Hammer Britannia wrote:Where's the option to make Istanbul Constantinople?
No, you can't go back to Constantinople
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by Aclion » Tue Jun 11, 2019 1:53 pm
Hammer Britannia wrote:Where's the option to make Istanbul Constantinople?
by North German Realm » Tue Jun 11, 2019 1:57 pm
First American Empire wrote:North German Realm wrote:I'm no fan of Atatürk, to be honest (I maintain that the Allies should have forced the treaty on Turkey, especially after they fucking genocided the Greek after the war ended), but he was too soft on Islam. If he'd done his job right, Turkey at the very least would have a Muslim population in hundreds at best.
So you're angry that he committed genocide against the Greeks, and that he didn't commit genocide against Muslims?
5 Nov, 2020
Die Morgenpost: "We will reconsider our relationship with Poland" Reichskanzler Lagenmauer says after Polish president protested North German ultimatum that made them restore reproductive freedom. | European Society votes not to persecute Hungary for atrocities committed against Serbs, "Giving a rogue state leave to commit genocide as it sees fit." North German delegate bemoans. | Negotiations still underway in Rome, delegates arguing over the extent of indemnities Turkey might be made to pay, lawful status of Turkish collaborators during occupation of Azerbaijan, Cyprus, Syria.
by El-Amin Caliphate » Tue Jun 11, 2019 1:58 pm
https://americanvision.org/948/theonomy-vs-theocracy/ wrote:God’s law cannot govern a nation where God’s law does not rule in the hearts of the people
Plaetopia wrote:Partly Free / Hybrid regime (score 4-6) El-Amin Caliphate (5.33)
by El-Amin Caliphate » Tue Jun 11, 2019 2:06 pm
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:Who's the best Islamist?
https://americanvision.org/948/theonomy-vs-theocracy/ wrote:God’s law cannot govern a nation where God’s law does not rule in the hearts of the people
Plaetopia wrote:Partly Free / Hybrid regime (score 4-6) El-Amin Caliphate (5.33)
by Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum » Tue Jun 11, 2019 3:19 pm
Hammer Britannia wrote:Where's the option to make Istanbul Constantinople?
by Baltenstein » Wed Jun 12, 2019 5:00 am
by Nea Byzantia » Wed Jun 12, 2019 7:21 am
by Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum » Sat Jun 22, 2019 10:15 am
by Vistulange » Sat Jun 22, 2019 5:31 pm
North German Realm wrote:First American Empire wrote:
So you're angry that he committed genocide against the Greeks, and that he didn't commit genocide against Muslims?
Oh, don't get me wrong, I'm angry that he committed genocide against Greeks, Armenians, and various other ethnicities that the territory his country occupies rightfully owned. Hell, I'm angry that he wasn't executed by the Allies and Turkey as a state wasn't abolished back in the 1920s., But I am also angry that he didn't complete his deislamification by neutralizing the clergy and reeducating the country into abandoning Islam altogether. Murder of Muslims would not be necessary when the country's total population was less than 15 million. He could have done what he was supposed to, but he eased the correct policies he was implementing, and let Turkey become the mess we see today.
Rojava Free State wrote:I will pray for your life now that you admitted to voting against erdogan's interests and still live in the nightmare turkey is becoming
by Vistulange » Sun Jun 23, 2019 10:08 am
by An Alan Smithee Nation » Sun Jun 23, 2019 11:15 am
Vistulange wrote:Well.
I mean, I expected Ekrem İmamoğlu to win, but...uh...not by a margin of ~725,000 votes! Woo!
It's a sunny time for Istanbul, now.
by Hurdergaryp » Sun Jun 23, 2019 11:57 am
by An Alan Smithee Nation » Sun Jun 23, 2019 12:50 pm
by Gormwood » Sun Jun 23, 2019 12:58 pm
His opponent, ex-PM Binali Yildirim, has conceded. President Recep Tayyip Erdogan congratulated the winner.
"I congratulate Ekrem Imamoglu who has won the election based on preliminary results," he tweeted.
by Nakena » Sun Jun 23, 2019 12:59 pm
Gormwood wrote:An Alan Smithee Nation wrote:
Third time will be a charm.
Istanbul mayoral re-run: Erdogan's ruling AKP lose againHis opponent, ex-PM Binali Yildirim, has conceded. President Recep Tayyip Erdogan congratulated the winner.
"I congratulate Ekrem Imamoglu who has won the election based on preliminary results," he tweeted.
Reggie congratulated him so he'll try something else instead.
by Hurdergaryp » Sun Jun 23, 2019 1:00 pm
by Gormwood » Sun Jun 23, 2019 1:01 pm
Nakena wrote:Gormwood wrote:Istanbul mayoral re-run: Erdogan's ruling AKP lose again
Reggie congratulated him so he'll try something else instead.
He has no choice but to concede that defeat but he will be mad.
by North German Realm » Sun Jun 23, 2019 1:02 pm
Vistulange wrote:Well.
I mean, I expected Ekrem İmamoğlu to win, but...uh...not by a margin of ~725,000 votes! Woo!
It's a sunny time for Istanbul, now.
5 Nov, 2020
Die Morgenpost: "We will reconsider our relationship with Poland" Reichskanzler Lagenmauer says after Polish president protested North German ultimatum that made them restore reproductive freedom. | European Society votes not to persecute Hungary for atrocities committed against Serbs, "Giving a rogue state leave to commit genocide as it sees fit." North German delegate bemoans. | Negotiations still underway in Rome, delegates arguing over the extent of indemnities Turkey might be made to pay, lawful status of Turkish collaborators during occupation of Azerbaijan, Cyprus, Syria.
by Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum » Sun Jun 23, 2019 1:05 pm
by Vistulange » Sun Jun 23, 2019 2:16 pm
North German Realm wrote:Vistulange wrote:Well.
I mean, I expected Ekrem İmamoğlu to win, but...uh...not by a margin of ~725,000 votes! Woo!
It's a sunny time for Istanbul, now.
I'm not going to lie, I half expected him to go "they cheated" and call for another re-election. Guess he knows when he's beat. This time. Here's hoping Istanbul is the beginning of the weakening of Erdogan's grip on Turkey.Hurdergaryp wrote:And in a way it still is, for Istanbul is Turkish for Constantinople.
Wait I thought that was Konstantaniyye.
by Vassenor » Sun Jun 23, 2019 3:12 pm
by Gormwood » Sun Jun 23, 2019 3:27 pm
Vassenor wrote:So when can we expect the next rerun?
by Rothbardian Paradise » Sun Jun 23, 2019 4:00 pm
by San Lumen » Sun Jun 23, 2019 4:01 pm
Rothbardian Paradise wrote:Ergodan drove opposition turnout and made himself look weak. An idiot as always. I'm sure he tried to cheat this one too.
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