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Postby LiberNovusAmericae » Thu May 09, 2019 12:18 pm

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Nova Cyberia wrote:They shot up a school and killed 7 people, so I'd say my spite is pretty justified.

Did you read the thread title snd article? 1 dead, 7 injured.

Do you go about calling suspected Islamic terrorists "sand niggers" out of spite too? Or using racial slurs to refer to suspects in general?

I doubt it because he didn't say any slurs this time around.
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Postby Paddy O Fernature » Thu May 09, 2019 12:19 pm

LiberNovusAmericae wrote:
Gormwood wrote:Did you read the thread title snd article? 1 dead, 7 injured.

Do you go about calling suspected Islamic terrorists "sand niggers" out of spite too? Or using racial slurs to refer to suspects in general?

I doubt it because he didn't say any slurs this time around.


Indeed.

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Postby Gormwood » Thu May 09, 2019 12:20 pm

Paddy O Fernature wrote:
LiberNovusAmericae wrote:
I doubt it because he didn't say any slurs this time around.


Indeed.

So it's acceptable or even encouraged to misgender trans suspects. Wow.
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Postby LiberNovusAmericae » Thu May 09, 2019 12:22 pm

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Paddy O Fernature wrote:
Indeed.

So it's acceptable or even encouraged to misgender trans suspects. Wow.

Them being a minority should give them no special privileges.
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Postby Nova Cyberia » Thu May 09, 2019 12:22 pm

Gormwood wrote:
Paddy O Fernature wrote:
Indeed.

So it's acceptable or even encouraged to misgender trans suspects. Wow.

When they shot up a school?

Kind of.

I mean, or you could just call them by their legal names. Apparently that pisses them off too.
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Postby Paddy O Fernature » Thu May 09, 2019 12:24 pm

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Paddy O Fernature wrote:
Indeed.

So it's acceptable or even encouraged to misgender trans suspects. Wow.


You really should stop putting words in peoples mouths Gauth, it's highly unbecoming of you. It's also makes it look like you don't have a logical point to debate from as you apparently have to make stuff up to try and prove whatever it is you are trying to say.

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Postby Gormwood » Thu May 09, 2019 12:27 pm

Paddy O Fernature wrote:
Gormwood wrote:So it's acceptable or even encouraged to misgender trans suspects. Wow.


You really should stop putting words in peoples mouths Gauth, it's highly unbecoming of you. It's also makes it look like you don't have a logical point to debate from as you apparently have to make stuff up to try and prove whatever it is you are trying to say.

You find nothing wrong with misgendering the shooters so it stands to follow you condone the misgendering of trans suspects in general.
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Postby Nova Cyberia » Thu May 09, 2019 12:35 pm

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You really should stop putting words in peoples mouths Gauth, it's highly unbecoming of you. It's also makes it look like you don't have a logical point to debate from as you apparently have to make stuff up to try and prove whatever it is you are trying to say.

You find nothing wrong with misgendering the shooters so it stands to follow you condone the misgendering of trans suspects in general.

They shot up a school. We know they did this. So I'm not going to do what they want. I'm not going to say what they want. They're human debris. They're garbage. They killed an innocent person and almost killed 7 others. As far as I'm concerned the only right they have is to sit in cold, dark cells for the remainder of their lives.

That's what we're saying.
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Postby Grinning Dragon » Thu May 09, 2019 12:36 pm

Gormwood wrote:
Paddy O Fernature wrote:
You really should stop putting words in peoples mouths Gauth, it's highly unbecoming of you. It's also makes it look like you don't have a logical point to debate from as you apparently have to make stuff up to try and prove whatever it is you are trying to say.

You find nothing wrong with misgendering the shooters so it stands to follow you condone the misgendering of trans suspects in general.


IMO, I would think in a trial such as this, the court would refer to the defendant's birth sex not what the defendant demands of the court in how they should be addressed.
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Postby Paddy O Fernature » Thu May 09, 2019 12:56 pm

Grinning Dragon wrote:
Gormwood wrote:You find nothing wrong with misgendering the shooters so it stands to follow you condone the misgendering of trans suspects in general.


IMO, I would think in a trial such as this, the court would refer to the defendant's birth sex not what the defendant demands of the court in how they should be addressed.


Now now GD, that makes too much logical sense for use around these parts.

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Postby Proctopeo » Thu May 09, 2019 1:07 pm

Honestly, after being directly involved in the death of one and the injuring of 7 more, that nicety shouldn't have to be extended. They didn't extend an even more basic nicety - not killing people - so one as comparatively minor as that shouldn't be of anyone's concern.
Besides, it's kinda sad how they're trying to find any sort of moral standing by complaining about this.
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Postby Gormwood » Thu May 09, 2019 1:19 pm

The shooters cited transphobic bullying as a motive and here we have posters calling for validating their grievance further.
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Postby Scomagia » Thu May 09, 2019 1:26 pm

Gormwood wrote:The shooters cited transphobic bullying as a motive and here we have posters calling for validating their grievance further.

Their alleged grievance. It's entirely reasonable to assume they may be lying.
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Postby Grinning Dragon » Thu May 09, 2019 1:26 pm

Gormwood wrote:The shooters cited transphobic bullying as a motive and here we have posters calling for validating their grievance further.

They can cite all they want, still does not warrant their actions nor their demands nor is it worthy of any sympathy.
The actions they took is in no way justified.
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Postby Paddy O Fernature » Thu May 09, 2019 1:29 pm

Gormwood wrote:The shooters cited transphobic bullying as a motive and here we have posters calling for validating their grievance further.


So, because they were allegedly bullied, it apparently justifies their actions of shooting up a school full of children?

That's a might shitty position to be taking Gauth, even for you.
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Postby Gormwood » Thu May 09, 2019 1:31 pm

Paddy O Fernature wrote:
Gormwood wrote:The shooters cited transphobic bullying as a motive and here we have posters calling for validating their grievance further.


So, because they were allegedly bullied, it apparently justifies their actions of shooting up a school full of children?

That's a might shitty position to be taken Gauth, even for you.

That's your baity Bizarro World take. In the real world, I said we shouldn't validate their claim by deliberately misgendering them and possibly encouraging other abused transgender kids to see their point of view and act accordingly.
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Postby Grinning Dragon » Thu May 09, 2019 1:45 pm

Gormwood wrote:
Paddy O Fernature wrote:
So, because they were allegedly bullied, it apparently justifies their actions of shooting up a school full of children?

That's a might shitty position to be taken Gauth, even for you.

That's your Bizarro World take. In the real world, I said we shouldn't validate their claim by deliberately misgendering them and possibly encouraging other abused transgender kids to see their point of view and act accordingly.


So perception is reality now? You do not validate ones twisted sense of grievance because of feelings. What's that saying again, "fuck their feelings" deal with the real world like a measured adult.
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Postby Gormwood » Thu May 09, 2019 1:49 pm

Grinning Dragon wrote:
Gormwood wrote:That's your Bizarro World take. In the real world, I said we shouldn't validate their claim by deliberately misgendering them and possibly encouraging other abused transgender kids to see their point of view and act accordingly.


So perception is reality now? You do not validate ones twisted sense of grievance because of feelings. What's that saying again, "fuck their feelings" deal with the real world like a measured adult.

So what if the misgendering encourages further transphobic abuse, right?
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Postby Vassenor » Thu May 09, 2019 1:55 pm

So we're doing the whole "we can't do X because that's giving them what they want" again?
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Postby Gormwood » Thu May 09, 2019 1:56 pm

Vassenor wrote:So we're doing the whole "we can't do X because that's giving them what they want" again?

That's only bad when talking about gun control, silly.
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Postby Luminesa » Thu May 09, 2019 2:06 pm

Gormwood wrote:
Grinning Dragon wrote:
So perception is reality now? You do not validate ones twisted sense of grievance because of feelings. What's that saying again, "fuck their feelings" deal with the real world like a measured adult.

So what if the misgendering encourages further transphobic abuse, right?

I mean this whole thing is basically saying that if someone doesn’t stop misgendering, more trans kids are going to snap and shoot-up schools. Way to label transgender kids as unstable, trigger-happy maniacs Gauth. Literally nobody here actually believes you care about trans kids, who are some of the most vulnerable teenagers and who are, statistically, more of a threat to themselves than to other people.
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Postby Luminesa » Thu May 09, 2019 2:08 pm

Vassenor wrote:So we're doing the whole "we can't do X because that's giving them what they want" again?

You of all people shouldn’t be siding with someone who says that trans kids are likely to shoot-up a school if someone misgenders them.
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Postby Proctopeo » Thu May 09, 2019 2:18 pm

Grinning Dragon wrote:
Gormwood wrote:The shooters cited transphobic bullying as a motive and here we have posters calling for validating their grievance further.

They can cite all they want, still does not warrant their actions nor their demands nor is it worthy of any sympathy.
The actions they took is in no way justified.

Couldn't have said it better myself.

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Gormwood wrote:The shooters cited transphobic bullying as a motive and here we have posters calling for validating their grievance further.


So, because they were allegedly bullied, it apparently justifies their actions of shooting up a school full of children?

That's a might shitty position to be taking Gauth, even for you.

Yeah it's an incredibly fucked stance to take.

To put it in a different perspective, though it will invariably fall in deaf ears, the emotional duress experienced by the shooters by not being referred to by the proper names and pronouns is minimal in comparison to what the family of the dead, and the families of the injured, are experiencing right now. The correct option is to ignore their complaints. They're unimportant.
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Postby Esternial » Thu May 09, 2019 2:27 pm

Paddy O Fernature wrote:
Gormwood wrote:The shooters cited transphobic bullying as a motive and here we have posters calling for validating their grievance further.


So, because they were allegedly bullied, it apparently justifies their actions of shooting up a school full of children?

That's a might shitty position to be taking Gauth, even for you.

So basically you're claiming that someone saying there's no point in deliberately mis-gendering people out of spite = saying their violence was justified.

Come on man.
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Postby Loben The 2nd » Thu May 09, 2019 2:53 pm

Mass shootings; now justified depending on the perpetrator.

What a time to be alive.

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