not just have the darn election and if people vote overwhelmingly one way then so be it as that’s who they wanted.

Your proposal is what an election is. It’s the only poll that matters

Because it would be much cheaper to poll a smaller number of people. You could get the same result polling only a few thousands as opposed to millions.

Why not just simply have the election?

In some places like Chicago or Minneapolis the election is non partisan.

What your saying is we ought to do away with democracy because its costs to much? That's is by far one of the dumbest arguments I've ever heard.

[Salus Maior]

Nothing, really.

[United Muscovite Nations]

Because it would be much cheaper to poll a smaller number of people. You could get the same result polling only a few thousands as opposed to millions.

Why not just simply have the election?

In some places like Chicago or Minneapolis the election is non partisan.

What your saying is we ought to do anyway with democracy because its costs to much? That's is by far one of the dumbest arguments I've ever heard.

It's still democratic, the people still get the government they want, you're just saving everyone a lot of time and money.

[The Free Joy State]

Why not just simply have the election?

In some places like Chicago or Minneapolis the election is non partisan.

What your saying is we ought to do anyway with democracy because its costs to much? That's is by far one of the dumbest arguments I've ever heard.

It's still democratic, the people still get the government they want, you're just saving everyone a lot of time and money.

Polls are vastly impacted by the sample you take, and can be biased by the question asked.

If a pollster wanted to ensure that a city with a majority Democrat population got a Republican, they could just go to areas that got the highest Republican turnout last election, pick 2000 voters from those districts, ask questions in a specific way and fix the ballot.

That's why democratic elections are the only representative method.

EDIT: Areas are not homogenous, of course. Democrats would be represented in the sample size. But, if pollsters pick their population (rather than randomise), it would likely alter the result quite significantly.